Coryberg Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 52 minutes ago, CaptainCanuck12 said: So now I see that Jeff Patterson is suggesting on his X site that Lindholm has been linked to a trade to Boston?? Anyone know where this came from? Chris Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 https://www.houseofhockey.net/nhl-team/vancouver-canucks/breaking-insider-reveals-that-the-canucks-may-part-with-star-acquisition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Sativika said: https://www.houseofhockey.net/nhl-team/vancouver-canucks/breaking-insider-reveals-that-the-canucks-may-part-with-star-acquisition With all due respect, I'm not reading that. House of Hockey!? WTF. Are they the shop between House of Pancakes and House of Flooring!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, Rekker said: With all due respect, I'm not reading that. House of Hockey!? WTF. Are they the shop between House of Pancakes and House of Flooring!? Okay. How about, "Blade Of Steel." https://www.bladeofsteel.com/nhl/news/vancouver-canucks-already-looking-to-flip-elias-lindholm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 The chances that Lindholm has appreciated in trade value since we acquired him has got to be 0, so if we do flip him, I suspect we take an immediate L on that intial trade. Guess we gotta wait and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Sell.the.team said: The chances that Lindholm has appreciated in trade value since we acquired him has got to be 0, so if we do flip him, I suspect we take an immediate L on that intial trade. Guess we gotta wait and see what happens. Not necessarily. Boston really needs a center, who knows what they offer up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 So, I'm not about to call this trade a bust at this point, but I do feel like I need to see the Lindholm that we paid for, emerge tonight. The guy that I've seen so far, I think of as worth Kuzmenko and maybe a 3rd rounder. I want to see the guy we really paid out for start to emerge again and not just for a flashes, I want to see a whole game where he drives the play at both ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: So, I'm not about to call this trade a bust at this point, but I do feel like I need to see the Lindholm that we paid for, emerge tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: The guy that I've seen so far, I think of as worth Kuzmenko and maybe a 3rd rounder. Kuzmenko and a 3rd rounder would have been worth a 7th rounder. With his contract and his defensive deficiencies nobody was lining up to pay for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: So, I'm not about to call this trade a bust at this point, but I do feel like I need to see the Lindholm that we paid for, emerge tonight. The guy that I've seen so far, I think of as worth Kuzmenko and maybe a 3rd rounder. I want to see the guy we really paid out for start to emerge again and not just for a flashes, I want to see a whole game where he drives the play at both ends. The Canucks brass, for whatever reason, created a problem that never existed in the first place. Prior to the Lindholm trade, we already had two lines that could consistently score (Lotto Line and Garland’s line). Three lines when you consider that Hoglander was driving the 4th line and consistently scoring. Yes our 2nd line of Mikheyev, Suter, and Kuzmenko was completely useless but it was a non-issue given the above. In theory, Lindholm should have been an excellent addition for us because he could have taken that Suter/Mikheyev line, and turned it into a supreme shut down line. Mikheyev and Suter, despite their offensive impotency, are among the best defensive players in the league. Ditto for Lindholm even when his offense isn’t up to par. USE THAT! Instead, our coaching staff became obsessed with Pettersson and Lindholm forming a man on man penis on penis relationship with one another in hopes of creating a baby (to address an issue which never existed in the first place). Even now, it’s not too late. 1. Reunite the Lotto Line 2. Podkolzin with Bluegar/Garland until Joshua comes back. 3. Let Hoglander continue to dominate on the 4th line. Mikheyev-Lindholm-Suter, much like me during my college days, probably won’t be able to score much, but this line would be among the best shut down lines in the league. Edited March 6 by Jeremy Hronek 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Even though Lindholm has been a disappointment offensively so far, I definitely notice his contributions defensively and on faceoffs. Having a RH center who is excellent in the circle is a big deal. He also takes some of the pressure off of Miller & Petey. I hope EL gets some chemistry and offense going. If he doesn't, then we overpaid for him. But still, I'm really happy he's on the team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 This trade is looking worse and worse by the day. Colorado has the whole trading thing figured out! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzeye Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I still think it's a solid trade. We have been incredibly lucky this season with no top six injuries. If we can actually put together a deep run in the playoffs I would be a lot happier knowing we have Lindy as insurance if Petey or Miller were to go down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrago Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I thought this was a horrible trade when we made it but I thought at least Lindolm would put up descent numbers and be solid defensively, boy was I wrong he's an offensive black hole and just ok Defensively. He's literally LE but a center. I used to think if we re-signed him that would at least make things a little better, but now it's the last thing I want to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexM94 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 57 minutes ago, Thrago said: I thought this was a horrible trade when we made it but I thought at least Lindolm would put up descent numbers and be solid defensively, boy was I wrong he's an offensive black hole and just ok Defensively. He's literally LE but a center. I used to think if we re-signed him that would at least make things a little better, but now it's the last thing I want to happen. i wanted to stay away from Lindholm, and take Monohan instead. how frustrating is that,. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occ78 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) They needed a winger that can play with Pettersson/Hoglander Toffoli They only had to give up 1 or 2nd round for someone like Toffoli who is proven to have good chemistry with Pettersson and they go and get linholm when our 3 rd line is one of the best in the league give up bunch of picks and one of our top prospect RHD Joshua Blueger Garland They probably can get something back trading kuzmenko to Blackhawk/blue jacket/ capital etc Zzzzzz Edited March 18 by occ78 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KesLord Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I think it's safe to say we won't be extending Lindholm. Sick of Calgary continuously taking advantage of our management. The Baertschi trade was what started it all, as the 2nd we gave them turned into Rasmus Andersson. Then we give them Tanev & Markstrom for free. Looks like we've just handed them Kuzmenko, A top RHD prospect and a 1st round pick for free as well. I've liked Lindholm since he's come into the league, but come on dude, show us something. 