Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, DeNiro said: That being said they could wear sombreros on their heads and I wouldn’t care if they’re winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 31 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: Jason Bukata's piece today speculates on a couple of Trade targets (for Canucks) and the price to acquire them: *** Note: according to CapFriendly Sean Monahan's remaining Daily Cap Hit is : $889,115 1) To Vancouver: Adam Henrique (expiring contract paying $5.85M AAV) To Anaheim: Andrei Kuzmenko and one of Vancouver’s fourth-round picks in 2024 *Note: Vancouver also retains $800,000 of Kuzmenko's cap. Other factors to consider in this potential trade is that Kuzmenko has a 12-team no-trade list in his contract, while Henrique has a 10-team no-trade list. 2.) To Vancouver: Sean Monahan To Montreal: Aatu Raty, a fourth-round pick in 2024 (via New Jersey) and Vancouver's sixth-round pick in 2024 *Note: Montreal retains $900,000 of Monahan's cap hit That's awful for SM, imo. In no way, imo, should they move raty........they have no real C prospects outside of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, J-23 said: Too early to trade Hunter, unless we are getting a very very good player with term or an RFA. He's making history right now. Penguins are still in the playoff race, if they are selling, I would rather trade for Crosby to be honest. The very best at making the wingers around him better players. Also his face-offs will be big for this team in a playoff series. As for Hoglander, I hope the team signs him to a medium-term deal this off-season if he's interested. He is going to start putting up better numbers once he gets on that 2nd line and his time on the ice goes up. It could be as early as this season or next season. lol, the Penguins are not trading Crosby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, stawns said: That's awful for SM, imo. In no way, imo, should they move raty........they have no real C prospects outside of him SM barely moves the needle for us and would not hold up in the playoffs.. Pass for that price. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, DeNiro said: SM barely moves the needle for us and would not hold up in the playoffs.. Pass for that price. Agree completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 13 minutes ago, stawns said: That's awful for SM, imo. In no way, imo, should they move raty........they have no real C prospects outside of him I would tend to agree, wasn't my proposal. LOL I think they might have something in Max Sasson...but pretty thin after that IMO. Max Sasson is .70 PPG player in Abby while Raty is a .62 PPG player, Ceiling for in Raty seems higher but his skating needs work to play at the next level.. JMO 2 years difference in age as well. Edited January 24 by Blitz-Pix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 The only Stanley Cup we need! Go Canucks Go! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, stawns said: That's awful for SM, imo. In no way, imo, should they move raty........they have no real C prospects outside of him The biggest concern about Monahan is that he's fragile, the guy is always injured...He's the offensive version of Tanev. LOL What's the point in trading for a guy that's injury prone, especially a rental that you're giving up good assets to aquirre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, stawns said: That's awful for SM, imo. In no way, imo, should they move raty........they have no real C prospects outside of him Raty doesn’t play centre in Abby. He’s been playing left wing for most of the year. I’m not sure if he will be a centre at the NHL level. