aGENT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Lock said: Not to mention, we have Hughes and Hronek when it comes to moving pucks around. That's also partially why I prefer Zadorov: he brings things to the table we don't have otherwise. I'd prefer to have both personally. In fact, I hope that's what we see next year (if this TDL isn't in the cards). Tanev would be an EXCELLENT vet stop gap while Willander develops (on top of keeping Zad). They'd likely even make a good pairing. Edited January 30 by aGENT 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, BPA said: Crosby has 50pts in 47 games. He has never gone below a ppg. It’s a sure bet for this season and next that he will continue being a ppg. Thats 2 good chances at the cup. Crobsy is to the Pens what the twins were to us, He's not going anywhere and will prob retire a Pen. Plus he's already got his cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'd prefer to have both personally. In fact, I hope that's what we see next year (if this TDL isn't in the cards). Tanev would be an EXCELLENT vet stop gap while Willander develops (on top of keeping Zad). They'd likely even make a good pairing. I think a shutdown pair of Cole - Tanev would be insane too. I imagine those two could match against anyone during the playoffs and eat some serious hard minutes. Then that puts Zadorov - Myers back together, but their mins would be the lowest of the 3 pairs by a long shot. Maybe Kuzmenko for a 2nd to Chicago and then flip that and add to it to get Tanev? Than they can activate Soucy before the playoffs and have the deepest Defense ever in Canucks history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I wouldn't sell low on Kuzmenko, but that's just me. If/when he gets going again, his skill is a critical for our top 6. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, awalk said: I wouldn't sell low on Kuzmenko, but that's just me. If/when he gets going again, his skill is a critical for our top 6. I do agree, maybe we’re better off trading Mikheyev in the offseason? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, RockemSockem said: I do agree, maybe we’re better off trading Mikheyev in the offseason? Yeah exactly or maybe someone will bite on Garland after a solid season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, awalk said: Yeah exactly or maybe someone will bite on Garland after a solid season True about Garland but I’d almost like to keep him now if it’s possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Cap dump Mik use that for Lindy Keep in mind, Lindy is the Lames #1 C, 32 pts in 49 games, is a minus 8 and a UFA, who could walk and lose for nothing. We are not desperate. We shouldn't be selling the farm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 37 minutes ago, The Lock said: Not to mention, we have Hughes and Hronek when it comes to moving pucks around. That's also partially why I prefer Zadorov: he brings things to the table we don't have otherwise. Yeah other teams are really going to be scared of Tanev in the playoffs!!!! When Petey is getting punched in the head after the whistle I doubt Tanev is coming to the rescue. Big Z allows are team to play "bigger" and not shy away from the rough stuff. Tanev is old and done. Wouldn't give up anything to get him. Big Z is night and day better! Edit - Also wth was that Don Taylor bit about rumblings Z isn't meshing well in the room? Load of crap that is, the guy has been extremely well liked and popular with his teammates everywhere he's been. He has fought for Petey and stuck up for our players. Guys love that. Terrible take trying to stir the pot and I actually like Donnie. Edited January 30 by Outsiders 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, awalk said: I wouldn't sell low on Kuzmenko, but that's just me. If/when he gets going again, his skill is a critical for our top 6. People keep saying this, but his value isn't going to go up. It'll only go down the further we move away from his 39 goal season. He's not a fit for the team and hasn't been a fit no matter what we've tried. They've been trying to get him going literally all year. I don't think there's this magical moment where things are going to click. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, JeremyCuddles said: People keep saying this, but his value isn't going to go up. It'll only go down the further we move away from his 39 goal season. He's not a fit for the team and hasn't been a fit no matter what we've tried. They've been trying to get him going literally all year. I don't think there's this magical moment where things are going to click. Yeah could be the case. His skill is still very evident when he actually uses it though. I wouldn't hold out hope that he ever gets back to the 39 goals level of trade value, but I do hold out hope that he could be very effective in the lineup again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 16 minutes ago, Outsiders said: Yeah other teams are really going to be scared of Tanev in the playoffs!!!! When Petey is getting punched in the head after the whistle I doubt Tanev is coming to the rescue. Big Z allows are team to play "bigger" and not shy away from the rough stuff. Tanev is old and done. Wouldn't give up anything to get him. Big Z is night and day better! Edit - Also wth was that Don Taylor bit about rumblings Z isn't meshing well in the room? Load of crap that is, the guy has been extremely well liked and popular with his teammates everywhere he's been. He has fought for Petey and stuck up for our players. Guys love that. Terrible take trying to stir the pot and I actually like Donnie. Don Taylor is old and bitter now. He was on the blow it up bandwagon last year and was always going at it with Dhaliwal. I used to love Don Taylor, he just seems like an old grumpy man these days. Hopefully I don't get like him when I'm his age... