Zimmyparttwo Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 17 minutes ago, Dizzle said: Aho has broke 80 points in a season once. Really good hockey player, but not on the same plane as Petey. Except 80 in Carolina is like 100 here in Van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curmudgeon Posted February 29 Popular Post Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, Slegr said: Friedman talks about multiple sources, when he’s the only one I’ve read that news about involving Carolina. It seems like he’s always wanting to stir the pot in Vancouver. Even if it is true, which it probably is, Friedman would never be allowed to share stories like that about Toronto deals / negotiations on Sportsnet. He’s essentially telling the Canuck fan base, “your team was preparing to get rid of its superstar if he didn’t come to the table to negotiate”. And again, even if true, there are lines Friedman crosses with Canucks that he won’t with Leafs. Any chance Sportsnet has to dump on Canucks (like making the Bruce firing worse than it had to be by breaking Tocchet news way early and then saying Canucks are awful for not firing Bruce earlier), they jump on it. Friedman used to be pretty reliable, but he's become a parody of himself. All the talk jocks like to question him and hang on his every word. The conversation usually goes something like: Q: So there's talk of Player X being unhappy in Vancouver. Friedman: Well, I think you guys want to sign him, but I think it won't be easy. I think the team has looked around to gauge trade interest, but I think it might be premature. Q: Any idea what teams, Elliotte? Freidman: I think maybe there may be a couple of eastern division teams in the mix. You look at what Player X brings and I think there are few teams that can offer anything of his value. Like, I think Montreal might be interested, but I think they'd have a hard time making it work. Q: So, what are the odds the Canucks move him? Freidman: Well, I think it's maybe 50-50, but I think it may not get done at all. So Elliotte has said a lot without saying anything useful. All speculation, all the time. Tell me I'm wrong. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 33 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I don't see Aho, but Car 1st, Kokamaimie (good 3C), Fishboy, Phillys 2nd round pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiskeyPickle Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 My guess on the Canes offer would be: Necas Jarvis 24 & 25 1st for petey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43isprime Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: You don’t fluke your way to back to back 100+ point seasons in the NHL without being a great player. Uh just some context - when Naslund scored 104 in 2003, that was 98% of what Forsberg scored (led the league with 106). Pettersson's 102 pts last year gave him about 66% of what Mcdavid scored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted February 29 Popular Post Share Posted February 29 Some of you need to realize the last time a player of this caliber (referring to Petey) was traded, it was Tkachuk. Coming off a 104 point season as a winger, an RFA... ...he landed a 115 point Huberdeau, a 44 point top 4 RHD, a prospect in Schwindt, AND a 1st. People here think Kotkaniemi, a 1st and maybe a 2nd would lock down Petey?? Good grief. Talk about undervaluing our players and overvaluing other team's players. 4 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) Would have been funny if after all the Miller to Carolina stuff it ended up being Petey instead, just like everyone wanting to trade Miller to keep Horvat ended up seeing Horvat traded instead. Miller's the ultimate Uno reverse card. Edited February 29 by JeremyCuddles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 My guess would be either necas or JK, Jarvis, a prospect and a couple of draft picks, of which one would be a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo5789 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, Dizzle said: I don't think so... but if it was Necas you've got to add another roster player, a first, Morrow and... something else of significant value to even get close. Perhaps, but the point is there is no point in Carolina moving Aho. And I don't see any other significant pieces other than Necas that would be dangled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 19 minutes ago, HKSR said: I disagree completely. There's zero chance Petey would be moved for quantity over quality. Absolutely zero. And what if that's all the market will provide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I'm glad this is happening lets sign our 1C and stop thinking about this. My guess based on the rumors is something around 12.5 million a year for 8 years. Puts him in that top 10 forwards in the league pay range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, stawns said: My guess would be either necas or JK, Jarvis, a prospect and a couple of draft picks, of which one would be a first. I really like Jarvis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Just now, Bob Long said: And what if that's all the market will provide? And what if it's not. I referenced what it looked like the last time an elite RFA was traded (Tkachuk). He even limited calgary to what team(s) he would like to be traded to. Still landed quality and quantity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Theo5789 said: Perhaps, but the point is there is no point in Carolina moving Aho. And I don't see any other significant pieces other than Necas that would be dangled. The point is that Petterson is a superior player and they haven’t gotten over the hump despite being a ‘contender’ for a few years. I agree that Necas would be the next piece up but man they’d have to add a lot to move the needle from there. He just isn’t very enticing at all when you’re talking about a player of Petey’s caliber. