boziffous Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 10 hours ago, DeNiro said: So Toews isn’t worth his contract because of Makar? Poor argument. Toews has proven to be effective with or without Makar. Hronek being effective away from Hughes is up for debate. Surprising that Hughes had even better fancy stats away from Hronek this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, The King of Kings said: it would mean a 4M+ flexibilty for the cap at the beginning of last season And they moved him. So who cares? It had no effect on the season. Hronek is a legitimate top pair rhd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, boziffous said: Toews has proven to be effective with or without Makar. Hronek being effective away from Hughes is up for debate. Surprising that Hughes had even better fancy stats away from Hronek this past season. Drawing any kind of conclusion over 300 minutes of playing time is insane. If you need proof Hronek is effective without hughes, we have 4 full seasons worth of proof that hes a 0.5 ppg defenseman, and he didnt have quinn hughes for any of those. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 38 minutes ago, Bob Long said: And they moved him. So who cares? It had no effect on the season. Hronek is a legitimate top pair rhd. exactly this + imagine if hughes misses games. Who are people expecting to fill in on pp1 if not hronek? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Kings Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 44 minutes ago, Bob Long said: And they moved him. So who cares? It had no effect on the season. Hronek is a legitimate top pair rhd. I didnt like the fact that the Canucks ate up that 4M caphit. It doesnt mean I dont like Hronek the player. Of course he's important to the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The King of Kings said: I didnt like the fact that the Canucks ate up that 4M caphit. It doesnt mean I dont like Hronek the player. Of course he's important to the team. No other choice tho if the islanders were the trade partners. Allvin went with the highest pick he could get which was a smart move. You also never know, Beau might have been a good winger with Petey. Edited July 11 by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The King of Kings said: I didnt like the fact that the Canucks ate up that 4M caphit. It doesnt mean I dont like Hronek the player. Of course he's important to the team. i think detroit was just very much in the drivers seat they knew they had a rare commodity it was a take it or leave it deal if we left it, its pretty unlikely we'd get a top-pair RD in his age bracket anywhere else Edit: sorry i see you were refering to the islanders deal Edited July 11 by HarbularyBattery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Bob Long said: No other choice tho if the islanders were the trade partners. Allvin went with the highest pick he could get which was a smart move. You also never know, Beau might have been a good winger with Petey. Beau did replace Mikeyev on the top line when Mik was injured and he played good and was out scoring Horvat right after the trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Offseason Hronek haters be like ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hughes Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Bahaha worst thread ever!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hughes Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Keep my partners name out of your fckn mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Crossbar Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 On 7/11/2024 at 9:42 AM, HarbularyBattery said: they knew they had a rare commodity it was a take it or leave it deal if we left it, its pretty unlikely we'd get a top-pair RD in his age bracket anywhere else Despite the edit ... this is spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 It's interesting that Hronek despite struggling finished the season only two points behind Toews in points for defensemen. With a more consistent and complete season, optimizing his shot, Hronek will finish considerably higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-19 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I'm much happier with the trade now seeing what he was signed for long term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Who is happy ? still me was thrilled when we acquired him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 3 centres deep was tried with Horvat as the 3C and it never worked. Replacing Horvat with Hronek was vintage Alvin. Many moving parts with orchestrated trades by the GM and again he was able to improve this team in a huge way getting Hronek. Knowing the winning formula for this teams success and knowing what the Canucks needed last year (top 6 winger for Petey) it's a shame Alvin was handcuffed during free agency last year. After that trade for Lindholm, Petey's production tanked while being used as the 3C. Hopefully a valuable lesson learned that playing games during negotiations has consequences. The only reason Alvin would sign a 3rd centre knowing this formula doesn't work is if they were worried Petey wouldn't sign with the Canucks. It's hard to know how things would have played out if Petey was up front with Alvin and the GM was able to bring in someone to help Petey down the stretch and into the playoffs. Maybe things would have gone differently, but we'll never know. All Petey can do is try to take away the positives from this experience and I hope it motivates him to play hard for his teammates. Edited August 16 by Pure961089 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 On 8/2/2024 at 12:40 PM, canucks curse said: Who is happy ? still me was thrilled when we acquired him Still me and now he is signed long term to a decent cap hit and he has not even peaked yet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 On 8/1/2024 at 10:27 AM, Dr. Crossbar said: Offseason Hronek haters be like ... I know right I love Hronek but too bad this is still me … most days on the inside 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, canucks curse said: I know right I love Hronek but too bad this is still me … most days on the inside Well, training camp starts next month. There's reason to be Happy Hronek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hammertime Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) I feel like the kicker will be not if but when they find the right combination to split Hughes Hronek and have a balanced attack instead of 1 power pairing and 2 shut down pairings. IMO when we have that they will be able to exploit the agressive forchecking style they want to play on a nother level. Edited August 17 by Hammertime 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kettlevalley Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 14 hours ago, Hammertime said: I feel like the kicker will be not if but when they find the right combination to split Hughes Hronek and have a balanced attack instead of 1 power pairing and 2 shut down pairings. IMO when we have that they will be able to exploit the agressive forchecking style they want to play on a nother level. All true. Just think we need Willander for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastExpress Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 17 hours ago, Hammertime said: I feel like the kicker will be not if but when they find the right combination to split Hughes Hronek and have a balanced attack instead of 1 power pairing and 2 shut down pairings. IMO when we have that they will be able to exploit the agressive forchecking style they want to play on a nother level. Defense should all be "shut down pairings" and then still be able to put pucks on sticks for assists and occasionally a goal. Myers did pretty well considering he was used mostly against the top lines, in dangerous situations. I think if we all take a minute to look at League Defensive scoring and scroll down to Myers, and look at who he is "kinda" equal to, he is a top 4 still. 2 hours ago, kettlevalley said: All true. Just think we need Willander for that. Yes. I agree. I think Defensive pairings that work the best are ones with an offensive fast, stick handler and a stay at home guy who can pass to the other guy. Myers is not really a good stay at home guy, he was born to run. Playing with Soucy and Cole, allowed Myers to attack the incoming player and usually get the puck. And, I almost think he was the best Van defenseman during the playoffs besides Zadorov. Hronek needs to chill and just be the safe guy for Hughes. Most of his points were secondary's on Hughes primary assist, or a primary assist on a Hughes goal.... no more time in the Defensive zone please. Just cover for Hughes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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