Popular Post PistolPete13 Posted March 8 Popular Post Share Posted March 8 (edited) 5 hours ago, Grandmaster said: So you counted them out already eh? They were counted out by everyone when training camp started. With all the moves made during the year, they’re #2 overall. No reason to count them out. Things are going very well. Team is going to the dance, they are strong down the middle and have great goaltending. They have a shot just like 6 or 7 other teams. Management has brought this team a long way so far. And they didn’t completely gut the prospect pool to do it. They’ve done a tidy amount of business here, and the best is yet to come. Edited March 9 by PistolPete13 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Lemon Face said: JR always said he will not trade our young guys,and he kept word.We might exit second round,but house is in order.I am happy.There is a lot things to hope for but.... didn't he give up a top offensive D-man prospect in Hunter B. though for a rental (potential) player in Zadorov?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 41 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Myers could be that big tough hitting winger we need on the 4th line too. If Tocchet needs a bigger match up against a big team in a 7 game series. I think I'd try that for sure. That would be an insane move, but crazy if Myers could actually read the ice at the forward level. Although really the first time he goes in to forecheck he will be called for elbowing and escorted out of a playoff series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Noir Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 8 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said: You have no idea how much time was actually spent going after JG and how much time was spent going after other players. If you were privy to how things actually unfolded, you’d probably be less disappointed. We’ll see how it all plays out. Fact is they were exploring that trade with full vigour for an extended time which goes against managements claim of wanting to keep our players which a trade for guentzel would end required. They’ve had to backtrack now that they couldn’t get that done, showing up late to the party for the other potential trades, so what do they say publicly? That they’re happy with what they’ve got. That might be a public proclamation but privately our front office knows this deadline was somewhat a failure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, RakuRaku said: but.... didn't he give up a top offensive D-man prospect in Hunter B. though for a rental (potential) player in Zadorov?? big Z wont be a rental as long as he takes a reasonable deal on a team he seems to love 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_can_fan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: but.... didn't he give up a top offensive D-man prospect in Hunter B. though for a rental (potential) player in Zadorov?? Hunter was given up for Lindholm not Zadorov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Well I guess in a sense it’s good not to put all our eggs in one basket (this year). We will see how this group does in these last games and then the playoffs. Then the hard decisions will come in the off season who stays or leaves. I think in the long run we will be better off. But I can’t say it doesn’t hurt that we didn’t add someone in today. Even a tweener 2nd/3rd line winger for scoring depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_can_fan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 27 minutes ago, Pinot Noir said: Teams seemingly have turned their back to the Canucks, and were not willing to negotiate with this management at a time where deals happen with some ease. So management turns around and says they’re happy to stand Pat. But we know it’s not cause they wanted to, rather cause they had to. Either way that is not a good sign for the near future of this team and it’s trade targets. the inability to make a depth trade that wouldn’t have cost any « untouchables » is extremely alarming. you consistently have the worst takes 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, van_can_fan said: Hunter was given up for Lindholm not Zadorov OK but you got the point..... a very promising prospect + picks for RENTAL but today, Ruthie & Allvin didn't feel like competing with the big boys to go for it..... it's like we'll just wait & see how far we can go 'cause making the playoffs means over-achievement and WE should be totally satisfied!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 8 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: but.... didn't he give up a top offensive D-man prospect in Hunter B. though for a rental (potential) player in Zadorov?? First HB is at best a B prospect. He’s small, slow, and can’t play defensively. Second we moved him in the Lindholm deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PistolPete13 Posted March 9 Popular Post Share Posted March 9 Just now, Pinot Noir said: Fact is they were exploring that trade with full vigour for an extended time which goes against managements claim of wanting to keep our players which a trade for guentzel would end required. They’ve had to backtrack now that they couldn’t get that done, showing up late to the party for the other potential trades, so what do they say publicly? That they’re happy with what they’ve got. That might be a public proclamation but privately our front office knows this deadline was somewhat a failure. You had me at fact. Unless you were in the room, you can’t honestly tell anyone how much time was spent pursuing each player. A lot of the JG / Lindholm talk was media driven sic insiders looking for clicks. I don’t know what our front office really thinks, and neither then you. I’m looking forward to the remainder of the season and the playoffs. Our team has come a long way since game 1. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: OK but you got the point..... a very promising prospect + picks for RENTAL but today, Ruthie & Allvin didn't feel like competing with the big boys to go for it..... it's like we'll just wait & see how far we can go 'cause making the playoffs means over-achievement and WE should be totally satisfied!! Again, HB isn’t an NHLer. He’s putting up points in a junior league against boys. He will struggle in the AHL. He’s pretty much a Hack Rathbone level of player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Which one is it? I think it's a little of both. Myers needs depth to be stabilized, Soucy just needs to play and he stabilizes the entire team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I have to think this is a real vote of confidence for the players. Nobody was moved out, team chemistry is intact, and they are sitting #2 overall in the league. They are good enough to make a run. I think everything would have to go right (no injuries, great goaltending, everyone playing at the top of their games consistently, and just some good old fashioned luck) but that applies to any team that wins a cup. I'm so happy we didn't ship out any roster players or top prospects. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RakuRaku Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: Again, HB isn’t an NHLer. He’s putting up points in a junior league against boys. He will struggle in the AHL. He’s pretty much a Hack Rathbone level of player. But how do you know for sure which top prospect probably won't make it and which can never be given up for rentals??? That's the kind of double standards I'm seeing right here!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, RakuRaku said: But how do you know for sure which top prospect probably won't make it and which can never be given up for rentals??? That's the kind of double standards I'm seeing right here!!!!! There’s a reason guys are selected in the rounds they are. HB was a later round pick because of his size, poor skating, and lack of commitment to defending. It’s very rare for these guys, selected where he was, to become even a serviceable NHLer. We pretty much got Lindholm for free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 23 minutes ago, Pinot Noir said: Fact is they were exploring that trade with full vigour for an extended time which goes against managements claim of wanting to keep our players which a trade for guentzel would end required. They’ve had to backtrack now that they couldn’t get that done, showing up late to the party for the other potential trades, so what do they say publicly? That they’re happy with what they’ve got. That might be a public proclamation but privately our front office knows this deadline was somewhat a failure. Exactly!!!! but most of us here are content with hugging close the prospects and picks.... I wouldn't have cared so much IF we were just barely hanging on to the wildcard spot.... but we are a conference leader now.... and just 1-2 solid pieces away..... even with our last resort..... someone had to drop the ball on Kessel big time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7_Gyoza Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: But how do you know for sure which top prospect probably won't make it and which can never be given up for rentals??? That's the kind of double standards I'm seeing right here!!!!! The prospects who sign entry deals vs the ones who remain unsigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Alflives said: There’s a reason guys are selected in the rounds they are. HB was a later round pick because of his size, poor skating, and lack of commitment to defending. It’s very rare for these guys, selected where he was, to become even a serviceable NHLer. We pretty much got Lindholm for free. OK... let's not get stuck on debating which prospects are OK to throw out, which gotta be held on to.... you have seen teams like the Jets throwing some random picks out to get Toffoli and Colin Miller with salaries retained... why couldn't we have done the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 We've done so many trades already this year to the point where we didn't need to do anything. We already the guy we wanted in Lindholm and didn't have to go down to the wire of the deadline to get him. I have to admit that I do like JR's idea on getting deals done early as it removes the pressure we would have had otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, RakuRaku said: OK... let's not get stuck on debating which prospects are OK to throw out, which gotta be held on to.... you have seen teams like the Jets throwing some random picks out to get Toffoli and Colin Miller with salaries retained... why couldn't we have done the same? Tofu is old and slow. He’s a puck sucker. Our GM isn’t a Moran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionized27 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 6 minutes ago, Strawbone said: I have to think this is a real vote of confidence for the players. Nobody was moved out, team chemistry is intact, and they are sitting #2 overall in the league. They are good enough to make a run. I think everything would have to go right (no injuries, great goaltending, everyone playing at the top of their games consistently, and just some good old fashioned luck) but that applies to any team that wins a cup. I'm so happy we didn't ship out any roster players or top prospects. Exactly this. The moves made weeks ago will suffice as confidence and chemistry continues to build. I also agree with Ferraro when he said that the injury to Joshua really threw a wrench into things. Hopefully DJ will return soon. I believe his role is critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: But how do you know for sure which top prospect probably won't make it and which can never be given up for rentals??? That's the kind of double standards I'm seeing right here!!!!! HB reportedly did not want to sign here. We offered him a contract last year and he refused. He then had an interview where he literally stated he was excited to be in a trade. So even if you think he'll make the NHL, the likelihood of him making it with us was slim to none, not because of us, but because of him unwilling to sign. In terms of today, we didn't have to make a trade as we got Lindholm already. No point in trading away any more assets. Edited March 9 by The Lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 31 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: but.... didn't he give up a top offensive D-man prospect in Hunter B. though for a rental (potential) player in Zadorov?? I am wrong person for that kind of joke.Never been Hunter fan.Sorry to disappoint you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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