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, awalk said: Yeah could be the case. His skill is still very evident when he actually uses it though. I wouldn't hold out hope that he ever gets back to the 39 goals level of trade value, but I do hold out hope that he could be very effective in the lineup again I am with you, ideally we move Mikheyev to find cap for a true 2C. But I dunno. I think even with the way Kuzy is playing, the fact he only has 1 year left on his deal and has had a 30 goal season. He probably still carries far more trade value than Mikheyev. If we want to improve the roster the only real trade option is Kuzy, and the sooner the better. Probably for both parties. I think Kuzy would really benefit from a new situation, ideally one where the coach isn't more of a hard nosed two way guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 A brief check at the game logs showed Kuz still got 20g when Rick Tocchet was named head coach in Jan 2023. Who were Kuz linemates last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo5789 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I'm curious, what kind of moves did the most recent Cup winners make? I have a feeling that not many made big splashes and the teams that did fizzled out early in the playoffs. Team chemistry is important and our success right now is thanks to the guys we have now. If we make any moves, I'd like to either have a player that will be here for more than just a playoff run or not pay through the roof and add some depth role players instead of the big fish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I don't think JR is looking to do anything big guys. Like a piece or two added with no major pieces going out. As to trading Zadorov or Kuzy I don't think its on the table. Like maybe just maybe I could see Kuzy but no way to Zadorov. As to Kuz I just cannot see a GM trading an asset before you even know what you have. Kuz has a really high ceiling and I dont think GR is going to trade Kuz until we have a complete valuation on him. Is he a regular 30 goal guy or 50? There is huge difference in the possible return and besides I love the guys character. I'm thinking more along the lines of Tanev and one or two more support players. I would love to see Jamie Ben come on this team. Imo it would be the perfect thing to gel it all together. For me if Im GM: Im taking a swing at getting Jamie Ben on this team Dallas would do it because the core is shifting. We could use his swagger and I think him and Miller would Gel with Boeser. Im getting Tanev or Chychrun. Then im hunting for 1 or two more checking/energy players. We need another rogue like Garland a Rutuu or Cooke type that can score and serve a role on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Theo5789 said: I'm curious, what kind of moves did the most recent Cup winners make? I have a feeling that not many made big splashes and the teams that did fizzled out early in the playoffs. Team chemistry is important and our success right now is thanks to the guys we have now. If we make any moves, I'd like to either have a player that will be here for more than just a playoff run or not pay through the roof and add some depth role players instead of the big fish. Vegas acquired Barbashev and Blueger. Colorado acquired Manson, Lehkonen, Cogliano, and Sturm Depth is key however those teams already had deeper top 6’s than we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Vegas acquired Barbashev and Blueger. Colorado acquired Manson, Lehkonen, Cogliano, and Sturm Depth is key however those teams already had deeper top 6’s than we have. We have our bottom six depth, its the remove and replacing of Kuzmenko that is the only thing that should happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo5789 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Vegas acquired Barbashev and Blueger. Colorado acquired Manson, Lehkonen, Cogliano, and Sturm Depth is key however those teams already had deeper top 6’s than we have. None of those guys were the big fish at the time were they? Barbashev, Manson and Lehkonen are examples of guys that stayed longer than being a playoff rental which is what I was alluding to if we are looking to move assets. And I don't think any of them took really big contracts. Blueger, Cogliano and Sturm are all depth guys. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd probably stay away from guys like Lindholm and Tanev because they are short term solutions that will cost too much to acquire and it may not pan out that well in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/27/2024 at 12:34 PM, BabychStache said: Ok ok. Let’s play armchair never gonna happen scenario: to Van: Crosby to Pitts: Kuz+ 24 1st + Lekkerimaki/Willander. This will only work if Sid goes to Dubas and requests this personally to get a shot at another cup. Petey - Miller - Boeser Hog - Crosby - Lafferty/Suter Garland-Blue-Joshua Mik- Suter/Laff- Aman Thats a handful!! Would like 1 nasty 4th liner for depth. There must be a better option… than giving away your future… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, Chickenspear said: Trade for our new 2C... Bo Horvat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, Johnny said: We have our bottom six depth, its the remove and replacing of Kuzmenko that is the only thing that should happen Yeah we need someone who is more defensively sound goes into the dirty areas willingly comes up with the puck… A beast of a player who has some offensive upside… Kuzmenko needs to be replaced for sure if we wanna go deep in the playoffs - if he doesn’t buy into the system completely, he’s gotta go… Might need to acquire another defenceman for depth… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Yeah we need someone who is more defensively sound goes into the dirty areas willingly comes up with the puck… A beast of a player who has some offensive upside… Kuzmenko needs to be replaced for sure if we wanna go deep in the playoffs - if he doesn’t buy into the system completely, he’s gotta go… Might need to acquire another defenceman for depth… See i dont see the need for a defenseman is strong enough to move a player for. Basically if we get an upgrade on Kuz there isnt enough room unless we overpay for the other team to retain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Johnny said: See i dont see the need for a defenseman is strong enough to move a player for. Basically if we get an upgrade on Kuz there isnt enough room unless we overpay for the other team to retain You can never have 2 many d men… D wins cups… especially Big D… that’s what she said… Edited January 30 by I.AM.THE.WALRUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 41 minutes ago, BPA said: A brief check at the game logs showed Kuz still got 20g when Rick Tocchet was named head coach in Jan 2023. Who were Kuz linemates last year? Mikheyev and Petey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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