Popular Post DANJR Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 I really thought Hoglander was on some hallowed ground this year. Going into uncharted territory. Well not even close as it turns out. He is presently 31st all time in terms of Even Strength goals and no other goals. The leader has 28. John Wensink 1978-79. Carter Verhaeghe got 24 just two years ago. If Hoglander gets to 21 he will be the second player to do it in the last 30+ years. 23 would get him into the top 10. 25 and he would be third place. Also of note. He is now the record holder for the Canucks, Brent Ashton 1980-81 had 18. Also more of note.....Dakota Joshua is now 4th all time on this Canucks list with 13 Also a further note.....Connor Garland is now 7th all time on this Canucks list with 12 Unbelievably Mikheyev is 11th on that same list. IF he gets one more he will be in the top ten. 50+ years of Canucks records and 4 guys this year have moved into the top ten in that catergory. Kind of mind boggling. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miss Korea Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 Sigh. It is criminal that the coaches don't even give him a look on the power play. You would think that someone who is strong on the puck and excellent at cycling down low is a prime option for our PP. The dude is a finisher in tight spaces. Imagine what he can do with more space and more time. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Sigh. It is criminal that the coaches don't even give him a look on the power play. You would think that someone who is strong on the puck and excellent at cycling down low is a prime option for our PP. The dude is a finisher in tight spaces. Imagine what he can do with more space and more time. Over Mikheyev?! Come on now, don't be silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANJR Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 11 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Sigh. It is criminal that the coaches don't even give him a look on the power play. You would think that someone who is strong on the puck and excellent at cycling down low is a prime option for our PP. The dude is a finisher in tight spaces. Imagine what he can do with more space and more time. 2 hours ago, MikeyD said: Over Mikheyev?! Come on now, don't be silly. Now just imagine how John Wensink and his fans felt after scoring 28 even strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) Nice little record for Wensink. Legendary depth guy for those Bruins...I think he was one of Don Cherry's eleven 20 goal scorers that one season. As for Brent Ashton...great player that we traded away very early. He went on to have a great career. Edited March 6 by Kevin Biestra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 13 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Sigh. It is criminal that the coaches don't even give him a look on the power play. You would think that someone who is strong on the puck and excellent at cycling down low is a prime option for our PP. The dude is a finisher in tight spaces. Imagine what he can do with more space and more time. He could easily have 30 goals by now if he got any PP time. I’m not sure what more he has to do to get some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANJR Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 40 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Nice little record for Wensink. Legendary depth guy for those Bruins...I think he was one of Don Cherry's eleven 20 goal scorers that one season. As for Brent Ashton...great player that we traded away very early. He went on to have a great career. That is one stat I always look for during a year. How many guys on a team are on pace for 20. Like Cherry said that might be an unbreakable record. Everyone on the first three lines and your top two D need to do it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetrisBloctT Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 14 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Sigh. It is criminal that the coaches don't even give him a look on the power play. You would think that someone who is strong on the puck and excellent at cycling down low is a prime option for our PP. The dude is a finisher in tight spaces. Imagine what he can do with more space and more time. He has been on the powerplay lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) And then there is this: By the time you get to top 50, it goes down to 40 even strength goals. This is a non-record that doesn't need a lot of attention. Yes it's great he's doing so well. Edited March 6 by IBatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANJR Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 24th place in this category. He could reaach top ten the way he's playing lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Hey a personal record of 20 goals on the year. I'm not complaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/5/2024 at 8:17 PM, DANJR said: That is one stat I always look for during a year. How many guys on a team are on pace for 20. Like Cherry said that might be an unbreakable record. Everyone on the first three lines and your top two D need to do it. How often does a defenseman score 20 goals these days ... not very. Yes it's an incredible record, that has stood the test of time. These days it's hard to create a top six with 6 20 goal scorers. Recent past, Burns and EK maybe had a shot at 2 20 goal D's in SJ. QH's can get there one day... