Vaccine thread

[moosehead]

1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

To be honest I think it was more of a joke and I think it's almost a joke. How serious people are taking it. And again, let's remember. I'm born in BC! I'm also there every single summer probably blocks from your house and neither one of us know it. 

 

Obviously was a joke.  I used to live in Edmontona.. Great people there.     Alberta and BC are so closely connected  / intertwined. 

 

Anti covid convoy unfortunately  had support from both provinces.. but pretty clearly some  very dangerous stuff went down in southern alberta at the border crossing. 

Edited October 1, 2023 by moosehead

[moosehead]

Great news. - Flu shot and covid shot.     Sign me up. 

 

Get a COVID-19 vaccine

Getting immunized is the most effective way to stay safe this respiratory illness season. 

 

Starting in October, everyone 6 months and older can get an updated influenza (flu) and COVID-19 vaccine at the same time.

Invitations will be sent by email or text message to everyone who has received a COVID-19 immunization in B.C. The invite will have a direct link to book your COVID-19 and flu appointment online.

The best way to book is to wait for your invitation. If you have received a COVID-19 vaccine in B.C., you’re already registered in the Get Vaccinated system, no action is required.

Invitations will roll out, beginning with priority populations, including:

• Seniors (65+)
• Residents in long-term care facilities
• Indigenous peoples
• Pregnant people
• Health-care workers
• People with chronic health conditions (e.g., cancer, hepatitis C, diabetes)

These vaccines are free and available at pharmacies, health authority clinics and some primary care providers’ offices.

 

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/vaccine/register

Edited October 1, 2023 by moosehead

[Ryan Strome]

17 minutes ago, moosehead said:

 

Obviously was a joke.  I used to live in Edmontona.. Great people there.     Alberta and BC are so closely connected  / intertwined. 

 

Anti covid convoy unfortunately  had support from both provinces.. but pretty clearly some  very dangerous stuff went down in southern alberta at the border crossing. 

I have a feeling I'm talking to King of Surrey! 

[moosehead]

8 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

I have a feeling I'm talking to King of Surrey! 

 

Gotta love a free flu and covid shot.  We are lucky our government is willing to pay for  / invest in these shots.  They are not cheap.  

Edited October 1, 2023 by moosehead

[Ryan Strome]

Just now, moosehead said:

 

Gotta love a free flu and covid shot.  We are look our government is willing to pay for these shots.  They are not cheap.  

Good point. God bless Canada!

That being said however I don't do the flu shot and I did not do the covid shot so if you know anybody that needs those they can have mine.

[D.B Cooper]

1 hour ago, moosehead said:

 

Gotta love a free flu and covid shot.  We are lucky our government is willing to pay for  / invest in these shots.  They are not cheap.  

You know they are spending our money right……. Lol. 
How lucky…

[King Heffy]

10 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

You know they are spending our money right……. Lol. 
How lucky…

A better use of it than treating antivaxxers.

[Ghostsof1915]

12 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

You know they are spending our money right……. Lol. 
How lucky…

Maybe you would like to live in the US, where even with Blue Cross, getting something like cancer can bankrupt you.

No thanks.

 

[D.B Cooper]

26 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Maybe you would like to live in the US, where even with Blue Cross, getting something like cancer can bankrupt you.

No thanks.

 

Nice leap 

[Ghostsof1915]

Just now, D.B Cooper said:

Nice leap 

Not as much as jumping from a plane with $200,000.

[Ryan Strome]

33 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Maybe you would like to live in the US, where even with Blue Cross, getting something like cancer can bankrupt you.

No thanks.

 

Is there only two countries in the world Canada and the United States?

6 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

Nice leap 

Right!

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Not as much as jumping from a plane with $200,000.

Beautiful comeback though I love it!

