2023-24 Training Camp Thread

[RWJC]

1 minute ago, steviewonder20 said:

Just came from training camp in Victoria. Saw Hughes, Miller, Boeser, Garland, DeSmith, Suter, Podz, Silov, etc. I did not see Petey. He might have been at the other end (I was near the goalie). Any one else attend camp in Victoria and see Petey there?

So you can see after all?!?

faker. 
 

EP40 is out with second squad 

[Jess]

Just now, Frozen Water Walker said:

Good points, I wonder if Tocc wants to save the Hughes Hronek option as the first unit power play.

 

I honestly think Hughes and Hronek could be lethal on PP1. Not seen too often anymore, but I think the two D system should be experimented with more again, especially when you have a passer-shooter combo like Hughes and Hronek. Get Hughes on the right side so Hronek can wire the one-timers.

[steviewonder20]

2 minutes ago, RWJC said:

So you can see after all?!?

faker. 
 

EP40 is out with second squad 

AI is so good that I’m no longer blind. Would have loved to see Petey on the ice today. Boy, seeing Huggy next to Miller is amusing, as Huggy looks so small.

[RWMc1]

1 hour ago, tas said:

they explained it all ad nauseum at the time. just because you didn't like the answer doesn't mean there's a different one out there. 

Boudreau said at the end of the previous season that he could play with more structure. The transition to offence was better than Green but the transition back to defence is where the issues have been for a while. Tocchet seems to be addressing these issues and Foote and Gonchar-pull bring a wealth of experience in that regard.

 

I think that Boudreau was a good coach but he was an even better person. I think that's why it was blown way out of proportion by the media. Any mid season firing usually follows a pattern. First the coach gets a warning shot across the bow. If the results don't follow, then a new coach has to be considered before the actual firing. Some teams temporarily replace the coach with the assistant coach. I don't think that was an option for us so we approached Tocchet et al. The media are the ones that got a hold of the info and rubbed it in Boudreau's face.   

 

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2023 by RWMc1

[DeNiro]

11 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

 

Why did I read this as Sutter and Granlund....

 

 

[DeNiro]

1 hour ago, Honky Cat said:

Hughes and Hronek are both PMD's, and each player can carry a pairing, that's why it's unlikely you'll see them as a regular pairing.

 

If the Canucks are down a goal,late in the game. I could se RT utilizing them as a pairing.

Hronek is more than a puck mover. His play in his own zone is apparently quite good
 

We also need a pairing that can shut things down in a tight game.

 

Cole and Soucy were a pair on one of the better defensive teams in the league. 

[Rip The Mesh]

Typical training camp antics and experiments.. Impressive. This is a pretty smart board to have gotten so many of the combos bang on...

 

 

 

[RWJC]

Allvin making a trade call right now.

Johnson making Abby roster moves.

Colliton farting in my general direction. 
 

[Rick_theRyper]

Can't wait for hockey!! 

[Outsiders]

3 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Allvin making a trade call right now.

Johnson making Abby roster moves.

Colliton farting in my general direction. 
 

Can you confirm if a 3rd round pick is involved?

[RWJC]

6 minutes ago, Outsiders said:

Can you confirm if a 3rd round pick is involved?

No but I did hear Raymond and Ballard mentioned. Sounds like a package deal on its way in/out. 
 

edit…something now about Babcock coming on in an advisory position 

 

 

Higgins just joined the group.

Everybody scrolling Sportsnet app, hah

Edited September 22, 2023 by RWJC

[N4ZZY]

25 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

 

I honestly think Hughes and Hronek could be lethal on PP1. Not seen too often anymore, but I think the two D system should be experimented with more again, especially when you have a passer-shooter combo like Hughes and Hronek. Get Hughes on the right side so Hronek can wire the one-timers.

I think Tocchet said he wasn’t a fan of Hughes playing his off side. But the Hughes Hronek pairing could work. Hughes is a natural lefty while Hronek is a natural righty. 

[Outsiders]

2 minutes ago, RWJC said:

No but I did hear Raymond and Ballard mentioned. Sounds like a package deal on its way in/out. 

Wow, huge if true. Although we will probably have to upgrade to a 2nd to facilitate the trade.

[Rip The Mesh]

35 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

 

Why did I read this as Sutter and Granlund....

 

 

Maybe getting over a rough night? ... Kidding. Your guess is as good if not better then mine

[Frozen Water Walker]

25 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

 

I honestly think Hughes and Hronek could be lethal on PP1. Not seen too often anymore, but I think the two D system should be experimented with more again, especially when you have a passer-shooter combo like Hughes and Hronek. Get Hughes on the right side so Hronek can wire the one-timers.

