I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I gotta admitted I’m glad The Kuz missile is gone - his off-season decision to go to Bali proved that he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer… He totally pissed off management with his asinine off-season decision… and never really got out of the dog house… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Sergiomomesso said: Remember people. Injuries happen also. What if JT or EP go down for a while? Now we have a legit 1-2 C who can fill in without depending on Suter or Blueger when they are perfect where they are slotted in atm. This is exactly it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Sad Kuzy is traded but it looks like an improved team for this playoffs I was hoping Kuzy would come around but it was taking him a bit too long to figure out the systems. His head knows he needs to go in hard on the forecheck but the body won't react. He played the role of F1 recently in that he was the first Canuck player to go in after the puck but as he got close to the goal line, he would slow down and glide into the boards and would the defensemen retrieve it first. He didn't have the strength to pin someone and out muscle a d and win the puck back either so despite going in on the forecheck, he wasn't coming out with the puck whereas small guys like Hogz and Garly come out with it all the time. So do big guys like Joshua. Hunter B was super hyped here and he's putting up tons of points. At the same time, he was left off world Jr's for USA and he wouldn't get a sniff of PP time here as long as quinn is running the blue line. Which then begs the question, how is Hunter B's defence? Is it NHL level? What is his floor and ceiling as a normal defensemen and not a PP specialist? Would he make the team in that case as a 4-6D? Late first will prob be an nhl player but how good? Kuz I think is a good player. Right now even as a Canuck Homer, there is definitely risk in the deal as there are 3 pieces (Kuz, Hunter and a 1st) that could blow up in our face. The real question is, is EL better than each of those 3 pieces? If that's the case I'm fine with it. EL > Kuz Hunter may not even crack our top 6 for many years behind Hughes, Hronek, Zadorov, Soucy, Cole, Willander, D EP 1st round could be good or he might not be.... I'd say it's a fair deal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventy7 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, Jaimito said: Toffoli. He played with Lindholm before and with EP in the playoffs. Actually I agree. Toffoli for Mikheyev could work. Open up more cap for next season… potentially extending Lindholm if he’s a good fit, which I expect he will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rip The Mesh Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 That's lingo I can understand. Really liked what this dude said.. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 26 minutes ago, Sergiomomesso said: How so? a one time 39 goal scorer who couldn’t hit the side of a barn this year, cant backcheck or make the simple play playing less than 12 minutes a game? While raking in 5.5 million a mid round Dman who won’t get any PP time as long as Quinn is here. Who couldn’t crack team USA. a late 1st round pick who might never even make the NHL. and Joni Jurmo who will never play in the league either I dunno about anyone else but I am tired of watching shit hockey and it’s time to make the push. Yep. Time to make a push.....for the cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Seventy7 said: Actually I agree. Toffoli for Mikheyev could work. Open up more cap for next season… potentially extending Lindholm if he’s a good fit, which I expect he will be. I don't see the Devils making that trade. He'd be a good idea to try to acquire in the off-season if we plan on retaining Lindholm considering both Lindholm and Petey have chemistry with him. Would have to figure out the cap to make that work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiomomesso Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: I gotta admitted I’m glad The Kuz missile is gone - his off-season decision to go to Bali proved that he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer… He totally pissed off management with his asinine off-season decision… and never really got out of the dog house… If he would have went to train here. He may still be a Canuck 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Rusty Shackleford said: Good lord, we got this guy?? lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, luckylager said: I haven't got to watched him this year, just looking at numbers. I think he looked really lost most of the time last season, but that's imo obv. I hope you're right about his future, but I really don't see him being an option for the current push, unless he's shipped out for another win-now piece. That's all I'm saying Fair enough. But based on how he's been playing this year, I believe he should be given a shot. The guy plays like a bull in a china shop. We don't currently have a power forward like him. I believe he's ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 19 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: EL is coming off a bad year on a bad team. That makes a little sense. Still has the pedigree over multiple seasons. Kuz is having a bad year on a great team. Coming off one good year on a decent team, last season. The likely low 1st is in the same ballpark as a 2nd. Rarely does a low 1st come back to haunt a team. It’s an acceptable trade risk. Not sure why the A/B prospect rating applies. There are already better players within the system that are far more NHL ready. If you know something about those prospects that I don’t, please share. Personally, I think Brz was the 2nd best defence prospect behind only Willander. The most recent prospect rankings from the Hockey News had Brz as the Canucks #3 prospect behind only Lekkerimaki and Willander. Watching the WJC, D EP didnt look all that good to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: That's lingo I can understand. Really liked what this dude said.. His lingo ripped the mesh! