Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 I am glad that Alvin has been active all season long regarding trades. Zadorov, Lindholm, Lafferty would be fetching big returns right now as teams gear up for the playoffs. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Breadnbutta said: But why have tanev and toffoli when you can have Eriksson, beagle and Roussel? FWIW Beagle was way more valuable than he was ever given credit for. Our PP has never been the same since he departed. Roussel was exactly what our young team needed, someone to drag them into a dog fight, he was never the same after the knee injury. If Ferland didn't have a squishy melon that team might have gone deep? Regardless Tanev never should have been let walk, Toffoli is just spilled milk. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Nah he was always a top tier moron. A certified HOF moron, joining the likes of Mike Milbury and Doug Maclean. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Hammertime said: FWIW Beagle was way more valuable than he was ever given credit for. Our PP has never been the same since he departed. Roussel was exactly what our young team needed, someone to drag them into a dog fight, he was never the same after the knee injury. If Ferland didn't have a squishy melon that team might have gone deep? Regardless Tanev never should have been let walk, Toffoli is just spilled milk. I'll always defend the Roussel acquisition, he was worth every penny prior to his injury 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I have fears about this management group doing something foolish like reading Hogs, Podz or one of our 4 young star prospects for a rental. Lindholm is already rumoured to be on the way out and he'd need to go with something to get back something comparable that works. A bit unnerving really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Btw, did they ever say why Lindholm left the game last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Not a big Dreger fan but I believe him when he says this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I have fears about this management group doing something foolish like reading Hogs, Podz or one of our 4 young star prospects for a rental. Lindholm is already rumoured to be on the way out and he'd need to go with something to get back something comparable that works. A bit unnerving really It's mostly people who have a love fest for Jake G. Honestly, I think we might pick up a minor deal. We don't have much to trade at this juncture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: Btw, did they ever say why Lindholm left the game last night? He came back later. No mention of what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJCF96 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, Hammertime said: FWIW Beagle was way more valuable than he was ever given credit for. Our PP PK has never been the same since he departed. Roussel was exactly what our young team needed, someone to drag them into a dog fight, he was never the same after the knee injury. If Ferland didn't have a squishy melon that team might have gone deep? Regardless Tanev never should have been let walk, Toffoli is just spilled milk. Beagle is way overrated base on his reputation. By the time he arrived here as a Canuck, he was already 33, a shell of his former self and nothing more than a 4C, PK and Faceoff specialist. Sure those are important skillsets that a team needs. But not at the cost of $3 million per over 4 years. We should've never signed him to begin with. Stop with the "you have to overpay players to sign with you when you are rebuilding" argument. Rebuilding teams usually hand-out lofty contracts for 1-2 years, not 4 years. Also, if a player don't want to sign with you, don't sign them. Beagle knows he isn't worth the money being offered but took the bag because he knows this his retirement contract, good for him for taking advantage of a moron GM. We would've been in a much better place had they retained Nic Dowd at a fraction of the cost (fun fact, he replaced Beagle and carved out a great role in Washington). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Sell.the.team said: Not a big Dreger fan but I believe him when he says this. Long video and don’t care to watch all of it - can you elaborate on what you believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 no to Guentzel if the price includes Hoglander. And god no please no Zucker. He’s not the same player he was 2 years ago. He sucks 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wennberg to NYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Warhippy said: I have fears about this management group doing something foolish like reading Hogs, Podz or one of our 4 young star prospects for a rental. Lindholm is already rumoured to be on the way out and he'd need to go with something to get back something comparable that works. A bit unnerving really Feeling a bit nervous about Allvin's fascination with Penguins, sounds like he's willing to go all in for Guentzel, but even if they get Guentzel, the forward group has weak inks. Not keen on giving up on Lindholm so quickly, as I can see him going to the Bruins, for example, and really thriving. Lindholm is a right-shot C, something the Canucks have really needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honkin Hronek Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 Wennberg to NYR being confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, Odd. said: no to Guentzel if the price includes Hoglander. And god no please no Zucker. He’s not the same player he was 2 years ago. He sucks Agreed, If we're going to add, go at players who are big and bang. Greenway and the guy from Minnestota. Lower cost. When Joshua comes back we have a third line as good as most seconds. Play a hard team game and go as far as we can. I'd prefer to keep Lindholm, as he will be very valuable in the playoffs, but if we can get Guentzel without giving up Podz/Hogz or the 3 swedes I'm ok with moving on from Lindholm. I just doubt Pittsburgh will do a deal without those guys involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Long video and don’t care to watch all of it - can you elaborate on what you believe? Sorry, the clip I watched was only 1 - 2 minutes.... that must be the longer version. Basically 1. Confirmed that he heard the Lindholm 3 way rumor had substance and there were talks. 