Trebreh Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Nucker67 said: Canucks Army has an article on a possible Eriksson Ek trade, and suggested: No way I would want this to happen, but I could see why Minny would. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Nucker67 said: This is the most I would go for Eriksson Ek. He's never scored more than 26 goals, maybe he gets a bit more this year. He's also a left-hand shot, not ideal. To MIN: Kuzmenko Podkolzin Brzustewicz 4th (2024) - NJ's To VAN Eriksson Ek * this way the Canucks keep Lekkerimaki, Willander and the 1sts. MIN still gets two high-end prospects and an NHL player who scored 39 goals last year. You add a first round pick to that and I still don't think it's enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Trebreh said: The structure of that deal doesn't work. If the wild are trading Ek they need a center back which would need to be Raty and if they are getting Kuzmenko there would only need to be one of hoglander, lekkerimaki and willander. Unless we are acquiring a top 4 d tough to imagine willander going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Trebreh said: Thats 4 first round picks. Not a chance in jebus sweet heaven that happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: You add a first round pick to that and I still don't think it's enough. And take out hunter. Think bo horvat. He got a first and a third. I'd take bo back over ek. People are way over valuing this guy. Edited January 22 by ronning4center 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Captain insano said: If islanders keep falling I wonder if a guy like Nelson would become available? They are nearly capped out next season with a couple rfas to sign still, not sure how it would work but islanders need some drastic change and we are comfortable trading with each other as we both think we won that trade Yeah or Bo lol his 8.5 doesn't seem that bad and on a good team I bet he's better. Also insurance in case petey walks. Would you do kuz and a 1st and 3rd for bo? I probably would Edited January 22 by ronning4center 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngoway Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Nucker67 said: Canucks Army has an article on a possible Eriksson Ek trade, and suggested: No way I would want this to happen, but I could see why Minny would. Sounds like bit of clickbait happening from the Canucks Army page in this case then. Hasn't management said a few times already that Lekkerimaki and Willander would be the untouchable prospects? I like Eriksson Ek, and he's a great player, but there's no chance we'd let go of our two top prospects+ Hoglander and a couple draft picks. Management has also be pretty good with finding good value on these trades, so this would be a Benning lite era type of trade to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 37 minutes ago, Trebreh said: That’s an overpayment on our part. No way. No thanks. If that’s what it takes. Then hard pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, ngoway said: Sounds like bit of clickbait happening from the Canucks Army page in this case then. Hasn't management said a few times already that Lekkerimaki and Willander would be the untouchable prospects? I like Eriksson Ek, and he's a great player, but there's no chance we'd let go of our two top prospects+ Hoglander and a couple draft picks. Management has also be pretty good with finding good value on these trades, so this would be a Benning lite era type of trade to me That’s basically THREE FIRST ROUNDS. we trading for Gretzky here? Goodness. Ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Nucker67 said: Canucks Army has an article on a possible Eriksson Ek trade, and suggested: No way I would want this to happen, but I could see why Minny would. Basically 3 firsts (at least 2 of whom are looking like top players) + 2 2nd round picks (at least one is an NHL player + a 39 goal goalscorer and a 4th round pick....... Why not give them QH and Petey while we're at it.... Don't care how good EK is, but there are at least likely to be 3-4 good nhl players amongst those... and basically the future of team minus Petey and Hughes.... Doesn't sound like a good investment. On the other hand, if we go all in and don't win in the next two seasons... It could be argued, if a quick rebuild should be considered. Selling QH +EP + Brock + Miller (or something like that) should be enough to give us a good starting point for a proper rebuild. Don't see a future for this team with Petey and QH on it, if there are no quality ETC's to enter the line up, in the next 2-3 years... I don't want this, but can see the reasons for going all in... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Lindholm would be a rental, so how expensive would he be to get? From what I understand, JR drafted Lindholm and wants him, and CGY wants Hoglander. to CGY - Hoglander, Mikheyev and 2nd (2025) to VAN - Lindholm Underpayment? Lindholm on a playoff team (2021/22) - 42 goals Lindholm on a non-playoff team (2022/23) - 22 goals ...and he's on pace for 16 goals this year I believe he would re-sign in VAN, because JR knows him well and would want to keep him here. Maybe there's also another deal sending Kuzmenko+ to PIT for Guentzel. Kuzy and Malkin could be BFFs. Pettersson - Miller - Boeser Suter - Lindholm - Guentzel Joshua - Blueger - Garland Di Giuseppe - Aman - Lafferty Karlsson Edited January 22 by Nucker67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 26 minutes ago, ronning4center said: Yeah or Bo lol his 8.5 doesn't seem that bad and on a good team I bet he's better. Also insurance in case petey walks. Would you do kuz and a 1st and 3rd for bo? I probably would I think that ship has sailed. It would be awkward ti bring him back into that room. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Nucker67 said: Lindholm would be a rental, so how expensive would he be to get? From what I understand, JR drafted Lindholm and wants him, and CGY wants Hoglander. to CGY - Hoglander, Mikheyev and 2nd (2025) to VAN - Lindholm Underpayment? Lindholm on a playoff team (2021/22) - 42 goals Lindholm on a non-playoff team (2022/23) - 22 goals ...and he's on pace for 16 goals this year I believe he would re-sign in VAN, because JR knows him well and would want to keep him here. Maybe there's also another deal sending Kuzmenko+ to PIT for Guentzel. Kuzy and Malkin could be BFFs. Pettersson - Miller - Boeer Suter - Lindholm - Guentzel Joshua - Blueger - Garland Di Giuseppe - Aman - Lafferty Karlsson Where is the cap to be able to keep Guentzel and Lindholm? Kuzmenko’s gotta go if we’re going to resign the depth pieces we need to remain competitive and also sign Petey and Hronek to long term deals. