Popular Post Bardown Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The Canucks are pretty well set, at this point it is adding some exclamations to the overall club. Maybe an at at forward most likely going to be Kessel. Maybe a depth piece on the back end. As it stands now the Canucks have six very capable NHL defensemen in Hughes, Hronek, Myers, Zadorov, Cole, Soucy, and I would add a seventh NHL capable defenseman in Noah Juulsen whom has really established himself as an NHL player this year ( cannot overstate how important this particular coaching group has been this year ). Add in depth options with NHL experience like Friedman and Irwin and youngsters the team has teased in Woo, Hirose, McWard and there is depth to pull from. Adding another veteran defenseman would be solid. Its exciting to think of a Guentzel type and we won't really know until deadline day anyways but the Canucks are fairly solid. There is some hate on Lindholm ( coaches love what he has brought already ) for maybe a lack of production or chemistry, you will see his value as things move along here. Mikheyev hate I get it but he has not hurt the team and I think he is not going anywhere by choice of the coaches and management anyways. Its easy to get caught up in what other teams do but end of the day the Canucks look pretty good. That doesn't change if say Edmonton or Vegas add Guentzel along the way, Vancouver still remains a deep, dangerous club others are measuring themselves against. Never sell low on a player - ie Mik. He's starting to show flashes of his speed returning. His surgery was significant and it usually takes a year for a player to find their strength again, which is why his speed hasn't shown itself regularly. If you're going to move a player like Mikhayev, you do it next year when his speed should be where it used to be and you can sell high. There's zero advantage to moving him now for peanuts. His value won't decrease but it very well should increase, and he'll likely be more valuable to keep as well. Too many fans rush to move guys out when they're slumping. You can't operate a team being so reactionary. I remember people wanting to move Boeser for a second, Miller for a first and a prospect, give up picks to move Garland...good thing management understands the game better than fans. Edited March 5 by Bardown 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Not sure about Myers, it depends on what week to week means To me, it means that we can get away with pulling a Tampa... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 19 minutes ago, Bardown said: Rumour is LA is talking Toffoli. With Kempe out, and their / his history there, I'd expect that's his first choice to go and also re-sign Wasn’t the rumour he’s re-signing in jersey? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Wasn’t the rumour he’s re-signing in jersey? didn't hear that, only heard if NJ is a seller, LA is in on Toffoli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 58 minutes ago, Dom said: Dhaliwal says no chance Guentzel happens as other teams have much deeper prospect pools. Zucker - Canucks have poked around him. (I'D PASS) Greenway - They've wanted him for a long time. but the price is way too high. Kessel - Decision is coming... ' IT IS NOT FITNESS RELATED IF THEY DON'T SIGN HIM ' Almost sounds like nothing is going to happen. Thats your first mistake..... I don't see a bigger move coming Vancouver's way but I certainly don't have much faith in what Dhaliwal says, according to him the Canucks are probably still frustrated in how Pettersson has not come to the table and he is projecting another Matthew Tkachuk / Johnny Gaudreau situation by end of season. Goof! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Wasn’t the rumour he’s re-signing in jersey? Both sides I heard were discussing extension but thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Bardown said: didn't hear that, only heard if NJ is a seller, LA is in on Toffoli https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2854495/devils-gm-were-in-the-goalie-market-not-shopping-toffoli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 25 minutes ago, canucks curse said: What could the price be on 3rd liner 20 pt player greenway that is “way too high” ??? Price they paid was a 2nd and a 5th, I would assume they have requested a 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Dom said: Looks like Dumbass has realized he's not getting multiple high value prospects from anyone. Raty, 2025 first, and Aman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 14 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Thats your first mistake..... I don't see a bigger move coming Vancouver's way but I certainly don't have much faith in what Dhaliwal says, according to him the Canucks are probably still frustrated in how Pettersson has not come to the table and he is projecting another Matthew Tkachuk / Johnny Gaudreau situation by end of season. Goof! Dhaliwal is becoming more like Dave Pratt every day. I guess someone had to fill the void in the swamp after he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 The bottom line is what the Canucks are willing to give up in order to get a return that will make a difference in the playoffs. That would require any combination of the 2025 1st, Podkolzin, roster player, prospect, etc. Would they pay such a price for a great player, that may turn out to be a rental? How would they slide said player under the Salary cap? Can they include a roster player that the other team wants in the trade? All said and done, it looks to me that Vetrano would be the ideal fit with his solid stats and an extra season @ $3.65m. So what would be a fare trade for this player? 