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/5/2024 at 11:56 AM, MikeyD said: Over Mikheyev?! Come on now, don't be silly. Hey now, Mikheyev plays incredible defence on the PP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 That is a pretty meaningless stat as it is dependent on the team situation and not the player. We have better players who would play his role on the PP so he just doesn’t get time there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/10/2024 at 10:49 AM, Provost said: That is a pretty meaningless stat as it is dependent on the team situation and not the player. We have better players who would play his role on the PP so he just doesn’t get time there. Do we though? He's 4th on the team in goals and tied for 7th on the team in points (5th among forwards) despite averaging the lowest ice-time on the team other than Aman. I think he's more than earned the opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, Diamonds said: Do we though? He's 4th on the team in goals and tied for 7th on the team in points (5th among forwards) despite averaging the lowest ice-time on the team other than Aman. I think he's more than earned the opportunity. The times he has moved up the lineup he hasn’t produced at that rate. As it turns out, playing against 4th lines give you an advantage. That was really the secret sauce for team success earlier in the season. Our top two lines are defensively good enough take the toughest match ups head to head instead of having checking lines. That left the Garland and Hoglander lines to feast on lower opposition and bottom D pairings. As soon as some injuries hit and we didn’t have that depth you could see the negative impact it had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Provost said: The times he has moved up the lineup he hasn’t produced at that rate. As it turns out, playing against 4th lines give you an advantage. That was really the secret sauce for team success earlier in the season. Our top two lines are defensively good enough take the toughest match ups head to head instead of having checking lines. That left the Garland and Hoglander lines to feast on lower opposition and bottom D pairings. As soon as some injuries hit and we didn’t have that depth you could see the negative impact it had. In the past I would say you're right, but I think he's been looking quite good with Petey this last little stretch. He also has 6 points in his last 6 games which tells me he can still produce when facing stiffer competition. I think he and Petey are starting to develop some good chemistry. Ultimately yes, there's still a question of whether he can keep up his tenacious style of play when he regularly has more minutes as in the past he fell off a little. But I think so far it's looking pretty good and he's certainly made the case that he's earned the opportunity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Hoglander is producing with such little time on the ice. It's insane really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, PureQuickness said: Hoglander is producing with such little time on the ice. It's insane really. Pretty sure Martin Gelinas did the same. Dixon Ward one year for us ... just to name a couple guys. It's great to see. Used to be great teams had guys who'd get 20/20 on the 3rd line... that was the norm more or less and the expectation. Now it's extraordinary. And you have to move it up. Edited March 12 by IBatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 16 hours ago, Diamonds said: In the past I would say you're right, but I think he's been looking quite good with Petey this last little stretch. He also has 6 points in his last 6 games which tells me he can still produce when facing stiffer competition. I think he and Petey are starting to develop some good chemistry. Ultimately yes, there's still a question of whether he can keep up his tenacious style of play when he regularly has more minutes as in the past he fell off a little. But I think so far it's looking pretty good and he's certainly made the case that he's earned the opportunity. He sure has. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, IBatch said: Pretty sure Martin Gelinas did the same. Dixon Ward one year for us ... just to name a couple guys. It's great to see. Used to be great teams had guys who'd get 20/20 on the 3rd line... that was the norm more or less and the expectation. Now it's extraordinary. And you have to move it up. Yeah, you're right. I think I have forgotten that "third liners" are supposed to get 10-20 goals per year. And then after a while, we stopped having players like these, so my expectations have lowered a lot. And then seeing Hoglander produce like he has makes me overexcited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 50 minutes ago, PureQuickness said: Yeah, you're right. I think I have forgotten that "third liners" are supposed to get 10-20 goals per year. And then after a while, we stopped having players like these, so my expectations have lowered a lot. And then seeing Hoglander produce like he has makes me overexcited. Yes that's kind of how things have gone the past few decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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