[Gurn]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/other/nobel-in-medicine-goes-to-2-scientists-whose-work-enabled-creation-of-mrna-vaccines-against-covid-19/ar-AA1hy8ph?bncnt=BroadcastNews_BreakingNews&ocid=UCPNC2&FORM=BNC001&pc=U531&cvid=65819b00c07b4c56a59238ed1a98e17c&ei=13#image=1

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STOCKHOLM (AP) — Two scientists won the Nobel Prize in medicine on Monday for discoveries that enabled the creation of mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 that were critical in slowing the pandemic — technology that's also being studied to fight cancer and other diseases.

Hungarian-American Katalin Karikó and American Drew Weissman were cited for contributing “to the unprecedented rate of vaccine development during one of the greatest threats to human health,” according to the panel that awarded the prize in Stockholm.

The panel said the pair's “groundbreaking findings ... fundamentally changed our understanding of how mRNA interacts with our immune system."

Traditionally, making vaccines required growing viruses or pieces of viruses and then purifying them before next steps. The messenger RNA approach starts with a snippet of genetic code carrying instructions for making proteins. Pick the right virus protein to target, and the body turns into a mini vaccine factory.

But in early experiments with animals, simply injecting lab-grown mRNA triggered a reaction that usually destroyed it. Karikó, a professor at Szeged University in Hungary and an adjunct professor at the University of Pennsylvania, and Weissman, of the University of Pennsylvania, figured out a tiny modification to the building blocks of RNA that made it stealthy enough to slip past immune defenses.

Karikó, 68, is the 13th woman to win the Nobel Prize in medicine. She was a senior vice president at BioNTech, which partnered with Pfizer to make one of the COVID-19 vaccines. Karikó and Weissman, 64, met by chance in the 1990s while photocopying research papers, Karikó told The Associated Press.

WHY DO MRNA VACCINES MATTER?

Dr. Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at Britain’s University of East Anglia, described the mRNA vaccines made by BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna Inc. as a “game changer” in shutting down the coronavirus pandemic, crediting the shots with saving millions of lives.

“We would likely only now be coming out of the depths of COVID without the mRNA vaccines,” Hunter said.

John Tregoning, of Imperial College London, called Karikó “one of the most inspirational scientists I have met.” Her work together with Weissmann "shows the importance of basic, fundamental research in the path to solutions to the most pressing societal needs,” he said in a statement.

The duo's pivotal mRNA research was combined with two other earlier scientific discoveries to create the COVID-19 vaccines. Researchers in Canada had developed a fatty coating to help mRNA get inside cells to do its work. And studies with prior vaccines at the U.S. National Institutes of Health showed how to stabilize the coronavirus spike protein that the new mRNA shots needed to deliver.

Dr. Bharat Pankhania, an infectious diseases expert at Exeter University, predicted the technology used in the vaccines could be used to refine vaccines for other diseases like Ebola, malaria and dengue, and might also be used to create shots that immunize people against certain types of cancer or auto-immune diseases including lupus.

Peter Maybarduk, at the Washington advocacy group Public Citizen, welcomed the recognition of mRNA vaccines, but said the award should also be deeply embarrassing for Western countries.

“This is a technology that should have been available to all of humanity but it was almost exclusively available only in the richest countries in the world,” he said, adding that much of the funding that led to the development of mRNA technology came from U.S. public funds.

HOW DID KARIKÓ AND WEISSMAN REACT?

“The future is just so incredible,” Weissman said. “We’ve been thinking for years about everything that we could do with RNA, and now it’s here.”

Karikó said her husband was the first to pick up the early morning call, handing it to her to hear the news. She then watched the announcement to make sure she wasn't being pranked.

"I was very much surprised. But I am very happy.”

Karikó said she was the one to break the news to Weissman, since she got in touch before the Nobel committee could reach him.

The two have collaborated for decades, with Karikó focusing on the RNA side and Weissman handling the immunology: “We educated each other,” she said.

Before COVID-19, mRNA vaccines were already being tested for other diseases like Zika, influenza and rabies — but the pandemic brought more attention to this approach, Karikó said. It's also being tested for cancer immunotherapy.