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Raty doesn’t play centre in Abby. He’s been playing left wing for most of the year. I’m not sure if he will be a centre at the NHL level. I was going to mention that, he hasn't been playing Center for awhile now. I just saw the lineup for the Abby game tonight and he's playing wing on the 3rd line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 minute ago, Blitz-Pix said: I was going to mention that, he hasn't been playing Center for awhile now. I just saw the lineup for the Abby game tonight and he's playing wing on the 3rd line. Yes, he’s been playing left wing on the 3rd line for awhile now. Sasson centres the 2nd line and has looked real good lately. I would say he is our top centre prospect right now. Edited January 24 by Elias Pettersson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes, he’s been playing left wing on the 3rd line for awhile now. Sasson centres the 2nd line and has looked real good lately. I would say he is our top centre prospect right now. Center is a position we need to address in the coming draft.... Or target in a trade (prospect for prospect) We are pretty thin...I believe the Canucks liked Sasson and he impressed at training camp (from what i remember) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 27 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: Center is a position we need to address in the coming draft.... Or target in a trade (prospect for prospect) We are pretty thin...I believe the Canucks liked Sasson and he impressed at training camp (from what i remember) sorry I am a bit puzzled. We have more centers than LW or RW, which is why we have centers playing on wings. Please, just even look at the canucks roster. Never mind ab baby canucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 51 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: Center is a position we need to address in the coming draft.... Or target in a trade (prospect for prospect) We are pretty thin...I believe the Canucks liked Sasson and he impressed at training camp (from what i remember) He's had injury issues this year I think, but has played pretty well I think. I don't think he's as versatile as AR, but he's got promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 minutes ago, Tusk said: sorry I am a bit puzzled. We have more centers than LW or RW, which is why we have centers playing on wings. Please, just even look at the canucks roster. Never mind ab baby canucks. There's C and then there's players who can actually play C at the NHL level. They're short on those prospects 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, Tusk said: sorry I am a bit puzzled. We have more centers than LW or RW, which is why we have centers playing on wings. Please, just even look at the canucks roster. Never mind ab baby canucks. If the Lotto line plays together (Petey and JT), we have Blueger, Suter and Aman. We'll need a pipeline of centers as we'll probably lose Blueger to FA. Suter is signed for 1 more year then he's a UFA I was looking ahead and suggesting we should be targeting (through draft or trades) young skilled centermen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: If the Lotto line plays together (Petey and JT), we have Blueger, Suter and Aman. We'll need a pipeline of centers as we'll probably lose Blueger to FA. Suter is signed for 1 more year then he's a UFA I was looking ahead and suggesting we should be targeting (through draft or trades) young skilled centermen. I said look at the roster dumbass. I bolded the centers for you. Out of the 13 forwards, 8 of them are centers. Forwards Player # Pos Sh Ht Wt Born Birthplace Nils Aman 88 C L 6′2″ 179 Feb 7, 2000 Avesta, SWE Teddy Blueger 53 C L 6′0″ 185 Aug 15, 1994 Riga, LVA Brock Boeser 6 RW R 6′1″ 208 Feb 25, 1997 Burnsville, Minnesota, USA Conor Garland 8 RW R 5′10″ 165 Mar 11, 1996 Scituate, Massachusetts, USA Nils Hoglander 21 LW L 5′9″ 185 Dec 20, 2000 BOCKTRäSK, SWE Dakota Joshua 81 C L 6′3″ 206 May 15, 1996 Dearborn, Michigan, USA Linus Karlsson 94 C R 6′1″ 178 Nov 16, 1999 Eksjö, SWE Andrei Kuzmenko 96 LW R 5′11″ 194 Feb 4, 1996 Yakutsk, RUS Sam Lafferty 18 C R 6′2″ 205 Mar 6, 1995 Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA Ilya Mikheyev 65 RW L 6′2″ 192 Oct 10, 1994 Omsk, RUS J.T. Miller 9 C L 6′1″ 218 Mar 14, 1993 East Palestine, Ohio, USA Elias Pettersson 40 C L 6′2″ 176 Nov 12, 1998 Sundsvall, SWE Pius Suter 24 C L 5′11″ 179 May 24, 1996 Zurich, CHE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 minutes ago, Tusk said: I said look at the roster dumbass. I bolded the centers for you. Out of the 13 forwards, 8 of them are centers. Forwards Player # Pos Sh Ht Wt Born Birthplace Nils Aman 88 C L 6′2″ 