zduck14 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Looking through the cap space now, as long as Soucy is on LTIR until the playoffs (Tampa Bay or Vegas style), we should be able to add another top 6 forward or top 4 dman. My preference would be Vatrano and/or Tanev. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Most of this will hinge on if Brzustewicz pans out and if we resign Lindholm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCheese Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 this to me id an overpayment Kuzy and our D prospect + shouldve been enough they better have a signing in place for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) I just see this as 1st and Hunter B for Lindholm which is super fair for a 1st / 2nd line Center. Kuzmenko was a free asset that didn’t fit in the line up anymore. Yes, we risk Hunter B turning into something special, but we likely have 10+ years of Hughes left, which makes him obsolete since you can only have so many small puck movers in your backend. Look at Rathbone who we thought was going to be something great. Also, having a star right-handed center man is going to be huge for this club, especially if we’re going deep into the playoffs. Injuries aside, we should be contending for the cup this year. Edited February 1 by Integra250 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 Just now, DeNiro said: The same people that said we overpaid for Miller and Hronek? The good ol "Miller is a 3rd liner." What a time to be alive. 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 Canucks fans are mind boggling sometimes. Instead of getting excited for going on a run they’re clamouring over prospects they just learned about months ago… Anyone who doesn’t realize we just improved our roster big time is lost. 8 1 1 5 2 4 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Assuming the 1st is definitely going to be that late is premature. Looked what happened to a historically productive Boston team last year. A 1st round exit isn't likely, but a possibility Bostons pick ended up being 28th overall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, BPA said: There’s only so much cap space to go around. Canucks have EP, Hronek, Zad, Lindholm, Joshua, etc. Something has got to give. It's the cost of success. If they play well, we gotta pay up or they walk. If they suck, we let them walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Ilunga said: I have to disagree brother, what has happened in the past has nothing to with this particular trade. If we don't win the cup and Lindholm doesn't resign with us, then we have given up a very promising RHD, they are precious things, a puck moving D-man who is in track for 87 assists alone this year. A first rounder in a draft where after the top ten at most, this draft is a lottery, that pick has the chance to be a solid pick, even picking later. I have put a lot of effort in studying prospects for this draft, as I have for the last few years. There is one particular player I am really hoping that will slip due to injury. Admittedly Kuzzy has been a disappointment this year however he was rounding out his game. As for Jurmo, for sure he doesn't seem to be panning out yet. So if we don't resign him and we don't win the cup, what have we gained ? Experience! Whether we win the cup or not, in the latter case, we at least know where we stand. If coach and management figure Lindholm is worthy to resign, then I'm sure they'll do there best to get 'er done. This is the reward that was promised by management to our players. A player of significant skill and talent to augment our roster. Something that helps them. I'm in no doubt that this'll be the case. There's no guarantee with moves like this. You make moves of this type to give your team a better chance to succeed. With both JR/PA extended, and no doubt RT extended at some point, we're in a good place to get another kick at the can or two if it doesn't happen this season. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if management has intentions of another move aside from this Lindholm surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Maniwaki Canuck said: Didn't want Lindholm based on current form but if he can find his previous level of play here then I;m fine with the price. Our pro scouting will have assessed where he's at in a pretty bad environment in Calgary so I defer to their judgment. Even if he's mainly a shutdown, faceoff and pk guy at this stage, that's still a more useful palyer than Kuz has been for us this year. If he can fit in in PP1 and play with Petey, it's a win. Not worried about an extension,just how it works out for this year. He'll be much better here. He'll play with better players and have less responsibility I expect him to get back to Selke form Ike he was last 2 seasons. Top 10 in Sleke voting last 2 season. 2nd and 10th. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, BPA said: There’s only so much cap space to go around. Canucks have EP, Hronek, Zad, Lindholm, Joshua, etc. Something has got to give. Giraffe, Mik... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, zduck14 said: Looking through the cap space now, as long as Soucy is on LTIR until the playoffs (Tampa Bay or Vegas style), we should be able to add another top 6 forward or top 4 dman. My preference would be Vatrano and/or Tanev. Having Calgary, and a 3rd team retain some cap would work too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Very similar value to what the Islanders paid us for Horvat. Lindholm is a good player and I'm excited to see how he fits on the team, but it is a big price. Do we know the conditions on the 4th round pick yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Canucks fans are mind boggling sometimes. Instead of getting excited for going on a run they’re clamouring over prospects they just learned about months ago… Anyone who doesn’t realize we just improved our roster big time is lost. Especially on a position we're kind of weak on. This fixes that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 The worst part about this trade is I have to restart my Canucks franchise that I just started. I tried to trade for Lindholm in game but they hate me. So I grabbed Kopitar and we won the cup anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Drive-By Body Pierce said: Having Calgary, and a 3rd team retain some cap would work too. Not every NHL team is into 3 ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Provost said: We know that the lotto line is a bullet in the chamber, so I will be interested to see the mixing and matching Tocchet does to see who has chemistry. To me it is either give Petterson a new top winger, or have Lindholm anchor a 2nd line to take on tough matchups and also score. I would try: Miller-Petterson-Suter Mikheyev-Lindholm-Boeser There is a chance that a new centre could spark Mikheyev who still hasn’t looked right or meshed with the existing guys. Good thing it's only Feb. They will have time to gel and figure out what work. Lidholm is versatile. Center, wing, PP, PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Integra250 said: I just see this as 1st and Hunter B for Lindholm which is super fair for 1st / 2nd line Center. Kuzmenko was a free asset that didn’t fit in the line up anymore. Yes, we risk Hunter B turning into something special, but we likely have 10+ years of Hughes left, which makes him obsolete since you can only have so many small puck movers in your backend. Look at Rathbone who we thought was going to be something great. Also, have a star right-handed center man is going to be huge for this club, especially if we’re going deep into the playoffs. Injuries aside, we should be contending for the cup this year. Hunter B has Tony Deangelo upside. If he reaches his potential I’ll be more than fine taking this swing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Diamonds said: Very similar value to what the Islanders paid us for Horvat. Lindholm is a good player and I'm excited to see how he fits on the team, but it is a big price. Do we know the conditions on the 4th round pick yet? Signs with the Canucks? Canucks make it to the 3rd Round? Just some ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: And what if these assets lose value in that time? Our window finally opens and fans still think stockpiling prospects will get us closer to a cup. At some point you gotta spend to improve your team. Do you know who doesn’t give a damn about the price we just paid? The players because they just got a big confidence boost from management. Also too many people assuming this value is based on him being a rental. That’s not a guarantee at this point. He very well could re-sign here. Kuzy's 5.5 and Blueger's 1.9 is prettyn well there to re-sign Lindy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, MJDDawg said: I don’t disagree, but it’s a short term win imo given he’s a rental. Canucks will be in a bind this off season with all the pending UFA’s, Petey’s contract extension and all that effing dead cap money from OEL’s buyout that will kick in. Cheap prospect depth is still the currency in the NHL so this is steep price. I don’t see them being able to resign him so this may truly be a be a one and done season. I hope not but… I hear you and that's a concern for sure. If we were a WC team this deal would have a totally different vibe. But when you're in the mix for the President Trophy you have to make serious moves imo - Allvin just put the league on notice that he's serious! Not to mention he's given the coaching staff AND the players zero excuses from this point, he's done his job (further fine-tuning notwithstanding), now it's up to the team to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Not every NHL team is into 3 ways Their loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Especially on a position we're kind of weak on. This fixes that. They might even be able to sign him for the contract they were offering Bo… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 54 minutes ago, The Duke said: Jurmo and the 4th are throw-ins but it’s a good deal for Calgary as well, especially if Kuz bounces back. We landed a 3rd for Beau and that helped land Zad. They could get a lot more than that if Kuz rounds back into form. We’re landing a really good *right handed* two way ace centre. We didn’t give up Willander, Lekkerimaki or Raty. Or Hoglander. Or Podkolzin. Hard to complain about that We got a 5th for Beauvillier It was still the right move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, zduck14 said: Looking through the cap space now, as long as Soucy is on LTIR until the playoffs (Tampa Bay or Vegas style), we should be able to add another top 6 forward or top 4 dman. My preference would be Vatrano and/or Tanev. Playoffs start mid April. IIRC Soucy is do back towards the end of February.... Can't fudge that for 1.5-2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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