Captain insano Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Given his status, can the Nucks sign Phil after the TDL? Would his signing still count against the salary cap or # of players on the teams? Anyone know? https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/coyotes-will-get-their-phil "Rick Tocchet, nicknamed ‘the Phil Kessel Whisperer’ for his unique relationship with the quirky star, says the winger is going to be fine addition to the Coyotes locker room." “You know, not everybody is the same,” the coach told AZ Central this week when Kessel was acquired from Pittsburgh, Tocchet’s old team. “To win a Stanley Cup, you need different personalities. I’m not sure you can win with all the same. (Phil) had a personality in the dressing room that was infectious to Crosby, Letang, Malkin, all those guys." “Phil has a personality of his own. He marches to his own drum like a lot of different guys. It’s just more publicized being in Toronto (where Kessel led the team in scoring, but detested the spotlight).” “Phil’s a great person and a generous guy,” Tocchet said. “His teammates love him. Honestly, he’s a normal guy. He loves hockey and he’s a closet hockey nerd, although he doesn’t tell many people that. He really follows the game. He’s a guy that the young guys are going to like. He loosens up the dressing room. “It’s not that he wants to prove anyone wrong because people throw daggers at him, it’s just that he hates the noise. His play will shut the noise up, as it has in the past.” This was my first thought, it’s not about being a roster player night in and night out it’s about bringing in a glue guy that has the experience that can fill holes here and there and have potential hot streaks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I really don't get it. I know he's a bit of a unicorn but Phil Kessel is not the type of player that would fit well under the current forechecking system. We're not seeing this guy on the first PP unit so he's only really going to play 5v5. The only thing he has going for him is that he's obviously built up a great relationship with Rick Tocchet. But he is getting really old now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 But..but Dhali said we're going after Guentzel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Not expecting much but it's adding depth without giving anything up other than cap space, so seems like a good idea to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Captain insano said: This was my first thought, it’s not about being a roster player night in and night out it’s about bringing in a glue guy that has the experience that can fill holes here and there and have potential hot streaks He can't fill holes or have any streaks if he's ineligible in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, Strawbone said: Who knows, if he's serious about wanting one last shot at playing in the NHL, you gotta think he's kept himself in the best shape possible. And you don't play over 1000 consecutive games in the NHL if you're not in shape. It's not always about looking lean and ripped. Here's perhaps the most dominant guy ever to fight in the UFC who was incredibly strong, agile, and quick. That man was a savage When he was in pride fighting the japanese audience was dead quiet and you could hear his punches echoing as he hit his opponents ribs throughout the stadium. He would just beat on a guys ribs and make him quit. Power indeed. Makes me wince just thinking about taking a hit from him. The only other person in this world that frightens me like that is a guy I used to spar with. His shins were like razor blades. Just blocking him it felt like my skin was cracking open and bleeding lol. I never ever wanted to get kicked full force by that man EVER! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, CaptainCanuck12 said: Has he ever been in good shape though? Kessel has always looked like the Pillsbury doughboy's younger brother. Yet he has been in good enough shape to play 1286 NHL games, scoring 413 goals and 992 points and three Stanley cups. I wouldn't mind adding Phil for the playoffs, but unless there are injuries, I can't see him playing regularly. BUT, he HAS been there and knows what it takes. That kind of presence in the room might be valuable to a team with little or no playoff experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 57 minutes ago, 88Canuck said: While I get the pre-season part vs now to a degree, he’s still a nhl player even though not the player he was years ago. I would say his experience may be more valuable than anything. As I said before, we have that experience in spades including: Tocchet, Gonchar and Foote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 25 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: It’s more on the subject of him joining us than you or your comment in particular. It is ridiculous for the Canucks to sign this guy at this point into the season. Ah okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Canuck Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: As I said before, we have that experience in spades including: Tocchet, Gonchar and Foote. That’s fair, but you also need that with players as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: As I said before, we have that experience in spades including: Tocchet, Gonchar and Foote. That was the big thing I was looking forward to with this coaching staff. They don't mess around and know how to win in the spring. I wouldn't mind Kessel at all on a cheap deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: He can't fill holes or have any streaks if he's ineligible in the playoffs. Why would he be ineligible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 82 games, 14 goals, 22 points and 36 points with the VGK last year playing an average of 12:48 per night. That production is the same as the pace Mikheyev is on this year, but Mikheyev ATOI is 14:44. Laugh all we want, but Kessel is a unicorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Free depth signing, I am meh on this one. Who knows what PA has up his sleeve next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, HKSR said: Why would he be ineligible? If he gets signed after the deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Miss Korea said: If he gets signed after the deadline Oh I didn't actually know that. Guess we'll find out within a month if the Thrill will be a Canuck lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, HKSR said: Oh I didn't actually know that. Guess we'll find out within a month if the Thrill will be a Canuck lol It's because we don't have his rights as a player. We could theoretically sign Willander in April and he'd be good to play - not unlike Luke Hughes last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 It costs us nothing and presumably the cap hit would be low enough to be buried in the minors if he didn’t work out. It wouldn’t limit us on other moves. With Lindholm on the roster we have a bunch of centres and Aman can easily be bumped out of the top four lines to a spare forward. A line of Lafferty-Suter-Kessel could bring some scoring depth if Phil fails in a top six audition. Not a lot of teams can match that as a 4th line and they would have a chance to feast on lower quality opposition and 3rd pairing D. I can imagine bringing him in and seeing what shape he is in before signing. He has the experience and credibility to be another veteran presence in a room with very little playoff experience to lean on. Of course he could just be too far past his prime and not able to keep up with the pace Tocchet wants to play at. As long as his cap hit can be buried the experiment doesn’t hurt us and doesn’t infringe on other moves we might want to make. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulcap Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 No. We'd create a defensive blackhole in our lines for someone far removed from being top six. It would undermine tocchet's message and wrong move. So we'll probably do it because of the pens mythos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy88 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Man, as fun as that would be to have that story line play out...dude is a career -155, even with all those points. We only had 2 minus players, Juulsen and the now traded Kuzmenko. I just can't see him fitting in our style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 It would be pretty crazy to see him get point #1,000 in a Canucks uni. Surefire future Hall of Famer, yes please! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Captain insano said: Ha! I texted this idea into Sat and Riccio a month ago and they ignored it, when they were talking UFA targets. To me it made a ton of sense top 6 scorer 2 cup rings History with Rutherford Cheap as a player waiting Only issue is what kind of shape is he in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN! This season is starting to feel suspiciously like a fever dream. If Aqualini had Benning in the box with him as we hoist the cup I’ll know the simulation is shutting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: It's because we don't have his rights as a player. We could theoretically sign Willander in April and he'd be good to play - not unlike Luke Hughes last year. From what is being said around the team, they want Willander to stay in College one more year, they try to bring him out next year if he keeps progressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Exactly. Phil could care less what the banal dopes think about him. He's won it all more than once, and earned it every time. PLAYOFFS 4 0 2 2 Oh yes he definitely EARNED IT alright. Sure glad he was there for them in those 4 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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