That is what I really want to see, add those elite forwards to the group and they should have a top tier PP

[GrammaInTheTub]

Does anyone happen to have tickets to Saturday that they’re unable to use and are willing to part with for fair value? At the session today and tomorrow’s scrimmage is all sold out. 

[Rusty Shackleford]

1 hour ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

 

How has Suter looked? 

 

They threw Bains on that line today. That would not be a fun line to play against if Suter has some jam to his game too.

[Snoop Hogg]

34 minutes ago, RWJC said:

So you can see after all?!?

faker. 
 

EP40 is out with second squad 

Apparently he recognized Shaq one time when they were in an elevator together and Shaq hadn’t said a word.

[JeremyCuddles]

30 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

 

I honestly think Hughes and Hronek could be lethal on PP1. Not seen too often anymore, but I think the two D system should be experimented with more again, especially when you have a passer-shooter combo like Hughes and Hronek. Get Hughes on the right side so Hronek can wire the one-timers.

Would allow Hughes to roam around like he tends to do with more freedom. Outside of Miller, Petey and Kuzmenko. Not many forwards I'd rather have on the 1st unit PP than Hronek. It's unconventional nowadays. But I think Hronek and Hughes on the 1st unit does sound good. Only real issue is do you move Petey or Miller down to Bo's old spot. Petey on the right side for one tees is too good to pass up. Miller also likes to handle the puck on the left board. One of them would have to adjust how they play.

[Snoop Hogg]

13 minutes ago, RWJC said:

No but I did hear Raymond and Ballard mentioned. Sounds like a package deal on its way in/out. 
 

edit…something now about Babcock coming on in an advisory position 

 

 

Higgins just joined the group.

Everybody scrolling Sportsnet app, hah

Where does future considerations fit into the picture?

[Rip The Mesh]

3 minutes ago, Frozen Water Walker said:

That is what I really want to see, add those elite forwards to the group and they should have a top tier PP

Absolutely! We cannot be wasting PPs as much as last year. Gotta get that PP goals mark way up. Arguably, our three best forwards; Pettersson Miller and Kumenko

have got to get up as close to the 30 goals for every 60 times. Preferably even higher. 

[Jess]

1 minute ago, JeremyCuddles said:

Would allow Hughes to roam around like he tends to do with more freedom. Outside of Miller, Petey and Kuzmenko. Not many forwards I'd rather have on the 1st unit PP than Hronek. It's unconventional nowadays. But I think Hronek and Hughes on the 1st unit does sound good. Only real issue is do you move Petey or Miller down to Bo's old spot. Petey on the right side for one tees is too good to pass up. Miller also likes to handle the puck on the left board. One of them would have to adjust how they play.

 

Kuz can perfectly fill Bo's void IMO. Not quite as strong, but his finish is incredible. Keep Milsy on the left wall, Petey on the right, and have Kuzmenko tipping or causing trouble in the slot. Hronek on the left side with bombs and Hughes on the right side setting everyone up. Feels perfect.

[Jess]

11 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:

I think Tocchet said he wasn’t a fan of Hughes playing his off side. But the Hughes Hronek pairing could work. Hughes is a natural lefty while Hronek is a natural righty. 

 

True, but I think an exception could be made for the PP. Playing on your off-wing is great for finding good shots, which is nice for offense. 

[JeremyCuddles]

1 minute ago, -AJ- said:

 

Kuz can perfectly fill Bo's void IMO. Not quite as strong, but his finish is incredible. Keep Milsy on the left wall, Petey on the right, and have Kuzmenko tipping or causing trouble in the slot. Hronek on the left side with bombs and Hughes on the right side setting everyone up. Feels perfect.

That still has Miller and Hronek occupying the same space. Unless you're moving Miller down to the left board goal line where Kuzy currently hangs out looking for tap ins. But that removes a lot of Miller's passing options that he has higher up in the ozone.

[Jess]

Just now, JeremyCuddles said:

That still has Miller and Hronek occupying the same space. Unless you're moving Miller down to the left board goal line where Kuzy currently hangs out looking for tap ins. But that removes a lot of Miller's passing options that he has higher up in the ozone.

 

I'm thinking Miller is more down low or at the face-off dot, whereas Hronek is closer to the blue line. Miller would have the option of feeding Kuzmenko or going back up to Hronek or, if he has a great lane, a saucer to Petey across the ice. He could also easily move behind the net to change the options up and get different options to Petey and Kuzmenko.