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I wonder if this quiets the inane takes from fucktards like Brough, Taylor, and Friedman regarding Zadorov. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcBrett Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 The Canucks are leading the league and just got a lot tougher to play against. Even if the Canucks cant resign Lindholm, I still dont hate this trade. Its a risk, but its a risk worth taking. Hopefully we can work out a deal to keep him here for at least a couple seasons. As for what we gave up, Jurmo and the conditional pick are nothing. Not to knock Jurmo, but he isnt an irreplaceable piece. What will likely be a late 1st isnt too bad either, this is the right time to trade a 1st, every contender does this. I guess its just been a while since the Canucks were contenders, everyone has probably forgotten what its like. Brust is the tough pill to swallow, loved the kids game this year. However, we already have a small offensively minded dman tearing up the league. Rathbone struggled to get meaningful pp time over Hughes and now add in Hronek. It would be tough to utilize Brust's skillset with such competition for minutes. Two way and defensive minded dmen will be the guys best suited to complement Hughes and Hronek. Tho, I still think if you were to trade Brust that you would do so in a trade that brought in someone you are certain will be here a while. We will have to see if Lindy will stay beyond this year. I suppose one thing we as fans wont know is what other teams were offering. Brust may have been the only prospect deemed tradeable that could convince Clagary to trade Lindy to us rather than the competition. As for what we got. I really like Lindholm, and I have always liked what I have seen when we played Calgary. Seems a dependable guy that can be utilized in all situations, exactly what Tocc wants in a player. I really think the system here will suit Lindholms game, and assuming he will likely have Petey and Mik on his wings, theres also a good chance his offensive might improve. It is safe to say that Kuzy at his best and Lindholm and his best both provide similar offensive production but Lindholm provides much better dzone play. This trade means the Canucks have improved one of their biggest weaknesses' (defensive play) and have done so without sacrificing offense. The big question is if he resigns and how much he would want. Like I said, I dont hate this trade if he doesnt resign. Heck, if the Canucks actually won the cup I wouldnt care who does or doesnt resign. If we dont, however, we will certainly be the losers of this trade if Lindy doesnt resign. I believe in calculated risks, and Allvin has made some good ones. He deserves an opportunity to show us what he can make of this team. Im pumped for the first game back after the ASG, but honestly a little nervous too. Expectations were already getting high, and now after a pricey trade to land a pivotal piece like Lindholm, expectations will be sky high, but Im all here for that. Go Canucks Go!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Junkyard Dog Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) You know if we manage to re-sign Lindholm it might be a really good idea to go after Toffoli in the off-season. Lindholm had great chemistry with him last year and Petey has in the past as well. It potentially would give us a line that can produce better than Mik-Petey-Kuz did last year while being a defensive force at 5v5. Edited February 1 by Junkyard Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, fanofvan said: Personally, I think Brz was the 2nd best defence prospect behind only Willander. The most recent prospect rankings from the Hockey News had Brz as the Canucks #3 prospect behind only Lekkerimaki and Willander. Watching the WJC, D EP didnt look all that good to me. I hear ya. However, #3 behind the likes of Will and Lek isn’t something the team ought to lose sleep over. They still have Will and Lek, and Hughes, Hronek, Juuls, and UFA and trade acquisitions down the road. Was Brz likely to make the team 4-6 years from now? Maybe. Does Lindholm give the franchise a better shot at making a run than what Brz could potentially pan out to be? See my point? It’s a no brainer. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) According to CapFriendly, we have $1,866,250 in cap space with 22 players. So we have room to add one more player. If the other team retains 50%, we can trade for a player up to $3.7 million. If we get a 3rd team involved, then we can actually trade for a player up to $7.4 million. We can still add one more top 6 forward and even a depth defenceman... Edited February 1 by Elias Pettersson 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Hammertime said: Leads the league in goals 5v5 per 60 I would say Hog is forcing his way. Love Hogs but he is also playing against weaker competition. I like the idea of Garland and Hogs being the drivers on lines three and four. EP, Lindholm, and Mik should form a strong shut down line with significant offensive upside while playing against the other team's best. To me, Hogs has found his ideal role for this year...could very well change next year. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Trade deadline is March 8th. Canucks got their guy a month earlier. To work out the kinks and see what else is needed for the team to go deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) So does this mean that the Lames will have no player reppin' them in the ASG, Doesn't one from each team get at least one? Edited February 1 by Canuck You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sharpshooter Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Please don’t listen to random Twitter comments to base your views or understanding of this trade. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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