Jump to content

[Trade] Canucks Acquire Elias Lindholm from Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st and Conditional 2024 4th


Recommended Posts

3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 People are really underestimating Lindholm’s value come playoff time. I think alot of people are going to be proven wrong and have egg on their face. 

 

Wishful thinking! 

I'm as hopeful as the next guy here but Lindholm is a bum! Giant bustaroo of a trade..  It happens. Not the first, won't be the last.

  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:


Blueger isn’t an elite 3C. He was even scratched last playoffs with Vegas. Blueger is an elite 4C, which is where he will be for the playoffs. We also needed a right shot centre. Kesler was a right shot. So was Linden. 
 

Yes, we paid a high price for a 3C. But Lindholm is an elite 3C. The best in the NHL as he’s really a 2C on a lot of teams.  Sure, we could have traded for Nic Dowd. But Dowd is a massive downgrade on Lindholm. Also, Lindholm is effective on the PP. so he will show his value there as well. And he is an elite PK’er and one of the best faceoff guys in the NHL. 
 

People are really underestimating Lindholm’s value come playoff time. I think alot of people are going to be proven wrong and have egg on their face. 

sure but bluegar is a capable 3c. we don't need an "elite" 3c when we are struggling elsewhere that's not a priority.. the way our offence have struggled since the all star break.. the way our offence have been going for the last 2 months now.. it's almost game over if a team scores 3 against us.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

sure but bluegar is a capable 3c. we don't need an "elite" 3c when we are struggling elsewhere that's not a priority.. the way our offence have struggled since the all star break.. the way our offence have been going for the last 2 months now.. it's almost game over if a team scores 3 against us.

 

The games will be much tighter in the playoffs.  Blueger has never been an elite 3C.  He’s not even really an elite 4C.  He was the 5C with Vegas last year.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

The games will be much tighter in the playoffs.  Blueger has never been an elite 3C.  He’s not even really an elite 4C.  He was the 5C with Vegas last year.  

sure i don't disagree. but the plan wasn't for lindholm to be a 3c.. he was brought in to play in the top 6 except he couldn't that's the only reason why he's in the 3c spot bringing in square peg for round holes again and then putting him elsewhere coz it's backfiring. he's not playing 3c coz we have other top 6 out playing him and bumping him down.. if that was the case? no issue.. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/2/2024 at 7:08 PM, N4ZZY said:

missed an opportunity to get some value back for Kuzmenko, probably could've gotten some youth returning. The trade is looking worse by the day. Lindholm's productivity since being acquired hasn't been good. He hasn't performed offensively, but has been good defensively when he's healthy, and that's not looking great at the moment either. He may not even dress for the Canucks in the postseason. 

 


He’s on the 3rd line with Lafferty and Mikheyev. How is he going to perform offensively?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:


Blueger isn’t an elite 3C. He was even scratched last playoffs with Vegas. Blueger is an elite 4C, which is where he will be for the playoffs. We also needed a right shot centre. Kesler was a right shot. So was Linden. 
 

Yes, we paid a high price for a 3C. But Lindholm is an elite 3C. The best in the NHL as he’s really a 2C on a lot of teams.  Sure, we could have traded for Nic Dowd. But Dowd is a massive downgrade on Lindholm. Also, Lindholm is effective on the PP. so he will show his value there as well. And he is an elite PK’er and one of the best faceoff guys in the NHL. 
 

People are really underestimating Lindholm’s value come playoff time. I think alot of people are going to be proven wrong and have egg on their face. 

 

God, so we paid a 1st rounder for this? If he's an elite 3C, he has been badly miscast then. Even on a deep roster, he is floundering. (Granted, he sounds like he had been injured for some time and he was possibly used as a bargaining chip against Pettersson)

 

For the sake of the Canucks, I sure as hell hope Lindholm proves to be worth it. If we don't win playoff games with a HEALTHY Lindholm, this trade is terrible and I don't know what else you'd need to see this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, PureQuickness said:

 

God, so we paid a 1st rounder for this? If he's an elite 3C, he has been badly miscast then. Even on a deep roster, he is floundering. (Granted, he sounds like he had been injured for some time and he was possibly used as a bargaining chip against Pettersson)

 

For the sake of the Canucks, I sure as hell hope Lindholm proves to be worth it. If we don't win playoff games with a HEALTHY Lindholm, this trade is terrible and I don't know what else you'd need to see this.

We didn’t pay anything for Lindholm. The cost to dumperoo Cruise Missile (clearing his contract for this season and next) was a first and a third. The two prospects aren’t NHL level guys. They are nothing. 
Considering these facts, what exactly did we actually pay for Lindholm? Absolutely nothing. He came free. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

We didn’t pay anything for Lindholm. The cost to dumperoo Cruise Missile (clearing his contract for this season and next) was a first and a third. The two prospects aren’t NHL level guys. They are nothing. 
Considering these facts, what exactly did we actually pay for Lindholm? Absolutely nothing. He came free. 


