WHL rocks Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: choose a player and ill do a report for you... it will take me hours so please dont troll if you dont care... 4 minutes ago, tas said: brock boeser. 3 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: good choice, this will actually be a challenging one... and if my stats would fail this would be it... Wow This is awesome.. Where will we be able to look at you're finished report.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, WHL rocks said: Wow This is awesome.. Where will we be able to look at you're finished report.. I'm just hoping he'll also do my taxes and bring me a beer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Alflives said: Hughes is the best player we’ve ever had. He is the guy who leads us to multiple Cups. I think fans just don’t realize how special a player Hughes is. He’s not Orr but he’s the closest I’ve seen for controlling the game. Hughes is definitely in the Sedins/Bure category for me in terms of importance….maybe more as you believe. Either way, I agree with you 1000% that Hughes is an extremely special talent. One major thing that I disagree with many posters on here, is that…. 1. We are now on par with 2011 and have nothing left to add. or 2. We should still add another top 6 forward like Guentzel I just don’t see it like that. Unlike our 2011 team where any one injury to any one player wouldn’t sink us (ie Hank, Dan, Kes. etc), I think this current team will be significantly affected if Hughes got injured for a long time. As a result, I still think we need a guy like Tanev or Andersson to form a new top pairing with Hronek just incase something like that happened. If Hughes were to get injured long term and we were forced to form a top pairing of Soucy/Myers/Zadorov/Cole with Hronek, our cup aspirations would be over. Edited February 2 by Jeremy Hronek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Not sure why some people are hyping Mikheyev. The guy is a great 3rd liner, average at best 2nd liner if that even. He’s never scored more than 32 points. Doesn’t even scream 2nd line player to me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aGENT Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, NHL97OneTimer said: The one intangible with Garland that I like is that he puts our potent PP into action pretty frequently. In the playoffs that will be huge. Problem being, whistles go away in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I was around for 82 as well. 1994 I was the most excited. I thought we had a real shot in game 7. IMO, with Lindholm on the team I think this may be the best Vancouver Canucks team ever. We didn’t have Hughes in 1994 or 2011. We now have our Ryan Kesler. I think 2024 is the year. I think this is it. The 2011 team, on pure talent, should have won and won easily. Injuries and the refs putting their whistles away did us in. This group has the same talent up front but with more depth - 3 excellent lines and a very good 4th line. A better top pair than 2011 and while the rest aren’t as skilled, they’re a bunch of giants and all *good* 4-5 players. Demko will never have Luongo’s career but he’s shown to be just as good in key games. We stack up pretty darn well. Also, we also don’t have a dynasty team like Chicago that always has our number to beat.. but in 2011 I wasn’t too worried about Nashville or San Jose. This year teams like Vegas, LA and Winnipeg will be brutal 7 games series’ to survive. And the Oilers and Avalanche could beat anyone if their stars get hot. Feels like a tougher road potentially. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, CanuckMan said: Not sure why some people are hyping Mikheyev. The guy is a great 3rd liner, average at best 2nd liner if that even. He’s never scored more than 32 points. Doesn’t even scream 2nd line player to me. If Mikheyev can chip in the odd goal while riding shotgun with Miller/Boeser or Pettersson/Lindholm, while simultaneously being the defensive conscience on one of those lines, then that’s fine with me. Mikheyev is offensively inconsistent and needs good linemates but he’s defensively exceptional. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darius Posted February 2 Popular Post Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, WHL rocks said: I feel even better about the trade today than I did ast night.. I'm not at all worried about losing Brzustewicz. I've thought for quite some time that he would be traded this year or in the summer as part of a package. He hadn't yet signed here. We sold his peak value.. I think his value is inflated for a number of reasons and I've never thought he's going to be a great player. Jurmo might end up being a depth call up player spending most of his career in the minors.. Basically imo we paid a 1st + B prospect + a cap dump and hopefully 3rd We get a premiere 2way RHC and our team's #1 target and #1 need. The team will try to extend him and if they can't that'll be OK. We have to take this run at the Cup. Next year we have 8 UFAs. Can't bring this team back. Strike while the iron is hot and go for the Cup. Great Points! Im not worried about scoring - isnt this team top or top two in offence? This player fills many needs - face offs, shutdown forward, PK. Stuff that can bolster a playoff team. Calgary is ranked number 3 in PK this year. Their top two players minutes wise on the PK 1) Tanev 2) Lindholm. Imagine we run into Edmonton in the playoffs, McLotto and Grumpy Sidekick are setting up on the PP. I feel better knowing this guy will be on the ice winning a draw or PKing.... or the team is up by one in the third with a minute to go...you have options on who will take the draw without relying on Miller every time. Lots of intangibles. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted February 2 Popular Post Share Posted February 2 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: I still think we need another top quality dman of a similar calibre to Hronek but other than that, yes, I think we might see something special in these coming months. I’d personally feel better with one final deal with Calgary involving Andersson or Tanev (with Myers+ going the other way) but will be at peace if we see no more transactions from here on out (although I do have concerns if we lose Quinn Hughes to long term injury). -If we acquire Tanev = same level as 2011 -If we acquire Andersson = we surpass our 2011 team. But again, just my opinion. We didn't have a Hughes in 2011, not even close. He makes up for like 2-3 guys. So I would argue that our defence in 2024 is better than in 2011.. As for the forwards, we have a better group this year with Lindholm than in 2011 as well. Sedin Sedin Burrows Raymond Kesler Samuelsson Pettersson Lindholm Mikheyev Suter Miller Boeser We have 4 star forwards in 2024, we only had 3 in 2011. Lindholm is our Kesler. So that frees up Miller to be a Sedin along with Petey. Plus we also have Boeser. We didn't have a potential 50 goal scorer in 2011. Our 3rd line is also better in 2024 than in 2011. This 2024 team is the best team in Vancouver Canucks history. No doubt in my mind... Edited February 2 by Elias Pettersson 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 9 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: If Mikheyev can chip in the odd goal while riding shotgun with Miller/Boeser or Pettersson/Lindholm, while simultaneously being the defensive conscience on one of those lines, then that’s fine with me. Mikheyev is offensively inconsistent and needs good linemates but he’s defensively exceptional. Yup. Unlike Benning/Brod new management has a plan. Mik was brought in early but is part of a greater plan. He’s exactly what you describe. Fans need to realize that this management builds their club by adding key parts when those parts are available. Mik is the key part you point out put. He’s a complimentary piece on a top six line. Management got him to play that role. Now they have Lindholm coming in two years later. But it’s all connected. Very smart management. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted February 2 Popular Post Share Posted February 2 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Darius said: Great Points! Im not worried about scoring - isnt this team top or top two in offence? This player fills many needs - face offs, shutdown forward, PK. Stuff that can bolster a playoff team. Calgary is ranked number 3 in PK this year. Their top two players minutes wise on the PK 1) Tanev 2) Lindholm. Imagine we run into Edmonton in the playoffs, McLotto and Grumpy Sidekick are setting up on the PP. I feel better knowing this guy will be on the ice winning a draw or PKing.... or the team is up by one in the third with a minute to go...you have options on who will take the draw without relying on Miller every time. Lots of intangibles. Lindholm is literally our best penalty killer. That is massive. And he's our best faceoff man. That is also massive. We literally just added Ryan Kesler to the team. I don't think some people quite understand this. Imagine adding Ryan Kesler to your team just in time for the playoffs? Imagine being the best team in the league and then on top of that you add Ryan Kesler? I'm getting giddy just thinking about it... Edited February 2 by Elias Pettersson 6 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: We didn't have a Hughes in 2011, not even close. He makes up for like 2-3 guys. So I would argue that our defence in 2024 is better than in 2011.. As for the forwards, we have a better group this year with Lindholm than in 2011 as well. Sedin Sedin Burrows Raymond Kesler Samuelsson Pettersson Lindholm Mikheyev Suter Miller Boeser We have 4 star forwards in 2024, we only had 3 in 2011. Lindholm is our Kesler. So that frees up Miller to be a Sedin along with Petey. Plus we also have Boeser. We didn't have a potential 50 goal scorer in 2011. Our 3rd line is also better in 2024 than in 2011. This 2024 team is the best team in Vancouver Canucks history. No doubt in my mind... I had this same discussion in my head with myself today. I totally agree. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, Hammertime said: I couldn't disagree more. Myers plays more mins than any D not named Hughes Hronek. He is is well respected by the coaching and the players in the room and a BC Okanagan resident. I would love to see Myers re signed 2m x 3 or 2.5 x 2. I get that 6m was a contract he never lived up to but he's far from rubbish. I think a lot of playoff teams around the league would jump at a deal for him 50% retained. Fair enough. To each their own. I'm part of the crowd who was begging for him to be shot to the moon the last couple of years. I don't really care that he is playing better now it just feels like a hockey mistake to force ourselves back into a situation where just 3 months ago people were talking about attaching a first to get out from under that contract. Not to mention it's a contract year for him. Once he gets a 2 or 3 year deal he has no incentive not to routinely make the boneheaded plays he's best known for. Having said that I did like him on Winnipeg as a third defender where he doesn't stand out so much. But that was $30 million and 4 bad years of hockey ago. Either way I'm not on a rage to bash him to the ground and lead the protest. I'll let PA and JR make that decision, but I think they're smarter than that and they will look for a better player given the opportunity to do so. Living in the Okanagan means nothing in terms of how good a hockey player is. Not sure why you mentioned that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: We didn't have a Hughes in 2011, not even close. He makes up for like 2-3 guys. So I would argue that our defence in 2024 is better than in 2011.. As