Gawdzukes Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Lock said: Well, that honestly could go both ways. If anything, I find it fascinating sometimes the career highs and lows of some players. For all we know, Martin's a starter for some team in 2 years from now. lol Maybe I would never say never ... but I haven't seen a worse performance from a goalie in probably 20 years now. He's also 28 or something already isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector BlakeQuinn Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, canucks curse said: Smart decisions : hughes captaincy tocchet- seems to have synergy top to bottom with players kuzy milky Hronek miller over Bo for less money Willander Cole soucy bluegher bear trade suter Colliton pearson trade to get cap space desmith as legit back up trading stillman for bloom Not smart: boesser contract Dickinson trade losing a 2nd … hard to find more This Not sure how some people aren't fans of this management team 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, canucks curse said: Smart decisions : hughes captaincy tocchet- seems to have synergy top to bottom with players kuzy milky Hronek miller over Bo for less money Willander Cole soucy bluegher bear trade suter Colliton pearson trade to get cap space desmith as legit back up trading stillman for bloom Not smart: boesser contract Dickinson trade losing a 2nd … hard to find more Tocchet sure as hell wasn't a smart decision. Neither was crippling the franchise for almost a decade with dead cap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, King Heffy said: Tocchet sure as hell wasn't a smart decision. Neither was crippling the franchise for almost a decade with dead cap. Garland, Hughes, Miller, Boeser all saying how much they like toch orl buyout allowed us to get better oel was JBs mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, canucks curse said: Garland, Hughes, Miller, Boeser all saying how much they like toch orl buyout allowed us to get better oel was JBs mistake A decade of dead cap isn't something that a competent management group would even consider. Still have absolutely zero respect for Tocchet as a person and there were multiple options without his character issues. A good trade doesn't erase the damage that Rutherford and Allvin have done on and off the ice. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Maybe I would never say never ... but I haven't seen a worse performance from a goalie in probably 20 years now. He's also 28 or something already isn't he? I mean... Tim Thomas didn't even play an NHL game until after he was 30, so crazier things have happened. *shrug (Edit: Okay, he played 4 games at like... 28 or 29.... but still) Edited September 20, 2023 by The Lock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 53 minutes ago, LucBourdon28 said: Why didn't we keep Toffoli again? Complete bungling of the salary cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Outsiders Posted September 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, King Heffy said: A decade of dead cap isn't something that a competent management group would even consider. Still have absolutely zero respect for Tocchet as a person and there were multiple options without his character issues. A good trade doesn't erase the damage that Rutherford and Allvin have done on and off the ice. King please.. What were they suppose to do? Let OEL eat up 7.25 million of our cap to be the 7th defensemen? It was a Benning stain and it was removed. Much like Dickenson and now Pearson today. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Good trade, had to be done and we get some stability at backup G which we really lacked last year and it cost us big time. Crazy that around 1.5M in cap space costs a 3rd rounder nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 59 minutes ago, King Heffy said: A decade of dead cap isn't something that a competent management group would even consider. Still have absolutely zero respect for Tocchet as a person and there were multiple options without his character issues. A good trade doesn't erase the damage that Rutherford and Allvin have done on and off the ice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 DeSmith struggled last year but still put up almost a full goal per game and .035 better save percentage than Martin. I know Martin had some flashes the previous season and looked good back in the AHL. However, that’s a huge bet to make on a guy who’s going to need to play 25-30 games for us or we risk Demko breaking down again. Assuming De Smith even moderately bounces back (his career numbers are rock solid and he’s only 32) this is a move that makes a ton of sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, The Duke said: DeSmith struggled last year but still put up almost a full goal per game and .035 better save percentage than Martin. I know Martin had some flashes the previous season and looked good back in the AHL. However, that’s a huge bet to make on a guy who’s going to need to play 25-30 games for us or we risk Demko breaking down again. Assuming De Smith even moderately bounces back (his career numbers are rock solid and he’s only 32) this is a move that makes a ton of sense. Even if DeSmith doesn’t bounce back, there is nothing saying we can’t bring Silovs up for a home game or 5 over the year to give DD a rest. Plus it’ll be a nice little reward for