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, ronning4center said: Yeah or Bo lol his 8.5 doesn't seem that bad and on a good team I bet he's better. Also insurance in case petey walks. Would you do kuz and a 1st and 3rd for bo? I probably would As it is right now one of garland and kuz needs to be removed to be sble to bring back our d for next year Absolute most we can add before there are severe issues is 6.5 and thats if all the players besides petey take a deal knowing their numbers are part of the whole and not the individual and then petey gets 11.5 that is what is attractive about Eriksson EK, his cap hit is 5.25 and doesnt need a new contract until the 29-30 season, the same year we are free of the OEL buyout penalty so trading Kuz Raty 24 first 25 first 25 second is the price to keep competitive with this roster. Its one big move that puts us over the top, keeps the window open longer and would allow us to inject youth over the next few years. There is a lot of value in the cap hit and only puts the roster in a position to be able to only have to drop Garland and the rest can stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckless Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 13 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: 2012: Game 7 OT winner in round one vs. Florida; Game 6 OT winner that sent the Devils to the Stanley Cup final. Yup. Oh yeah damn. I just checked his stats and saw 4 goals those playoffs. But yeah for sure that’s deadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohthehumanity Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 16 hours ago, Alflives said: How about we draft Jagr in Vancouver instead of LedHead? Loved Pat Quinn but missing on Jagr cost our club at least one cup. You know that Jagr told the other teams that he wouldn't come over to the NHL right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngoway Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Lindholm would be a rental, so how expensive would he be to get? From what I understand, JR drafted Lindholm and wants him, and CGY wants Hoglander. to CGY - Hoglander, Mikheyev and 2nd (2025) to VAN - Lindholm Underpayment? Lindholm on a playoff team (2021/22) - 42 goals Lindholm on a non-playoff team (2022/23) - 22 goals ...and he's on pace for 16 goals this year I believe he would re-sign in VAN, because JR knows him well and would want to keep him here. Maybe there's also another deal sending Kuzmenko+ to PIT for Guentzel. Kuzy and Malkin could be BFFs. Pettersson - Miller - Boeser Suter - Lindholm - Guentzel Joshua - Blueger - Garland Di Giuseppe - Aman - Lafferty Karlsson While I agree that Lindholm and Guentzel would instantly make our team better. I get the sense that management wouldn't be in on either of these players because of the cost to acquire, and the cost to re-sign. Both players will likely look to cash in and I'm guessing they'd push for 7mil+ a year at least. Don't think we could even afford to resign one, and management likely knows that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Canucks-on-verge-of-major-deal-E4-Buzzcast-at-3pm/1/124107 everything is happening, we are in the verge of a major deal LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 19 minutes ago, canucks curse said: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Canucks-on-verge-of-major-deal-E4-Buzzcast-at-3pm/1/124107 everything is happening, we are in the verge of a major deal LOL E4 or E5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Pears said: E4 or E5? E4 Phil kessel loves Mayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Guentzel Lindholm Eriksson EK Boone Tarasenko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 My preference would be to get Henrique, Bertuzzi and Eberle. Henrique can be that all-situations 2nd C (good on draws, can both score or set up, both PP and PK), Bertuzzi can be that sh*t-disturbing wrecking ball on the wing with a good shot, and Eberle's become more of a playmaker this year, though he can still score himself and often comes up clutch (he scored 0.8 points/ game last playoffs). Seeing how both wingers are underachieving and pending UFAs, perhaps Allvin can buy low on them (swap out Kuzmenko + pick for Bertuzzi, trade Mikheyev for Eberle) and re-sign the fits on the team who would perform well in a Tocchet system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngoway Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: My preference would be to get Henrique, Bertuzzi and Eberle. Henrique can be that all-situations 2nd C (good on draws, can both score or set up, both PP and PK), Bertuzzi can be that sh*t-disturbing wrecking ball on the wing with a good shot, and Eberle's become more of a playmaker this year, though he can still score himself and often comes up clutch (he scored 0.8 points/ game last playoffs). Seeing how both wingers are underachieving and pending UFAs, perhaps Allvin can buy low on them (swap out Kuzmenko + pick for Bertuzzi, trade Mikheyev for Eberle) and re-sign the fits on the team who would perform well in a Tocchet system. If we really want to push for the cup, I feel like we'll need to bring in someone with more impact and who are a bit younger so we can add them to our core. With these 3 guys going into their mid 30's now, I wonder if there's a lower cost, similar style player, and on a cheaper contract/with a cheaper ask. My guess is our better trade assets would be utilized for the players with a higher ask with more impact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 54 minutes ago, Pears said: E4 or E5? E∞ This is happening with infinite certainty! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: Where is the cap to be able to keep Guentzel and Lindholm? Kuzmenko’s gotta go if we’re going to resign the depth pieces we need to remain competitive and also sign Petey and Hronek to long term deals. This. We might be able to factor the cap of bringing in ONE good player (Especially if Kuz gets moved), but 2 players of that caliber will not likely happen. Now with Soucy out again, we have three areas of need: 1) 2nd line center 2) Top 6 winger if we move on from Kuzmenko. 3) Possibly 1 solid defenseman - preferably top 4. To me, this one is debatable. As much as we'd like to continue bolstering the D, the players in place right now have actually done a pretty darn good job. While missing Soucy will make it more difficult to continue wracking up these points, I think the team has enough padding that they can wait for him to return if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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