DeNiro Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Not nervous whatsoever. I had complete faith and confidence in the Hronek trade despite the alarmist "concern" hysteria. Look how that turned out. None of this comes for free. There's a price to pay in order to be a contender. This is a bold move. We didn't give up any blue chip prospects and Kuz was found money/free asset to begin with. We're good in the here and now and need moves like this now to be even better instead of waiting 3-4 years from now. Remember when Benning promised “bold moves” and what they turned out to be? I have faith that this management group can make bold moves without being reckless. That’s a big difference. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 19 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: I look at this and can't help but thinking that they'll pick up one more top 6. Mikheyev just doesn't fit the top 6 IMO. I can see Hoglander with Miller and Boeser but your top line here is worth trying. With the current roster though, I'm expecting Lotto line Hogs - Lindholm - Mikheyev Joshua - Blueger - Garland PDG / Aman - Suter - Lafferty One big reason for this - if they want to keep EP after this season, they'll need to stop messing around with his line and give him some productive consistency. Also, it's more seamless when they're in and out of the PP if they stick together. I'd move out Mikheyev++ for a winger rental and let the winger walk in the offseason to make room to re-sign Lindholm. Guentzel anybody?! Can we be that greedy? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 24 minutes ago, testycal said: Andrei leaving town sorry to see him go..just a timing issue..if Canucks were not showing cup promise, he likely has more slack cut to him. he will succeed. Personally not sorry to see him go. Maybe take the job seriously next year if you give a crap about NHL hockey. @stawns obviously Tocchet didn't destroy his value Edited February 1 by Gawdzukes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Gurn said: hoping they can acquire an aging, but still effective vet with lots, and lots, of play off experience. looks like this team is a one run, then massive change model; and if so, they will need a lot of experience to help them through the increased pressure and level of play in the post season. Tanev sticks out as a target, as he still plays 20 minutes a game and is a Stanley Cup finalist. But I'm sure there are others like him, be they forward, or d, which I would prefer. It gets pretty interesting from here in terms of any more moves. They've managed to keep all our ripe/best prospects. But with no 1st we'd be looking at losing some we really need to slot in next year and the one after. Not sure thats in the cards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 13 hours ago, Canuck You said: WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT CDC WAS THE ROOT OF ALL OUR PROBLEMS! But it's still around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Also, I find it funny us raiding Calgary's players after they raided our players. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I think the move is good also in the sense that if Petey tries to strong arm this team and only signs 1 year to reach UFA status then the Canucks already have a capable 2nd line center in Lindholm that can be signed long term. Lindholm won’t be a rental they’ll find a way to re-sign him even if that means trading Mikheyev. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 12 hours ago, Dizzle said: So does this mean we're out on Guentzle? There are some users who will be devastated that we're also now out on Crosby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2025 Cup Contenders... we trade Mikheyev for sissons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: 2025 Cup Contenders... we trade Mikheyev for sissons... And trade Zadorov, but sign the inferior player in Myers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, CanuckMan said: I think the move is good also in the sense that if Petey tries to strong arm this team and only signs 1 year to reach UFA status then the Canucks already have a capable 2nd line center in Lindholm that can be signed long term. Lindholm won’t be a rental they’ll find a way to re-sign him even if that means trading Mikheyev. I don't think it'll come to this, but I can't agree more that it's a fantastic fallback plan. We could get an absolute haul for Petey, so this gives us great leverage in re-signing him. He either wants to stay with the #1 team in the NHL or chase the money. It's going to be veeeeery interesting to learn what Petey truly values the most. I think it'll be the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, CanuckMan said: I think the move is good also in the sense that if Petey tries to strong arm this team and only signs 1 year to reach UFA status then the Canucks already have a capable 2nd line center in Lindholm that can be signed long term. Lindholm won’t be a rental they’ll find a way to re-sign him even if that means trading Mikheyev. Yup, that's really all it will take to re-sign Lindholm. Trading Mikheyev won't hurt very much at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: And trade Zadorov, but sign the inferior player in Myers? need RD players... and myers can actually carry the puck... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 40 minutes ago, PureQuickness said: This wouldn't have happened without Benning then. And Gillis wouldn't have had the success without Burke/Nonis regimes with their horses in the barn. It's pretty clear that we are seeing the best parts of Gillis on display here with Allvin. Hopefully we don't see the bad sides of Gillis. The drafting, however, is apparently so much better than the two regimes (so far). Hunter is already one of the best picks the Canucks had - a third rounder - and Gillis couldn't draft a damn one of these players in FIVE YEARS on the job. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: 2025 Cup Contenders... we trade Mikheyev for sissons... I get trading Mikheyev.....but why Sissons? (honest question) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 12 hours ago, Dizzle said: So does this mean we're out on Guentzle? Honestly? Not necessarily. It would definitely mean Guentzel is a rental though. Moving out Mikheyev and bringing in Guentzel is +$1.25M on the cap which we can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, NHL97OneTimer said: I get trading Mikheyev.....but why Sissons? (honest question) he's big... fairly mobile hits and scores goals for cheap... bang for buck he is a really good buy, oh and he can take a faceoff too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Some guys are just lucky lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 13 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: I don't like Garland's price tag, but I think you underestimate how much he drives the play and how much he gets us on the powerplay. His offensive numbers haven't been as good as I'd hoped for, but he keeps the puck out of our own net. His +/- isn't much different than EP's. Podz has to come up eventually but I'm not sure that he replaces Garland right now. I'm also not sure you find much better for his money than Blueger. Joshua deserves a good raise. Hoping this third line can stay together next year personally. Also, you have DeSmith taking a pay cut from $1.8M/yr. That isn't happening. He's played really well as a back-up this year. I see him getting a small pay bump. Zadorov may not deserve it, but he'll get more money as well as a UFA. Cole taking a $1.5M/yr pay cut won't happen either. PA has some work cut out for himself. He deserved all votes of confidence at this point but he'll also need some help from the players. Lindholm at $6M/yr and EP at $10M/yr, or trading Mikheyev (not unreasonable) would go a long way to keeping this group largely intact. This is why it's so difficult to create a cup contender with a $12M/yr player on your roster. Garland, as much as I like him, and as much as he DOES drive play, is a $4.95m luxury we can't afford on our 3rd line next year if we hope to retain/add better players in our top 6 / top 4. Hoglander can replace 95% of what he does at almost 1/4 the cap hit and we can use that cap space to maintain/improve other parts of the roster. 12 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'd move out Mikheyev++ for a winger rental and let the winger walk in the offseason to make room to re-sign Lindholm. Guentzel anybody?! Can we be that greedy? lol 7 minutes ago, CanuckMan said: I think the move is good also in the sense that if Petey tries to strong arm this team and only signs 1 year to reach UFA status then the Canucks already have a capable 2nd line center in Lindholm that can be signed long term. Lindholm won’t be a rental they’ll find a way to re-sign him even if that means trading Mikheyev. You guys spell Garland weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: And trade Zadorov, but sign the inferior player in Myers? I would just keep both for the playoffs, unless someone makes a stupid offer. I like the D as is Maybe add a depth, cheaper Dman. Maybe a physical, speedy winger if one is available for not too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: And trade Zadorov, but sign the inferior player in Myers? this is next off season BTW... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 14 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: I don't like Garland's price tag, but I think you underestimate how much he drives the play and how much he gets us on the powerplay. His offensive numbers haven't been as good as I'd hoped for, but he keeps the puck out of our own net. His +/- isn't much different than EP's. Podz has to come up eventually but I'm not sure that he replaces Garland right now. I'm also not sure you find much better for his money than Blueger. Joshua deserves a good raise. Hoping this third line can stay together next year personally. Also, you have DeSmith taking a pay cut from $1.8M/yr. That isn't happening. He's played really well as a back-up this year. I see him getting a small pay bump. Zadorov may not deserve it, but he'll get more money as well as a UFA. Cole taking a $1.5M/yr pay cut won't happen either. PA has some work cut out for himself. He deserved all votes of confidence at this point but he'll also need some help from the players. Lindholm at $6M/yr and EP at $10M/yr, or trading Mikheyev (not unreasonable) would go a long way to keeping this group largely intact. This is why it's so difficult to create a cup contender with a $12M/yr player on your roster. I know Lindholm has been off this year offensively but if you look at his scoring over the last few years it is essentially the same as EP's and JTM's and he was second in Selke voting last year. This isn't going to be a $6M player. If we could get him for JT's contract that would be a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Garland, as much as I like him, and as much as he DOES drive play, is a $4.95m luxury we can't afford on our 3rd line next year if we hope to retain/add better players in our top 6 / top 4. Hoglander can replace 95% of what he does at almost 1/4 the cap hit and we can use that cap space to maintain/improve other parts of the roster. You guys spell Garland weird. you are likely right... Garland is the player to go... Mikheyev can score 20 on any line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, HKSR said: Honestly? Not necessarily. It would definitely mean Guentzel is a rental though. Moving out Mikheyev and bringing in Guentzel is +$1.25M on the cap which we can afford. TBH, I can't see Canucks management giving up anymore high draft picks and high-level prospects this TDL. There's Tanev but he's not going to cost an arm and leg as a rental. They already got the guy they need in Lindholm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Some guys are just lucky lol. I don't think his name is on the cup though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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