“There was already clinical trials before COVID, but people were not aware,” she said.

Karikó's family are no strangers to high honors. Her daughter, Susan Francia, is a double Olympic gold medalist in rowing, competing for the United States.

The prize carries a cash award of 11 million Swedish kronor ($1 million) — from a bequest left by the prize’s creator, Swedish inventor Alfred Nobel. The laureates are invited to receive their awards at ceremonies on Dec. 10, the anniversary of Nobel’s death.

Nobel announcements continue with the physics prize on Tuesday, chemistry on Wednesday and literature on Thursday. The Nobel Peace Prize will be announced Friday and the economics award on Oct. 9.

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This story has been updated to correct that Karikó is a professor at Szeged Uniiversity, not Sagan’s University.

[moosehead]

7 hours ago, Gurn said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/other/nobel-in-medicine-goes-to-2-scientists-whose-work-enabled-creation-of-mrna-vaccines-against-covid-19/ar-AA1hy8ph?bncnt=BroadcastNews_BreakingNews&ocid=UCPNC2&FORM=BNC001&pc=U531&cvid=65819b00c07b4c56a59238ed1a98e17c&ei=13#image=1

"

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Two scientists won the Nobel Prize in medicine on Monday for discoveries that enabled the creation of mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 that were critical in slowing the pandemic — technology that's also being studied to fight cancer and other diseases.

Hungarian-American Katalin Karikó and American Drew Weissman were cited for contributing “to the unprecedented rate of vaccine development during one of the greatest threats to human health,” according to the panel that awarded the prize in Stockholm.

The panel said the pair's “groundbreaking findings ... fundamentally changed our understanding of how mRNA interacts with our immune system."

Traditionally, making vaccines required growing viruses or pieces of viruses and then purifying them before next steps. The messenger RNA approach starts with a snippet of genetic code carrying instructions for making proteins. Pick the right virus protein to target, and the body turns into a mini vaccine factory.

But in early experiments with animals, simply injecting lab-grown mRNA triggered a reaction that usually destroyed it. Karikó, a professor at Szeged University in Hungary and an adjunct professor at the University of Pennsylvania, and Weissman, of the University of Pennsylvania, figured out a tiny modification to the building blocks of RNA that made it stealthy enough to slip past immune defenses.

Karikó, 68, is the 13th woman to win the Nobel Prize in medicine. She was a senior vice president at BioNTech, which partnered with Pfizer to make one of the COVID-19 vaccines. Karikó and Weissman, 64, met by chance in the 1990s while photocopying research papers, Karikó told The Associated Press.

WHY DO MRNA VACCINES MATTER?

Dr. Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at Britain’s University of East Anglia, described the mRNA vaccines made by BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna Inc. as a “game changer” in shutting down the coronavirus pandemic, crediting the shots with saving millions of lives.

“We would likely only now be coming out of the depths of COVID without the mRNA vaccines,” Hunter said.

 

 

Basically the MRNA Vacines have saved MILLIONS of lives and the worlds whole economy. No brainer they get a Nobel Prize.

 

The other option was some nut job that led a bunch of truckers to Ottawa to honk horns  and terrorize the locals...  With huckster  PP and the CDN Con party support......

 

Yes , i think the Vacine scientists deserve  the win.....

Edited October 3, 2023 by moosehead

[bishopshodan]

19 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Not as much as jumping from a plane with $200,000.

[the destroyer of worlds]

42 minutes ago, moosehead said:

 

Basically the MRNA Vacines have saved MILLIONS of lives and the worlds whole economy. No brainer they get a Nobel Prize.

 

The other option was some nut job that led a bunch of truckers to Ottawa to honk horns  and terrorize the locals...  With huckster  PP and the CDN Con party support......

 

Yes , i think the Vacine scientists deserver the win.....