179 Feb 7, 2000 Avesta, SWE Teddy Blueger 53 C L 6′0″ 185 Aug 15, 1994 Riga, LVA Brock Boeser 6 RW R 6′1″ 208 Feb 25, 1997 Burnsville, Minnesota, USA Conor Garland 8 RW R 5′10″ 165 Mar 11, 1996 Scituate, Massachusetts, USA Nils Hoglander 21 LW L 5′9″ 185 Dec 20, 2000 BOCKTRäSK, SWE Dakota Joshua 81 C L 6′3″ 206 May 15, 1996 Dearborn, Michigan, USA Linus Karlsson 94 C R 6′1″ 178 Nov 16, 1999 Eksjö, SWE Andrei Kuzmenko 96 LW R 5′11″ 194 Feb 4, 1996 Yakutsk, RUS Sam Lafferty 18 C R 6′2″ 205 Mar 6, 1995 Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA Ilya Mikheyev 65 RW L 6′2″ 192 Oct 10, 1994 Omsk, RUS J.T. Miller 9 C L 6′1″ 218 Mar 14, 1993 East Palestine, Ohio, USA Elias Pettersson 40 C L 6′2″ 176 Nov 12, 1998 Sundsvall, SWE Pius Suter 24 C L 5′11″ 179 May 24, 1996 Zurich, CHE Do you realistically see them using any of Joshua, Karlsson or Lafferty as long term Centers to carry a line? To take a draw or emergency short term help sure but not to carry a line all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Blitz-Pix said: Do you realistically see them using any of Joshua, Karlsson or Lafferty as long term Centers to carry a line? To take a draw or emergency short term help sure but not to carry a line all season. Yeah I do. Joshua should be centering Kuz and Mik right now instead of suter. Lafferty is totally capable as well. The main point is Petey shouldnt be on a wing, he is the 2C. If they wanna keep this "lotto" bullshit up, they should move Dak up. Its not going to make garly & blueger less effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, DeNiro said: SM barely moves the needle for us and would not hold up in the playoffs.. Pass for that price. I wonder about that though. Is there some bias because he's an ex-flame for some people? He's played fairly well in Montreal the last couple years from most accounts, and has looked good in the handful of games I've seen. It feels like he might actually have something to offer if playing in the playoffs again. He was a quite good player before getting derailed with injuries. This seems like a fairly low cost move if something more substantial doesn't come along. His face off % is 56.4 and he's taken a whopping 672, just outside the top 25 overall. Crosby with a whopping 1015 AND 59.3% . Raty is not a throw away but he's the type of player that gets moved at the TDL for help. By Allvin's comments you would have to think they'll be doing something. 2 hours ago, Blitz-Pix said: The biggest concern about Monahan is that he's fragile, the guy is always injured...He's the offensive version of Tanev. LOL What's the point in trading for a guy that's injury prone, especially a rental that you're giving up good assets to aquirre? Yeah that does seem to be the case, however he did play 75,81,81,82,74,78,70, before going 50,65,25, in his last 3 years. This year he's played 47 of 47 games. To be honest that's really not to bad at all for an NHL player who has played 782 games and is 29 years old. It's quite possible he just had a couple flukey injuries and is now back to full health. He's over 6'2, over 200 lbs. and plays with a bit of snarl. Also has a good hard shot ... and no I'm not his agent. I wouldn't be opposed if something better is out of our price range. Edited January 24 by Gawdzukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Tusk said: I said look at the roster dumbass. I bolded the centers for you. Out of the 13 forwards, 8 of them are centers. Forwards Player # Pos Sh Ht Wt Born Birthplace Nils Aman 88 C L 6′2″ 179 Feb 7, 2000 Avesta, SWE Teddy Blueger 53 C L 6′0″ 185 Aug 15, 1994 Riga, LVA Brock Boeser 6 RW R 6′1″ 208 Feb 25, 1997 Burnsville, Minnesota, USA Conor Garland 8 RW R 5′10″ 165 Mar 11, 1996 Scituate, Massachusetts, USA Nils Hoglander 21 LW L 5′9″ 185 Dec 20, 2000 BOCKTRäSK, SWE Dakota Joshua 81 C L 6′3″ 206 May 15, 1996 Dearborn, Michigan, USA Linus Karlsson 94 C R 6′1″ 178 Nov 16, 1999 Eksjö, SWE Andrei Kuzmenko 96 LW R 5′11″ 194 Feb 4, 1996 Yakutsk, RUS Sam Lafferty 18 C R 6′2″ 205 Mar 6, 1995 Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA Ilya Mikheyev 65 RW L 6′2″ 192 Oct 10, 1994 Omsk, RUS J.T. Miller 9 C L 6′1″ 218 Mar 14, 1993 East Palestine, Ohio, USA Elias Pettersson 40 C L 6′2″ 176 Nov 12, 1998 Sundsvall, SWE Pius Suter 24 C L 5′11″ 179 May 24, 1996 Zurich, CHE You're the dumbass. First of all they were very clearly talking about center prospects. Second of all Joshua isn't a center dumbass. He's averaged 59 faceoffs a year in his career. 