RockemSockem Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Since we’ve just acquired Elias, in my opinion Allvin will want to extend him and I also think Lindholm will return to form with us. What woukd a possible extension look like? 6-7 years @ 7-7.5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 12 minutes ago, RockemSockem said: Since we’ve just acquired Elias, in my opinion Allvin will want to extend him and I also think Lindholm will return to form with us. What woukd a possible extension look like? 6-7 years @ 7-7.5? Extend Lindholm in the unlikely event that negotiations with Pettersson go south. Outside of that however, I’m not sure if the Canucks will be able to extend Lindholm given our cap constraints. Lindholm just may very well be our 2020 Toffoli (ie this was around the time when Thomas Drance was inhaling the sphincter of Judd Bracket). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I think they'll take a wait-and-see approach, given the vast number of pending UFAs and RFAs we have to deal with. However, I imagine the market for him will be between $6.5M and $7.5M on a long term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Extension will completely depend on how he plays. He obviously won't be in any rush. The dilemma here is if he plays super well or super poorly. Either he will want a big payday if he plays super well, or he plays super poorly and we just let him walk. The starting price is going to be $6.5M minimum. Anything less is crazy talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManbeastMARK Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Did he not turn down $8M+ from Calgary already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Yeah I agree with 6.5 - 7.5. I can see 6 years 7 mil if he plays well. In my opinion this trade was made with a possible extension in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Didn’t Calgary offer him 8.5 by 8 years and he turned it down? Maybe he takes less here because of the chance to win. Lock him in for 7x7! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Just now, flickyoursedin said: Didn’t Calgary offer him 8.5 by 8 years and he turned it down? Maybe he takes less here because of the chance to win. Lock him in for 7x7! Yeah I think they did and he bet on himself. Lucky for us Calgary isn’t a very good team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Guys, I'm seriously concerned about his metrics. For those who haven't read this article: https://canucksarmy.com/news/why-vancouver-canucks-should-not-trade-flames-elias-lindholm That isn't a trend I'm interested in extending for right now. As mentioned, it's insurance as a 1c if talks with Petey can't come to fruition as well - but no need to rush it. Play it out, give him another taste of being on a good, contending team and if the stars align and the cap gods allow, perhaps an extension will be in order after the cup is hoisted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Reznor said: Guys, I'm seriously concerned about his metrics. For those who haven't read this article: https://canucksarmy.com/news/why-vancouver-canucks-should-not-trade-flames-elias-lindholm That isn't a trend I'm interested in extending for right now. As mentioned, it's insurance as a 1c if talks with Petey can't come to fruition as well - but no need to rush it. Play it out, give him another taste of being on a good, contending team and if the stars align and the cap gods allow, perhaps an extension will be in order after the cup is hoisted. Ideally, Lindholm is not a LE - a guy who had a solid career before joining the Canucks. My guess is life in CGY was getting stale. Both of Lindholm's linemates from his best season also left. It sounds like a lot of the team was disenchanted after last season, even after Sutter was canned. This season, a lot of their top players struggled to start the year, and like 90% of their D core are UFAs. They even recently lost a relatively decent prospect on waivers. It just feels like the team doesn't have much direction, notwithstanding an admirable effort to at least get back into an OK position for the playoff race. I'm not holding my breath for Lindholm to light the world on fire offensively, but he should at least help the team have another solid line that they can roll out and could pair well with EP (with Mikheyev as the speedy forechecker). Coming to a very competitive team (and one with a lot of Swedish connections!) might help Lindholm regain passion for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 19 minutes ago, ManbeastMARK said: Did he not turn down $8M+ from Calgary already? It's CALGARY....wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Yeah I really think it was playing in Calgary. Time will tell but I can really see him fitting in well here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 12 minutes ago, RockemSockem said: Yeah I really think it was playing in Calgary. Time