 

And the Covid vaccines are just the start.  Moderna just finished Phase 3 trial of an improved mRNA flu vaccine that should be ready for 24/25 flu season.  There is a pancreatic cancer treatment entering Phase 2 trial.  

[RupertKBD]

At some point earlier ITT, there was mention of a guy in the Okanagan who suffered paralysis after taking the Covid shot.

 

While some posters pointed out the extreme rarity of such occurrences, there was an important point left out. The rare condition that this gentleman suffered from was a reaction to all vaccines....not just Covid.

 

He would have been in the same boat if he had gotten Shingrix or Twinrix shots....

[Ghostsof1915]

35 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

At some point earlier ITT, there was mention of a guy in the Okanagan who suffered paralysis after taking the Covid shot.

 

While some posters pointed out the extreme rarity of such occurrences, there was an important point left out. The rare condition that this gentleman suffered from was a reaction to all vaccines....not just Covid.

 

He would have been in the same boat if he had gotten Shingrix or Twinrix shots....

Just means Anti-Vaxxers will be like "SEE! SEE! It's dangerous!"

[RupertKBD]

Just now, Ghostsof1915 said:

Just means Anti-Vaxxers will be like "SEE! SEE! It's dangerous!"

 

The difference being, virtually all of them who have kids will have gotten them the MMR vaccines when they were infants....

 

Ergo, it's nothing bu hypocrisy....

[the destroyer of worlds]

4 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

 

The difference being, virtually all of them who have kids will have gotten them the MMR vaccines when they were infants....

 

Ergo, it's nothing bu hypocrisy....

Unless they bought into the Andrew Wakefield (no longer a doctor) and Jenny McCarthy vaccines cause autism hype train.

[StrayDog]

1 minute ago, the destroyer of worlds said:

Unless they bought into the Andrew Wakefield (no longer a doctor) and Jenny McCarthy vaccines cause autism hype train.

I'm still waiting for my magnetic powers to kick in. Multiple shots later and spoons still slide right off me.....

[the destroyer of worlds]

1 minute ago, StrayDog said:

I'm still waiting for my magnetic powers to kick in. Multiple shots later and spoons still slide right off me.....

One good thing about that is Sherri Tenpenny had her medical license suspended in Ohio https://elicense.ohio.gov/oh_verifylicensedetails?pid=a0Rt000000084mlEAA

 

She is a big time anti-vaxxer and pushed that magnetic theory.

[Duodenum]

2 hours ago, Gurn said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/other/nobel-in-medicine-goes-to-2-scientists-whose-work-enabled-creation-of-mrna-vaccines-against-covid-19/ar-AA1hy8ph?bncnt=BroadcastNews_BreakingNews&ocid=UCPNC2&FORM=BNC001&pc=U531&cvid=65819b00c07b4c56a59238ed1a98e17c&ei=13#image=1

"

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Two scientists won the Nobel Prize in medicine on Monday for discoveries that enabled the creation of mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 that were critical in slowing the pandemic — technology that's also being studied to fight cancer and other diseases.

Hungarian-American Katalin Karikó and American Drew Weissman were cited for contributing “to the unprecedented rate of vaccine development during one of the greatest threats to human health,” according to the panel that awarded the prize in Stockholm.

The panel said the pair's “groundbreaking findings ... fundamentally changed our understanding of how mRNA interacts with our immune system."

Traditionally, making vaccines required growing viruses or pieces of viruses and then purifying them before next steps. The messenger RNA approach starts with a snippet of genetic code carrying instructions for making proteins. Pick the right virus protein to target, and the body turns into a mini vaccine factory.

But in early experiments with animals, simply injecting lab-grown mRNA triggered a reaction that usually destroyed it. Karikó, a professor at Szeged University in Hungary and an adjunct professor at the University of Pennsylvania, and Weissman, of the University of Pennsylvania, figured out a tiny modification to the building blocks of RNA that made it stealthy enough to slip past immune defenses.