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highandinside Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I would rather go for Hughes+ or even Barzal+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Friedman used to be pretty reliable, but he's become a parody of himself. All the talk jocks like to question him and hang on his every word. The conversation usually goes something like: Q: So there's talk of Player X being unhappy in Vancouver. Friedman: Well, I think you guys want to sign him, but I think it won't be easy. I think the team has looked around to gauge trade interest, but I think it might be premature. Q: Any idea what teams, Elliotte? Freidman: I think maybe there may be a couple of eastern division teams in the mix. You look at what Player X brings and I think there are few teams that can offer anything of his value. Like, I think Montreal might be interested, but I think they'd have a hard time making it work. Q: So, what are the odds the Canucks move him? Freidman: Well, I think it's maybe 50-50, but I think it may not get done at all. So Elliotte has said a lot without saying anything useful. All speculation, all the time. Tell me I'm wrong. You're not wrong. But he also has a job to keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 These negotiations have been interesting. I'm wondering if someone in management leaked the trade talks to media to force Petey's hand. But then wouldn't Petey's camp know that? A lot of little games being played here. I find it fascinating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Just now, HKSR said: And what if it's not. I referenced what it looked like the last time an elite RFA was traded (Tkachuk). He even limited calgary to what team(s) he would like to be traded to. Still landed quality and quantity. Did it? Hubie looks like a disaster contract. I'm not interested in finding a hill to die on over it, but a package of young players and prospects back seems most likely to me as what was discussed. But like I said, I think the most likely thing is Rutherford just played everyone back to the table. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Dizzle said: The point is that Petterson is a superior player and they haven’t gotten over the hump despite being a ‘contender’ for a few years. I agree that Necas would be the next piece up but man they’d have to add a lot to move the needle from there. He just isn’t very enticing at all when you’re talking about a player of Petey’s caliber. Exactly. If it's not Aho, they would have to add a helluva lot to match the value of Petey. Necas + Jarvis ++ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, KoreanHockeyFan said: These negotiations have been interesting. I'm wondering if someone in management leaked the trade talks to media to force Petey's hand. But then wouldn't Petey's camp know that? A lot of little games being played here. I find it fascinating. Someone leaked it and it definitely benefits the Canucks. Let’s say they were probably not so keen on keeping it a secret…..Petey must have had an oh shit moment, lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Just now, Bob Long said: Did it? Hubie looks like a disaster contract. I'm not interested in finding a hill to die on over it, but a package of young players and prospects back seems most likely to me as what was discussed. But like I said, I think the most likely thing is Rutherford just played everyone back to the table. You can't look at it now. You have to look at the value at the time. The hockey world was in awe that the 3rd highest scorer in the entire NHL was traded, a bona-fide top 4 (maybe even top pair) RHD, a prospect, and a 1st also included ... all for 1 Matthew Tkachuk. At the time, it was a MASSIVE package of quality and quantity. Kotkaniemi is garbage in terms of value compared to that package moved for an RFA Tkachuk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 49 minutes ago, Jaimito said: Canucks, Pettersson resume negotiations after trade talks with Hurricanes There’s no doubt both Canucks and Pettersson’s camp are making a legit attempt to get this done Elliotte Friedman | @FriedgeHNIC February 29, 2024, 5:50 PM Acording to multiple sources, the Vancouver Canucks and Carolina Hurricanes had discussions about Elias Pettersson that advanced to a stage where both the Canucks and the player needed to make serious decisions about where their relationship was headed. The Canucks ultimately decided in favour of another attempt at extending Pettersson, and he, facing the possibility Vancouver could move him, allowed agents Pat Brisson and JP Barry to resume negotiations. Previously, the talented forward indicated he preferred to wait until after the season. No extension is complete at this time, but there certainly is momentum in that direction, as Daily Faceoff's Frank Seravalli reported Wednesday. Should it be completed, it will allow the Canucks a very clear picture of their future cap situation heading into next week’s trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: Exactly. If it's not Aho, they would have to add a helluva lot to match the value of Petey. Necas + Jarvis ++ and what they have in the pipeline is pretty underwhelming. I just don’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I have all historical stats at my fingertips. The average price of a house in East Vancouver in March 2013 was $947,706. The average price of a house in East Vancouver in January 2024 is $1,928,080. These are just the averages. Depending on the area those numbers could be different. Sorry, it says right there - "Townhouse". How many elite hockey players live in townhouses? And let alone in East Vancouver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Just now, Dizzle said: and what they have in the pipeline is pretty underwhelming. I just don’t see it. Yup, upgrading Aho with the cost of giving up Pesce is the easiest transaction for Carolina without disrupting their team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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