2. What else would Vancouver need to add to make it happen? Are they really interested in adding additional pieces like Podz or Hoglander to make it happen? Unlikely. 3. Would Vancouver / Vegas love to have Guetnzel? Obviously. Are they that desperate to give up a huge price for him? Probably not. 4. Could a lot of this be buzz from Pittsburgh brass trying to inflate the market for Guentzel, whose asking price is very high. In actuality, it doesn't appear that other teams are willing to meet it as they view him as a rental (consistent with other external reports / speculation I've read about today). Edited March 6 by Sell.the.team 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Highstickin Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I have fears about this management group doing something foolish like reading Hogs, Podz or one of our 4 young star prospects for a rental. Lindholm is already rumoured to be on the way out and he'd need to go with something to get back something comparable that works. A bit unnerving really I dont think Lindholm needs to be packaged at all to net a good return. With Henrique moving today the pool of available & capable 2C is very small. The price for players is not driven by their stats alone it's supply and demand. Right now there are teams desperate to beef up their center ice and we just so happen to have a surplus. The challenge comes from teams wanting to beef up their center ice are generally teams that don't want to give up roster players because they have playoff asperations too. This is what leads to three team trades or at least two back to back trades (much like colorado just pulled off). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I have fears about this management group doing something foolish like reading Hogs, Podz or one of our 4 young star prospects for a rental. Lindholm is already rumoured to be on the way out and he'd need to go with something to get back something comparable that works. A bit unnerving really I could very well be delusional here but seeing the way this management group works and understanding JR's history MO around roster management I have the feeling the team does not move either of Hogs or Podz and does not flip Lindholm. Now if it is true that extension talks were broached by the Canucks and not met with mutual interest as has been suggested by some media then I could see the team re-assessing their plan moving forward but every indication we had from PA after acquiring Lindholm was to bring him here for this season and open to an extension or not. So not sold that Vancouver would flip him. If something was brewing around Guentzel, you could maybe see Bains, Raty, future top pick(s) and a roster piece but that may not be very competitive compared to some other clubs assets available. Really think the team tries on a Zucker, Duclair type, maybe a dman and depending how the trade market goes most likely signs Kessel. Always happily anticipate being shocked or surprised though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Honkin Hronek said: What in the Gudbranson are they doing over there. I thought it’d be max 2 years. Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 26 minutes ago, Hammertime said: I hope youre right. I would love to see our sister club finally crawl out of the basement. Seems like they've been in the dark ages forever. I feel like they have the pieces to be contenders in a few years but it always seems to be one step fwd one back for Buff. They seem to under achieve every year, I wouldn't mind seeing them in the playoffs. They have some great players like Thompson, Tuch, Dahlin and Power, but have yet to put it together (goaltending has been a big issue for them in recent years). They have a treasure chest full of prospects though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 So if the Guentzel deal happens as has been speculated. It'd be a 1st, Podkolzin, Brzutewicz, Jurmo, and a 4th for Guentzel. Gotta say, that looks like an absolute haul. If he re-signs relatively cheaply I can vibe with it. Or if we win it all. If he doesn't re-sign and/or we lose. That package for Guentzel would be pretty close to an unmitigated disaster. I can live with Brzustewicz and a 1st just to dump Kuzy's cap and get one good run with Lindholm. Losing Podkolzin on top of it for a scoring winger instead of a two way C? It just starts to get really expensive for one potential run that can end as soon as 1 top 6C gets injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Highstickin said: I dont think Lindholm needs to be packaged at all to net a good return. With Henrique moving today the pool of available & capable 2C is very small. The price for players is not driven by their stats alone it's supply and demand. Right now there are teams desperate to beef up their center ice and we just so happen to have a surplus. The challenge comes from teams wanting to beef up their center ice are generally teams that don't want to give up roster players because they have playoff asperations too. This is what leads to three team trades or at least two back to back trades (much like colorado just pulled off). Boston is the perfect spot for Lindholm in a 3 way. Their second line center is Charlie Coyle. 1c is a Zacha and he's only putting up points because he plays with Pasta. Lindholm could literally be their 1c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshrips Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Honkin Hronek said: Well well well NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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