2025 1st and or 2nd, roster player Podkolzin + pick and or prospect (Bains,Raty or McWard). I think it would take... 2025 1st + Podz + prospect. Similar to the Lindy trade, except for the (shall I say) salary of Kuzy off the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I hope we're done, other than perhaps adding depth pieces. Trading our young players and prospects for big names is not the way to go. If management wants sustainable success, you need cheap contracts and ELCs to manage the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Bardown said: If you're going to move a player like Mikhayev, you do it next year when his speed should be where it used to be and you can sell high. There's zero advantage to moving him now for peanuts. His value won't decrease but it very well should increase, and he'll likely be more valuable to keep as well. Cap space. This year and the next 2. That is a giant advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 55 minutes ago, Coconuts said: https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2854495/devils-gm-were-in-the-goalie-market-not-shopping-toffoli Not shopping doesn't mean not trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Not shopping doesn't mean not trading. It doesn't, but it does speak to the offers not being palatable thus far It also speaks to them wanting to retain him despite some present disagreement "Tyler knows how much I'd like to bring him back, but unfortunately right now, there's a possible term difference (in contract talks). That doesn't mean we can't revisit this past the deadline, if he's still here, or in the offseason." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 44 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Dhaliwal is becoming more like Dave Pratt every day. I guess someone had to fill the void in the swamp after he left. Don’t tell me he’s arguing poker is a legitimate sport too, is he? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: Don’t tell me he’s arguing poker is a legitimate sport too, is he? this is my training routine for poker and darts, I'm a two sport athlete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 41 minutes ago, higgyfan said: The bottom line is what the Canucks are willing to give up in order to get a return that will make a difference in the playoffs. That would require any combination of the 2025 1st, Podkolzin, roster player, prospect, etc. Would they pay such a price for a great player, that may turn out to be a rental? How would they slide said player under the Salary cap? Can they include a roster player that the other team wants in the trade? All said and done, it looks to me that Vetrano would be the ideal fit with his solid stats and an extra season @ $3.65m. So what would be a fare trade for this player? 2025 1st and or 2nd, roster player Podkolzin + pick and or prospect (Bains,Raty or McWard). I think it would take... 2025 1st + Podz + prospect. Similar to the Lindy trade, except for the (shall I say) salary of Kuzy off the books. for Vatrano ? nope, Podkolzin i'd prefer and will need him next season after a few of our pending UFAs walk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekky Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Shekky said: please happen, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 24 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It doesn't, but it does speak to the offers not being palatable thus far It also speaks to them wanting to retain him despite some present disagreement "Tyler knows how much I'd like to bring him back, but unfortunately right now, there's a possible term difference (in contract talks). That doesn't mean we can't revisit this past the deadline, if he's still here, or in the offseason." That doesn't make it sound like he won't be traded...just that they'd prefer not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: That doesn't make it sound like he won't be traded...just that they'd prefer not to. Teams will have to up their ante if they want him though, the article speaks to current offers not making it worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, Shekky said: absolute garbage and hilarious if anyone thinks that would happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: for Vatrano ? nope, Podkolzin i'd prefer and will need him next season after a few of our pending UFAs walk. Yes, Vatrano. Unfortunately, your or my preference isn't particularly valid in this circumstance. If the Canucks want to upgrade their top 6 at TDL, it will be at a high price. I think the price will include Podz. I doubt there are many Canuck fans that want to see Podz moved, but we have no vote in the management decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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