stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, JeremyCuddles said: Was playing with Teuro and Necas for parts of last year and had mid production, now it looks like he's on the 4th line getting almost 60% ozone starts. For reference our current 3C gets 37% ozone starts and has more points. Kotkaniemi at nearly 5mil would be a terrible 3C. And he's proven for years now he's not a top 6 guy either. I'd rather wait for them to buy him out and give em a 2 year deal to see what he can do. The buyout cost is 835k, but it stretches to 35/36. So maybe they don't rush that decision too much. Lol. They aren't retaining more than 800k, and they'd need to retain more than that for me to value him at all. Dude is 2mil overpaid. Minimum. He's proven that at 23 has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 What I see here is a lot of people going by stat lines that actually haven't watched JK play much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Tkachuk Trade: - 100 Point Forward - Top 4 Defencemen - 1st Round Pick The trade needs to start with Svechnikov or Aho. Anyways other teams could make better trades. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, stawns said: He's proven that at 23 has he? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, JeremyCuddles said: Was playing with Teuro and Necas for parts of last year and had mid production, now it looks like he's on the 4th line getting almost 60% ozone starts. For reference our current 3C gets 37% ozone starts and has more points. Kotkaniemi at nearly 5mil would be a terrible 3C. And he's proven for years now he's not a top 6 guy either. I'd rather wait for them to buy him out and give em a 2 year deal to see what he can do. The buyout cost is 835k, but it stretches to 35/36. So maybe they don't rush that decision too much. Lol. They aren't retaining more than 800k, and they'd need to retain more than that for me to value him at all. Dude is 2mil overpaid. Minimum. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Jaimito said: Nazi parody on the contract and media. Don't watch if you are easily offended. Based on the German movie Downfall. Oh man. I haven’t seen this used since 2011. I think this version is even better, lol. Literally LOL’d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 13 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'd take Forsberg over McDavid any day. Prime Forsberg just might be the most underrated legend of all-time. I think many fans forget as to just how good peak Forsberg truly was. Now having said that, I’d probably still take McDavid (22-23 version), but the decision for me would not be easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I bet the people who say "haven't watched X player play" also haven't watched them play but just like the fantasies they drum up in their head. With some EA potential sprinkled in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 100m+? That can't be real? I'd say at that point it's pretty easy to just walk away. Fill your boots Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, J-23 said: Well said. Again, based on stat lines and not really watching him play. Are you under the impression he'd be the focus of a deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, stawns said: What I see here is a lot of people going by stat lines that actually haven't watched JK play much I don’t need to go by stats alone. I just look at what the Hurricanes fans think. They hope he can become a 3rd line centre at least. 5 million dollars and we have to hope the guy can become a 3rd line centre. No thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, JeremyCuddles said: I bet the people who say "haven't watched X player play" also haven't watched them play but just like the fantasies they drum up in their head. With some EA potential sprinkled in. 2nd fave team, watch them every chance I get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, stawns said: JK is a solid players, Jarvis is a legit scorer and who knows about the dman, maybe pesce on condition of signing I just don’t see it as value for Petey. All good players in their own right but not something that moves the needle enough to have a conversation imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, J-23 said: I don’t need to go by stats alone. I just look at what the Hurricanes fans think. They hope he can become a 3rd line centre at least. 5 million dollars and we have to hope the guy can become a 3rd line centre. No thanks. Well he scored 18 last year, is on pace for close to that this year. That doesn't seem like solid 3rd line production? I'd be pretty frickin happy with a 3C that scores 18-20goals, plays a good two-way game, has good size and pretty good in the dot Not sure what you're expecting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, Dizzle said: I just don’t see it as value for Petey. All good players in their own right but not something that moves the needle enough to have a conversation imho. You have to look at it in the bigger picture I guess. Yourd never going to get a Petey level player back for Petey. But they can use that $ to fill several spots instead of one. Depth is key 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, stawns said: Well he scored 18 last year, is on pace for close to that this year. That doesn't seem like solid 3rd line production? I'd be pretty frickin happy with a 3C that scores 18-20goals, plays a good two-way game, has good size and pretty good in the dot Not sure what you're expecting This is a fair point… I think most people have expectations of 2nd liners to produce at an actual 1st line rate and the same for 3rd liners to produce at 2nd line rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Again, based on stat lines and not really watching him play. Are you under the impression he'd be the focus of a deal? No, but he’d be a $4.82m center who could probably be out produced by Raty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, stawns said: Not sure what you're expecting It’s simple really. No cap dumps if there is a Pettersson trade. Anyways Pettersson looks to be signing an 8 year contract with us if the reports are true. I’m happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Dizzle said: This is a fair point… I think most people have expectations of 2nd liners to produce at an actual 1st line rate and the same for 3rd liners to produce at 2nd line rate. It's not JK would be the focal point of any deal. They're not trading oetey for JK in this scenario ........he's the depth throw in and that's pretty good for van, imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, J-23 said: It’s simple really. No cap dumps if there is a Pettersson trade. Anyways Pettersson looks to be signing an 8 year contract with us if the reports are true. I’m happy with that. Cap dump how? He scored 18 last year and will end up with 15-18 this year.......as a 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Sounds like it’ll be $11.5+ x 5-8yrs. My guess is $11.75 x 8yrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, fanofvan said: No, but he’d be a $4.82m center who could probably be out produced by Raty. Or he'd make up a great 3rd line with Raty, giving them solid secondary scoring and two way play for a long time to come 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, stawns said: Or he'd make up a great 3rd line with Raty, giving them solid secondary scoring and two way play for a long time to come Or he’d continue to produce at a pace of 33 points a year while eating $4.82m in cap space. Mikheyev has 6 more points in 2 less games and Canucks fans can’t wait to drive him to the airport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4.8mil 3rd line C, 4.95mil 3rd line RW, and a 4.75mil Mikheyev in the bottom 6. We really just out here saying spend all the cap on bottom 6ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, fanofvan said: Or he’d continue to produce at a pace of 33 points a year while eating $4.82m in cap space. Mikheyev has 6 more points in 2 less games and Canucks fans can’t wait to drive him to the airport. You think 23 is his peak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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