for the forwards, we have a better group this year with Lindholm than in 2011 as well. Sedin Sedin Burrows Raymond Kesler Samuelsson Pettersson Lindholm Mikheyev Suter Miller Boeser We have 4 star forwards in 2024, we only had 3 in 2011. Lindholm is our Kesler. So that frees up Miller to be a Sedin along with Petey. Plus we also have Boeser. We didn't have a potential 50 goal scorer in 2011. Our 3rd line is also better in 2024 than in 2011. This 2024 team is the best team in Vancouver Canucks history. No doubt in my mind... Yup. Quinn Hughes is the key. We’ve had great clubs but always list to the team that had a great D man. Now we have the great D man. Any club we go up against we will have the best D man. Sabres got Dahlin at 11.25 and we have Quinn for 7.8. Holy shit! U I s there any wonder why we are great and the Sabres suck pucks? Dahlin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Fair enough. To each their own. I'm part of the crowd who was begging for him to be shot to the moon the last couple of years. I don't really care that he is playing better now it just feels like a hockey mistake to force ourselves back into a situation where just 3 months ago people were talking about attaching a first to get out from under that contract. Not to mention it's a contract year for him. Once he gets a 2 or 3 year deal he has no incentive not to routinely make the boneheaded plays he's best known for. Having said that I did like him on Winnipeg as a third defender where he doesn't stand out so much. But that was $30 million and 4 bad years of hockey ago. Either way I'm not on a rage to bash him to the ground and lead the protest. I'll let PA and JR make that decision, but I think they're smarter than that and they will look for a better player given the opportunity to do so. Living in the Okanagan means nothing in terms of how good a hockey player is. Not sure why you mentioned that part. Sounds to me like you hated the contract more than the player. And rightfully so. I think if he comes back it's on a 1 or 2 year deal, can't see us signing a 34 year old to a 3 year deal. The number should be around 3-3.5 on a hometown discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 34 minutes ago, aGENT said: Problem being, whistles go away in the playoffs. Then they come back again for a period to fuck the game flow before going away again. Surprising amount of minor penalties called last year though... https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?report=penalties&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20222023&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=3&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=minors&page=0&pageSize=50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Pacioretty would be a good add. Could fit him in without moving cap and he shouldn’t cost too much. Pacioretty Miller Boeser Lindholm Pettersson Mikheyev 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Pacioretty would be a good add. Could fit him in without moving cap and he shouldn’t cost too much. Pacioretty Miller Boeser Lindholm Pettersson Mikheyev Kessel is another guy and we wouldn't have to spend assets to acquire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Junkyard Dog said: Kessel is another guy and we wouldn't have to spend assets to acquire. I just wonder what kinda shape he’s in after being out this long. Id rather spend the picks for Pacioretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, DeNiro said: I just wonder what kinda shape he’s in after being out this long. Id rather spend the picks for Pacioretty. Tocchet commented on Kessel today. Said he talked with Keller(who's close friends will Kessel) and Keller said Phil is skating a ton and staying in shape in Arizona. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 34 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: We didn't have a Hughes in 2011, not even close. He makes up for like 2-3 guys. So I would argue that our defence in 2024 is better than in 2011.. As for the forwards, we have a better group this year with Lindholm than in 2011 as well. Sedin Sedin Burrows Raymond Kesler Samuelsson Pettersson Lindholm Mikheyev Suter Miller Boeser We have 4 star forwards in 2024, we only had 3 in 2011. Lindholm is our Kesler. So that frees up Miller to be a Sedin along with Petey. Plus we also have Boeser. We didn't have a potential 50 goal scorer in 2011. Our 3rd line is also better in 2024 than in 2011. This 2024 team is the best team in Vancouver Canucks history. No doubt in my mind... Our 3rd and 4th line are better than the 2011 team, and so is our depth. When injuries hit, we ended up with Bolduc, Rookie Hodgson and Tanev, Tambellini, Oreskovich, Glass… If injuries hit, this team right now has Juulsen, Podkolzin, Friedman, PDG, Karlsson, Wolanin, Hirose, McWard (and others) that could all fill a gap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Tocchet commented on Kessel today. Said he talked with Keller(who's close friends will Kessel) and Keller said Phil is skating a ton and staying in shape in Arizona. Kessel has 83 points in 100 career playoff games. Never put much thought into him but might be a veteran add who has produced in the past...provided he's in shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 After all the verbal pissing contests and friendly wagers made on who between Gnarly Garly vs. Soupy Mik will be traded first, I would laugh sofa king hard if they both get traded away on the same transaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I just wonder what kinda shape he’s in after being out this long. Id rather spend the picks for Pacioretty. Pacioretty has played a total of 104 games over the past 4 seasons, although he does have 98 points. Durability might be as issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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