will tell but I can really see him fitting in well here. I haven't seen line up speculation yet. Let's try Suter Miller Boeser Pettersson Lindholm Mikheyev I mean, give Lindy a really good winger and what happens? I bet there's a production bump. I also bet there's a PK bump as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Just now, Crabcakes said: I haven't seen line up speculation yet. Let's try Suter Miller Boeser Pettersson Lindholm Mikheyev I mean, give Lindy a really good winger and what happens? I bet there's a production bump. I also bet there's a PK bump as well Agreed, I think just playing with Pettersson will bring him back to top 6 form. Top 6 next season after we win the cup. Trade Mikheyev in the offseason. Joshua Miller Boeser Pettersson Lindholm Hoglander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I'm off topic above but as far a re-signing Lindholm, he's a support player, not core so let's not get confused. Petey has to go first. That much is clear. Next would be Hronek (but he's RFA), then Lindholm? But we have to give him a chance to show us something. But all dominoes fall after Petey signs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, ManbeastMARK said: Did he not turn down $8M+ from Calgary already? Yeah, in Calgary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockemSockem Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 13 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: I'm off topic above but as far a re-signing Lindholm, he's a support player, not core so let's not get confused. Petey has to go first. That much is clear. Next would be Hronek (but he's RFA), then Lindholm? But we have to give him a chance to show us something. But all dominoes fall after Petey signs 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Crabcakes said: I'm off topic above but as far a re-signing Lindholm, he's a support player, not core so let's not get confused. Petey has to go first. That much is clear. Next would be Hronek (but he's RFA), then Lindholm? But we have to give him a chance to show us something. But all dominoes fall after Petey signs Definitely. EP40, Hronek, then after that sign or replace Cole/ Lindholm/ DeSmith, etc. and let Myers walk. The hierarchy is clear, and they need to prioritize the core while filling the fringes with cheap players like other contenders do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Dare I say we break up our 3rd line and promote Joshua? Joshua Lindholm Pettersson Suter Miller Boeser Hoglander Blueger Garland Bains or TDL p/u Aman Lafferty Joshua is the forechecker/protector for the Swedes. One more trade with Calgary anyone… Canucks get Tanev Flames get Mikheyev and Linus Karlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, ManbeastMARK said: Did he not turn down $8M+ from Calgary already? But did he turn down 8M or Calgary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Didn’t Calgary offer him 8.5 by 8 years and he turned it down? Maybe he takes less here because of the chance to win. Lock him in for 7x7! Little Johnny turned down 10.5 to go to Columbus for 9.5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 So - how do we arrange our top 6 now that Lindholm is here? Pettersson-Miller-Boeser Suter-Lindholm-Mikheyev Suter-Miller-Boeser Mikheyev-Pettersson-Lindholm etc. Personally? I go with the Lotto Line + make the Lindholm/Suter/Mikheyev line a shut down line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Johnny said: But did he turn down 8M or Calgary? His representation made it clear he was looking at the 8m - 8.5m range based on other center signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Jeremy’s “win now and build for the future plan,” (I probably wouldn’t do the following but it has crossed my mind). 1) Trade for Rasmus Andersson (Myers + Willander). 2) Win 2024 Stanley Cup 3) Extend Lindholm in the off season 4) Trade Pettersson for a boatload of picks and prospects so that we avoid a $10.5+ million dollar contract. We make a massive push to win the cup this year but we also keep filling the pipeline. Edited February 1 by Jeremy Hronek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixonWard Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 From what I can see, it looks like we will have about 38 mil next year in space, plus 2.5 mil LTIR from Poolman. If EP wants to win, as he says. EP 11.5 X 8 EL 8.5 X 8 FH 7.5 X 7 NZ 4.75 X 4 TB 2.5 X 3 This puts us at 34.75 with 3.25 plus 2.5 LTIR remaining. We have Podz, Raty, Bains, and Karlsson looking to take a step next year to fill in some of those forward roles. The following year we might have Lekkerimaki, Willander, DPetey available as well as about $4-6 mil more in cap space. It all looks doable to me now that Kuz and Beauvillier's salaries are gone and the cap is finally going up. In Alvin I trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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