kettlevalley Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: We can go ever the projected cap by 10% in the offseason, no? See attached. Going over cap not a worry at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 24 minutes ago, RJCF96 said: Only way we can outbid teams is by going 8 years. For example, Boston or another team gives him 8 million x 7 seasons. That's $56 million total. We can give him the 8th year, and offer him 7 million x 8 seasons for the same amount. We save $1 million in cap-space per season. We can also offer him $7.5 million x 8, which will give him $60 million total, and we save $500k in cap. Can other clubs negotiate with Lindy before July 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJCF96 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Can other clubs negotiate with Lindy before July 1? I don't think they can officially anymore. They removed it a few years ago. However, nothing stops them from happen to see Lindy and his agent at a coffee shop, and let's share a few donuts together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 hours ago, Alflives said: We can go ever the projected cap by 10% in the offseason, no? That's right just need to be compliant on regular season game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just another point of view. Maybe there's something to it. Maybe not. Ever since I was a kid I've heard the term "You can't have too many centers". I'm starting to think it may be better not to pursue signing Lindholm to another cap crusher. The very best of the Canucks season was before he got here. 7 + 7 or more is not a path I think the Canucks should take. + he can't drop em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Buzzsaw- Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 For the Canucks to not be able to sign Lindholm... would mean they pissed down the toilet a 1st rounder and multiple players including Kuzmenko... just moronic. That would be a colossal failure of management... frankly I think they should not have done the trade without an lock on an extension deal being signed with Lindholm... You can throw away first rounders on the "possibility" of a Cup run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 9 Popular Post Share Posted June 9 (edited) 3 hours ago, -Buzzsaw- said: For the Canucks to not be able to sign Lindholm... would mean they pissed down the toilet a 1st rounder and multiple players including Kuzmenko... just moronic. That would be a colossal failure of management... frankly I think they should not have done the trade without an lock on an extension deal being signed with Lindholm... You can throw away first rounders on the "possibility" of a Cup run. I don't know if we would have even beat Nashville without him. He was that good for us. The Kuzmenko trade was smart in that it cleared more cap space for THIS coming season. If in the event, say, we were to make a push for Jake Guentzel, we would have even more of the cap needed to do get it done; and it would even more probable if Lindholm indeed tests the market. What I will say about Lindholm is that he helped us level up when it mattered the absolute most. Again, I'm not absolutely positive the Canucks would had the opportunity to gain that invaluable experience of making it to Round 2 without him. The trade freed up cap space (the best asset there is), and allowed the Canucks to continue their growth as a core that is still quite young. I think it will be an interesting summer, because even if they don't retain certain guys, they still have plenty of cap space to make more happen via other avenues. Add in the wrinkle the Hronek is an RFA, and if they choose not to allocate x amount of dollars towards him, he can be moved for another asset. Even if we do not have all the leverage in the situation, he is still incredibly valuable on the market as a 26-year old top-4 D-man. My point is, I do not think we necessarily 'threw away' our 1st. If anything, it helped level up our level of respectability around the league, as we produced excellent results taking the Oilers to the 7th game. People know we are good now, and that will change certain players' perspectives when considering the Canucks. When the summer is said and done, I think we might end up appreciating Lindholm for him having had a profound impact on the decisions that this team's brass made! This is how you build a winning culture. Edited June 9 by Herberts Vasiljevs 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -AJ- Posted June 9 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 9 3 hours ago, -Buzzsaw- said: You can throw away first rounders on the "possibility" of a Cup run. This mentality is precisely how never to succeed. You need to sacrifice futures to do everything you can at a chance when you have a real chance. Allvin saw a chance and took it. It didn't work out in the end, as is the case with most of these. Only one team wins each year, yet many sacrifice futures to better their chances at winning. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 23 hours ago, -AJ- said: This mentality is precisely how never to succeed. You need to sacrifice futures to do everything you can at a chance when you have a real chance. Allvin saw a chance and took it. It didn't work out in the end, as is the case with most of these. Only one team wins each year, yet many sacrifice futures to better their chances at winning. Exactly... don't hang around and wait for the "perfect" day, as they rarely appear, and you've missed the bus... We bowed out in game 7 without our stating keeper, our leading scorer and a Petey playing less than his stellar self... These things you can't legislate for... Had Oilers lost out one of their core players, McD playing less than stellar and Draisaitl or Hyman been injured it could just as well have been us playing Panthers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Sadly that is the cost of a rental these days but we paid a bit extra because we acquired Lindholm earlier on in the season. He was pretty trash all season long so really we spent those assets for what...13 playoff games. Hurts, but every good team does this - they spent a first + player + prospect for a top player to play from the TDL and playoffs and then that's often it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Sadly that is the cost of a rental these days but we paid a bit extra because we acquired Lindholm earlier on in the season. He was pretty trash all season long so really we spent those assets for what...13 playoff games. Hurts, but every good team does this - they spent a first + player + prospect for a top player to play from the TDL and playoffs and then that's often it. Lindholm came free. The cost to dumperoo all of Cruise Missile was a 1st and a 4th. The two prospects are both long shot NHLers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Lindholm came free. The cost to dumperoo all of Cruise Missile was a 1st and a 4th. The two prospects are both long shot NHLers. Kuzy banana can shoot the puck, which is what Petey needs for a partner. Unfortunately that's all Kuzy did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Kuzy banana can shoot the puck, which is what Petey needs for a partner. Unfortunately that's all Kuzy did. Yup. I’m hoping we keep Lindy Hop. He’s not a one dimensional player. If he’s not putting up points he still does a lot to help the club win. Face offs, PK, hard to play against, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Yup. I’m hoping we keep Lindy Hop. He’s not a one dimensional player. If he’s not putting up points he still does a lot to help the club win. Face offs, PK, hard to play against, etc. Have to wait I guess like you said for the buyout window to open before other GMs want to make moves, but I would like us to start inking our ufas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Just now, Bob Long said: Have to wait I guess like you said for the buyout window to open before other GMs want to make moves, but I would like us to start inking our ufas. Yup. What if PLD shakes loose? Or JK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 14 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. What if PLD shakes loose? Or JK? Do we want PLD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Just now, Bob Long said: Do we want PLD? Would depend on the contract, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Just now, Alflives said: Would depend on the contract, no? tbh he seems like an entitled dick. We don't seem to have any of those anymore, not sure I want to add one back in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 48 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Have to wait I guess like you said for the buyout window to open before other GMs want to make moves, but I would like us to start inking our ufas. I suspect there will be some good players bought out and available this summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 6/9/2024 at 1:42 AM, -AJ- said: This mentality is precisely how never to succeed. You need to sacrifice futures to do everything you can at a chance when you have a real chance. Allvin saw a chance and took it. It didn't work out in the end, as is the case with most of these. Only one team wins each year, yet many sacrifice futures to better their chances at winning. As long as it's not 1st rounders every season. I'm pretty they were aware as a UFA he was going to be expensive. I don't think Vancouver expected a bidding war. If that is indeed happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 I know I said otherwise, week or so, that we should lock up Lindholm if they do the 7+ however length it was, 7 was it? Will we still be a tough enough forward group? I'm looking at our forwards and watching how tough it is to win that cup. Miller should not be the only one or two that play the way that's necessary to go four rounds. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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