How can you say the 2 prospects aren’t NHL level guys? Do you have a magic ball? So many players make it to the NHL that weren’t even drafted. I’m sure a lot of people that get paid to make assumptions must have said “oh that guy won’t make the NHL” only to have to eat their words after. Jurmo probably won’t make it but Hunter has skill. 

  • Cheers 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, CanuckMan said:


How can you say the 2 prospects aren’t NHL level guys? Do you have a magic ball? So many players make it to the NHL that weren’t even drafted. I’m sure a lot of people that get paid to make assumptions must have said “oh that guy won’t make the NHL” only to have to eat their words after. Jurmo probably won’t make it but Hunter has skill. 

As a matter of fact …

04E881A2-A05C-4FC8-8591-A673D7E9F840.jpeg.d7430298c326944d1794d0b6ea7c25be.jpeg

  • Haha 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

that's a massive price to pay for a "3C" again the bluegar joshua garland line was doing fine and bluegar was doing fine in that "3C" role... why change something that is working? the garland line was basically dominating other team.. so they decide to add something to change it up? or they want to force either EP lindholm or miller to play wing? if that's the case then again should have gotten a winger instead of forcing players to play out of their position. sure we got lindholm for the "playoff" but if he's playing 3c 4c in the playoff.. that's a massive L.. coulda found an actual 3c 4c for much cheaper.. right now almost every all the lines ain't working because of all the tinkering


exactly why change when everything was working fine 

just add another top 6 winger like Toffoli and give up just 1st or 2nd 

 

bad management and vision 

 

Edited by occ78
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, occ78 said:


exactly why change when everything was working fine 

just add another top 6 winger like Toffoli and give up just 1st or 2nd 

 

bad management and vision 

 

I love when people who know next to nothing think they know better then the professionals. Reminds me of kids who think they know better then their parents, it's endearing. 

Edited by MeanSeanBean
  • Cheers 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, occ78 said:


exactly why change when everything was working fine 

None of the moves most management groups make in major sports are done arbitrarily. There's far too much at stake to make these decisions on a whim. 

3 hours ago, occ78 said:

just add another top 6 winger like Toffoli and give up just 1st or 2nd 

Just? Have you considered variables like what Toffoli was looking for? Where he envisioned playing? Realize that Toffoli and Pearson are very close friends and that how Pearson left Vancouver was less than ideal. Might have played into Tyler's choice. 

3 hours ago, occ78 said:

bad management and vision 

While you're obviously welcome to your opinion, as is anyone, passing judgment without having a full view of what transpired behind the scenes, might come across as reactionary and uninformed. I think Canucks management has done a very good job, methodically going after specific types of players that a solid team needs to be successful. Are they perfect? No. Nothing is.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, MeanSeanBean said:

I love when people who know next to nothing think they know better then the professionals. Reminds me of kids who think they know better then their parents, it's endearing. 

Because no gms ever make a mistake or bad call right

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, Conscience said:

Because no gms ever make a mistake or bad call right

Holy massive leap, Batman. Mistakes happen. But calling it bad management or vision is ridiculous. The Lindholm trade was in no world bad vision, even if it hasn't worked out yet. 

 

Something not working out doesn't equate to a bad call. They are 2 completely separate things.

  • Cheers 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said:

None of the moves most management groups make in major sports are done arbitrarily. There's far too much at stake to make these decisions on a whim. 

Just? Have you considered variables like what Toffoli was looking for? Where he envisioned playing? Realize that Toffoli and Pearson are very close friends and that how Pearson left Vancouver was less than ideal. Might have played into Tyler's choice. 

While you're obviously welcome to your opinion, as is anyone, passing judgment without having a full view of what transpired behind the scenes, might come across as reactionary and uninformed. I think Canucks management has done a very good job, methodically going after specific types of players that a solid team needs to be successful. Are they perfect? No. Nothing is.


 

I don’t study nhlers  personal life and relationships like you do 

 

Canucks had something going before the trade 

it’s best to leave the group as is instead of making moves like this and break that chemistry 

in this case, major overpayment 

Edited by occ78
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, occ78 said:


 

I don’t study nhlers  personal life and relationships like you do 

I don't study NHL players personal lives. This is well known information. It's what called getting your facts straight before writing something. 

5 minutes ago, occ78 said:

Canucks had something going before the trade

it’s best to leave the group as is instead of making moves like this and break that chemistry 

in this case, major overpayment 

Simple take on a complex issue. You have little idea as to what precipitated that trade. Zero 

  • Cheers 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, occ78 said:


 

I don’t study nhlers  personal life and relationships like you do 

 

Canucks had something going before the trade 

it’s best to leave the group as is instead of making moves like this and break that chemistry 

in this case, major overpayment 

So Kuzmenko is reason we dont play now like before.Or these 2 kids who never played for team.Or first round pick played better for us then Calgary?What you going to say if we win because of him?You going to say ,oh i eat crow.No integrity?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Screw said:

I love Lindy and hope they resign the guy.   He is quality and just hasn’t shown how good he is with Vancouver yet.

 

So 1 x 1 as a show me deal ? 🤑

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...