Karikó, 68, is the 13th woman to win the Nobel Prize in medicine. She was a senior vice president at BioNTech, which partnered with Pfizer to make one of the COVID-19 vaccines. Karikó and Weissman, 64, met by chance in the 1990s while photocopying research papers, Karikó told The Associated Press.

WHY DO MRNA VACCINES MATTER?

Dr. Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at Britain’s University of East Anglia, described the mRNA vaccines made by BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna Inc. as a “game changer” in shutting down the coronavirus pandemic, crediting the shots with saving millions of lives.

“We would likely only now be coming out of the depths of COVID without the mRNA vaccines,” Hunter said.

John Tregoning, of Imperial College London, called Karikó “one of the most inspirational scientists I have met.” Her work together with Weissmann "shows the importance of basic, fundamental research in the path to solutions to the most pressing societal needs,” he said in a statement.

The duo's pivotal mRNA research was combined with two other earlier scientific discoveries to create the COVID-19 vaccines. Researchers in Canada had developed a fatty coating to help mRNA get inside cells to do its work. And studies with prior vaccines at the U.S. National Institutes of Health showed how to stabilize the coronavirus spike protein that the new mRNA shots needed to deliver.

Dr. Bharat Pankhania, an infectious diseases expert at Exeter University, predicted the technology used in the vaccines could be used to refine vaccines for other diseases like Ebola, malaria and dengue, and might also be used to create shots that immunize people against certain types of cancer or auto-immune diseases including lupus.

Peter Maybarduk, at the Washington advocacy group Public Citizen, welcomed the recognition of mRNA vaccines, but said the award should also be deeply embarrassing for Western countries.

“This is a technology that should have been available to all of humanity but it was almost exclusively available only in the richest countries in the world,” he said, adding that much of the funding that led to the development of mRNA technology came from U.S. public funds.

HOW DID KARIKÓ AND WEISSMAN REACT?

“The future is just so incredible,” Weissman said. “We’ve been thinking for years about everything that we could do with RNA, and now it’s here.”

Karikó said her husband was the first to pick up the early morning call, handing it to her to hear the news. She then watched the announcement to make sure she wasn't being pranked.

"I was very much surprised. But I am very happy.”

Karikó said she was the one to break the news to Weissman, since she got in touch before the Nobel committee could reach him.

The two have collaborated for decades, with Karikó focusing on the RNA side and Weissman handling the immunology: “We educated each other,” she said.

Before COVID-19, mRNA vaccines were already being tested for other diseases like Zika, influenza and rabies — but the pandemic brought more attention to this approach, Karikó said. It's also being tested for cancer immunotherapy.

“There was already clinical trials before COVID, but people were not aware,” she said.

Karikó's family are no strangers to high honors. Her daughter, Susan Francia, is a double Olympic gold medalist in rowing, competing for the United States.

The prize carries a cash award of 11 million Swedish kronor ($1 million) — from a bequest left by the prize’s creator, Swedish inventor Alfred Nobel. The laureates are invited to receive their awards at ceremonies on Dec. 10, the anniversary of Nobel’s death.

Nobel announcements continue with the physics prize on Tuesday, chemistry on Wednesday and literature on Thursday. The Nobel Peace Prize will be announced Friday and the economics award on Oct. 9.

___

This story has been updated to correct that Karikó is a professor at Szeged Uniiversity, not Sagan’s University.

 

Saved roughly 20 million lives (so far).

 

 

The new technology of mRNA vaccines will also lead to treatments for other conditions (as others have posted). A gamechanger and life saver for a lot of people. 

[Maninthebox]

[Ghostsof1915]

I still can't think of how Pumpkinhead equates Wind Turbines with driving whales crazy.

 

Maybe I just don't want to know how he thinks. He's been baffling from the get go.

[The Arrogant Worms]

They will be sending out invites to the flu shot starting tomorrow I believe starting with the must vulnerable.