13:54 in ice time yesterday is just embarrassing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 16 hours ago, KesLord said: I think it's safe to say we won't be extending Lindholm. Sick of Calgary continuously taking advantage of our management. The Baertschi trade was what started it all, as the 2nd we gave them turned into Rasmus Andersson. Then we give them Tanev & Markstrom for free. Looks like we've just handed them Kuzmenko, A top RHD prospect and a 1st round pick for free as well. I've liked Lindholm since he's come into the league, but come on dude, show us something. 13:54 in ice time yesterday is just embarrassing. We didn't give them Tanev & Markstrom for free. They're automonous human beings who chose to sign in Calgary? But yea Lindholm needs to get his shite together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 16 hours ago, KesLord said: I think it's safe to say we won't be extending Lindholm. Sick of Calgary continuously taking advantage of our management. The Baertschi trade was what started it all, as the 2nd we gave them turned into Rasmus Andersson. Then we give them Tanev & Markstrom for free. Looks like we've just handed them Kuzmenko, A top RHD prospect and a 1st round pick for free as well. I've liked Lindholm since he's come into the league, but come on dude, show us something. 13:54 in ice time yesterday is just embarrassing. He is due a new contract and he is playing in a third line role where his offensive numbers have been stifled. Yes he is an awesome centre, he is killing it in the faceoff circle and he is really helping the Canucks with his depth BUT, there is zero intention to keep Lindholm where he is when Joshua returns as that third line the Canucks have is with no bias here one of the top 3rd lines in the league. So why continue to prevent growth and chemistry for Lindholm in the top six at his stage ? top six is where he belongs and will be anyways with Joshua's return. For the team it has helped having Lindholm as a third line centre but overall it has been a misuse of a top six asset. There is no secret in building your forward lines in duos, Boeser & Miller, Pettersson & Lindholm. No brainer. Add Mikheyev/Suter with Miller and Boeser, Hoglander with Petey and Lindholm. I would be of the assumption there is no chance Lindholm is extended, that might have been different had he continued in a top six role and developed chemistry there but he is not given an opportunity here to play top six minutes in a meaningful role and looking at his face he doesn't look super happy out there. Was a good bet and I am not saying he won't prove vital come Playoff time as he will be, but I think the team to a degree pooched the opportunity that was here to get him in a groove and have him enjoy success in the top six thus giving him some incentive to extend. Should have provided incentive for bottom six guys to play on that third line while Joshua was out all the while having Lindholm gelling in the top six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: He is due a new contract and he is playing in a third line role where his offensive numbers have been stifled. Yes he is an awesome centre, he is killing it in the faceoff circle and he is really helping the Canucks with his depth BUT, there is zero intention to keep Lindholm where he is when Joshua returns as that third line the Canucks have is with no bias here one of the top 3rd lines in the league. So why continue to prevent growth and chemistry for Lindholm in the top six at his stage ? top six is where he belongs and will be anyways with Joshua's return. For the team it has helped having Lindholm as a third line centre but overall it has been a misuse of a top six asset. There is no secret in building your forward lines in duos, Boeser & Miller, Pettersson & Lindholm. No brainer. Add Mikheyev/Suter with Miller and Boeser, Hoglander with Petey and Lindholm. I would be of the assumption there is no chance Lindholm is extended, that might have been different had he continued in a top six role and developed chemistry there but he is not given an opportunity here to play top six minutes in a meaningful role and looking at his face he doesn't look super happy out there. Was a good bet and I am not saying he won't prove vital come Playoff time as he will be, but I think the team to a degree pooched the opportunity that was here to get him in a groove and have him enjoy success in the top six thus giving him some incentive to extend. Should have provided incentive for bottom six guys to play on that third line while Joshua was out all the while having Lindholm gelling in the top six. I agree, except that it seems Hoglander and Petey is quickly becoming that lines pair. I honestly think for this season once DJ gets back, a line of him, Lindy, and Garland would be even more superior then with Blue. I could see us going into the playoffs with a roster of: mik - Miller - Boeser hogz - Petey - Suter/Podz joshua - Lindy - garland Suter/Podz - Blueger - Lafferty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 This is one of current management's worst trades. We gave up a lot for what appears to be a mediocre player. Of course I hope to eat crow if he actually starts playing really good hockey in the playoffs. I just won't hold my breath. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Mac said: This is one of current management's worst trades. We gave up a lot for what appears to be a mediocre player. Of course I hope to eat crow if he actually starts playing really good hockey in the playoffs. I just won't hold my breath. I mean, Petey will rebound it's okay. Wait, no, you mean Lindholm. Nah, I am sure he'll rebound. It's okay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I think we're even more disappointed in how the trade turn out based on Lindholm's point production so far, especially as we see other comparable rentals like Tofu and Monahan showing better value when we paid more for Lindholm. Some didn't like the price we paid, but they certainly didn't expect this to not work out at all because almost all the moves that JR and PA have made before this trade have worked out. When Joshua comes back they need to try putting Lindholm back with Petey again. I can only hope Petey gets it going then the offense will come for Lindholm as well. Lindholm is not supposed to be the one driving the offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mac said: This is one of current management's worst trades. We gave up a lot for what appears to be a mediocre player. Of course I hope to eat crow if he actually starts playing really good hockey in the playoffs. I just won't hold my breath. Edited March 19 by iinatcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 16 hours ago, NHLer said: We didn't give them Tanev & Markstrom for free. They're automonous human beings who chose to sign in Calgary? But yea Lindholm needs to get his shite together. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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