3rd Lafferty isn't even playing center full time, he's a fourth liner at best, and Aman is a second year NHLer just fighting to stay in the league. 4thly, Karlsson is not even an NHLer and would likely play wing if he ever made it. He's taken 8 faceoffs in his life. And fifth, as was mentioned Blueger and Suter are veteran bottom 6 players with short term deals. I am simply amazed and baffled that people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about firstly decide to make a post about it, and then I'm even more blown away that someone that clueless would actually attempt to insult someone else regarding the same subject they know absolutely nothing about. It's hilarious and mind-boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 29 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: You're the dumbass. First of all they were very clearly talking about center prospects. Second of all Joshua isn't a center dumbass. He's averaged 59 faceoffs a year in his career. 3rd Lafferty isn't even playing center full time, he's a fourth liner at best, and Aman is a second year NHLer just fighting to stay in the league. 4thly, Karlsson is not even an NHLer and would likely play wing if he ever made it. He's taken 8 faceoffs in his life. And fifth, as was mentioned Blueger and Suter are veteran bottom 6 players with short term deals. I am simply amazed and baffled that people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about firstly decide to make a post about it, and then I'm even more blown away that someone that clueless would actually attempt to insult someone else regarding the same subject they know absolutely nothing about. It's hilarious and mind-boggling. No youre the dumbass. I know i am also, but Joshua? why is he being held back? is this RACISM? Discrimination? Get the fucking guy a chance to show what he does. I was just pointing out that we have 8 centers in the current roster, and only 5 of them have been allowed to play the role. Petey needs to take a line. He aint no sidekick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, spook007 said: I was just listening to the interview with Iain McIntyre... He wants them to go all in, and I can understand that. However, what if they fall flat on their faces? what are they going to supplement the team with next season, or even worse, once the next contracts hits, who are going to fill the spaces... The press are the first to slaughter the team, when they are not doing well, button they want to sell everything for a run?... With Cap issues coming up, if they make a move, it should be for 'cheap' rental, or a player with a good contract, they can fit into the team for years ahead... I'll use the first, and a few depth players, but I'd be weary of letting players like Kuz leave, unless Tocchet has given up on him, which I don't think is the case... (could be show casing him, but doubt it)... So there will be the big issue of cap space... not an easy job to improve this team... I would move Mik out of anyone. Kuz will rebound like Boes and like Hogs, Guaranteed. Our coaches are that good. Mik has a wonky knee. He's going to morph into a really good 3rd line pk, defensive checker. Mik's contract should ideally be put on ltir. For his sake and for ours. Mik would be great insurance for the playoffs. We should be banking cap space for the TD. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Cole Beaudoin, Barrie Colts, Bob Mac projects 30th. 6'2" 206 lbs. Left Handed Centre, 35 points in 39 games. Trade down and go after C Julius Miettinen, Bob Mac ranked #59 6'2" 205 lbs, 42 Points in 45 games for Everett in the WHL. Edited January 24 by Ghostsof1915 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Cole Beaudoin, Barrie Colts, Bob Mac projects 30th. 6'2" 206 lbs. Left Handed Centre, 35 points in 39 games. An Aman with muscles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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