Silovs and a litmus test to see where he is at throughout the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Tocchet sure as hell wasn't a smart decision. Neither was crippling the franchise for almost a decade with dead cap. Time will tell with Tocchet, (I like him) but it’s fair to criticize management’s overall strategy of basically, “what Benning and Weisbrod were doing, just with better pro scouting.” The OEL buyout is something a contender might consider but eating that much dead cap for so long is something else. Along with this short term pushing they were employing Boudreau and quite obviously having little time for him. If you’re clearly pushing you’d think they’d have just let him go that offseason if they were so unimpressed. OTOH Full credit for some finesse moves this offseason with the cap space carved out and some savvy targets in Hronek, (and Raty!), Cole, Soucy, Suter, Bleuger and some nice free signings with Hirose, McWard, Sasson and Johannson. Toss in some decent drafts (at least on paper) so far plus the AHL team and Colliton looking great. They’re acing the long term picture with the limited resources they’re putting in. But the overall actual impact is limited because they’re clearly still all in on the playoffs. Just a wild ride but at least they’re making what appear to be better moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bones said: Even if DeSmith doesn’t bounce back, there is nothing saying we can’t bring Silovs up for a home game or 5 over the year to give DD a rest. Plus it’ll be a nice little reward for Silovs and a litmus test to see where he is at throughout the year. Absolutely - that would be fun - but imo Silovs needs to play a ton of games this year. Important season for him to take on a starter’s workload. Our backup needs to play as an NHL average backup - just can’t be getting ventilated for 7 every other night and we’ll probably be okay. Martin may well have pulled that off but I’m more confident with DeSmith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 hours ago, RWMc1 said: I'm gonna miss Delia. Only because I liked saying Collin Delia from Rancho Cucamonga. Pronounced Kooka......munga bugs bunny style. When I first heard someone say that name after I moved to SoCal, I thought they were messing with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Duke said: Absolutely - that would be fun - but imo Silovs needs to play a ton of games this year. Important season for him to take on a starter’s workload. Our backup needs to play as an NHL average backup - just can’t be getting ventilated for 7 every other night and we’ll probably be okay. Martin may well have pulled that off but I’m more confident with DeSmith. Fully agree. For Silovs, he should be the starter in Abby, and play a majority of the games there. I just think that the odd call up to play and then be sent back could work wonders for him. DeSmith > Martin any day of the week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Edge Case said: If Rutherford somehow moves to Montreal’s front office Pearson will just drive himself to the airport! Maybe Pearson wanted to go to Mtl, thinking he might be safe there... assuming Rutherford's French doesn't go far beyond the curse words he learned on the ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said: This Not sure how some people aren't fans of this management team It's so hard to trust anything when you had so many years of Jim Benning.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Thanks for the hard work, Tanner. Sad to see you go, but happy enough with the trade. Just hope we don't have to pull the goalie against the Habs now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeeeeeergh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 wait they solved our cap issues and got a legit backup goalie? in one trade?! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Tanner was Bo's guy for years anyway. Now all is right with the Canuck world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 hours ago, BlueJays said: What better place to make my first post! I’m usually a lurker more so than a commenter so just know I’m here lurkin’. Insert lurker emoji here* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Seems we are filled in every spot like we haven't been in so long I forgot when. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 The big three are now all former Canucks. on another note….. Glad to see so many familiar names of this website. Cheers to all. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, The Duke said: DeSmith struggled last year but still put up almost a full goal per game and .035 better save percentage than Martin. I know Martin had some flashes the previous season and looked good back in the AHL. However, that’s a huge bet to make on a guy who’s going to need to play 25-30 games for us or we risk Demko breaking down again. Assuming De Smith even moderately bounces back (his career numbers are rock solid and he’s only 32) this is a move that makes a ton of sense. Couldn't agree more. We needed to make a move like this if management was serious about doing something this year. Walking into this year with Denko's struggles the last couple of years staying healthy combined with Martin's horrific performance was a disaster in waiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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