HKSR Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Not gonna whine about it now as what's done is done, but man, I was not a happy camper when we moved Forsling. So much talent that just needed developing. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combover Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 books from Benning - Dim Jim and the science of being stupid. dim jim -how to ruin a franchise dim jim -how not to build a hockey team dim jim -watch and learn, what not to do. And finally dim jim - 101 excuses for failing at everything. good for Gus and gad getting away from turd Benning probably saved their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 18 minutes ago, g_bassi13 said: That's the thing for me. I don't see how you can be upset when 2 teams after us also gave up on him. I have a high capacity for spite. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Hronek has more points, plays in all situations and is a RHD. Forsling doesn’t play much on the power play. Hronek is closer to Vince Dunn than Forsling. I wouldn’t pay him $8 million. But he will definitely get $7 milion +. Forsling was UFA though so that is a factor as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Chance Forsling never becomes the player is has become if he doesn't get waived, etc. Could be the wake up call he never would have got if he stayed with the Canucks. So many variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flat land fish Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 It's interesting following guys like forsling and McCann if they had just let the guys develop would have worked better than the trades. If only they had partnered jimbo with a trade savvy guy we may have struck success sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Great signing he’s been unreal for them. Sad we traded him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: I’ve never cared about the Forsling trade. We were trying to help the Sedins retire on a competitive team, and simultaneously upstart the rebuild by 4 years. Clendenning was older and seemed like a top 4 lock. I’m very happy for Gus that he’s carved out a very solid career. Except he wasn't and I'm pretty sure Chicago wouldn't have given if up if he had that kind of upside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 52 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: Happy for Forsling. Happy for Gadjovich. Don't care about what Jim Benning did in the past since the year is 2024. Caitlin Jenner's mushroom head has more relevance to my life than Jim Benning. I only care about the 2023/2024 Canucks and what's in front of us. You could argue not having Forsling was a snowball effect having some questionable trades for defense including getting OEL. If Forsling was here, maybe all this OEL drama (which lead to Tanev walking and the nice buyput penalty the Canucks now have to eat) wouldn't have happened 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjickwillkillyou Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Aaaaaaaand here comes calm AndyG with his semi-truck load of F bombs in 3, 2 aaaaaaaaand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, iinatcc said: You could argue not having Forsling was a snowball effect having some questionable trades for defense including getting OEL. If Forsling was here, maybe all this OEL drama (which lead to Tanev walking and the nice buyput penalty the Canucks now have to eat) wouldn't have happened I get what folks here are saying about Benning trying to keep this team competitive, but you could say that just about any trade he made. It's people trying to rationalize loss, and we lost WAY TOO MUCH under Jet Black Jim. Like, everyone here understands what he tried to do acquiring OEL. Does his intentions make that trade look any better? Of course not. It was mistake, the same way Clendening-Forsling was a mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 12 minutes ago, iinatcc said: You could argue not having Forsling was a snowball effect having some questionable trades for defense including getting OEL. If Forsling was here, maybe all this OEL drama (which lead to Tanev walking and the nice buyput penalty the Canucks now have to eat) wouldn't have happened I don't disagree but it's too far in the rearview mirror for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I won't lie. The Forsling trade still makes me sour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 21 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: I don't disagree but it's too far in the rearview mirror for me. We still complain about Boston, Messier... We can complain about Jim Benning. He doesn't deserve anyone's sympathy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, MeanSeanBean said: Under 6 million for Forsling. For those saying they would pay Hronek 8, do you think he's 2 million better then Forsling? I'm not sure I do. Yes, easily and 14 more points is a bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 24 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: I don't disagree but it's too far in the rearview mirror for me. Well not yet. Those nice OEL buyout penalties in the next 7 years is going to be nice reminder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 That's a really good cap hit for Forsling. I thought he would cost more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Yes, easily and 14 more points is a bonus I'm honestly surprised it's not way more then 14 points. The guy standing beside Hronek for the majority of the ice time has 56 more points then Forslings partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't know why people are comparing Forsling to Hronek. Forsling plays a much heavier defensive role on the Panthers and has averaged 3min/game on the PK both last season and this season. He's in the top 10 players in the league in shorthanded time/game. His 35 to 40 points is a really nice bonus for the defensive role he plays on Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 22 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I'm honestly surprised it's not way more then 14 points. The guy standing beside Hronek for the majority of the ice time has 56 more points then Forslings partner. It's the split on PP units as part of the difference. Hronek plays the second unit so that is one of the main differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Not gonna whine about it now as what's done is done, but man, I was not a happy camper when we moved Forsling. So much talent that just needed developing. Forsling took 9 years to stick in the NHL he went through Vancouver, Chicago and Carolina and their AHL teams he was lucky to find a spot in Florida on a great team that hid his weaknesses. He’s developed yes but this idea that the Canucks “gave up too early” is silly Edited March 7 by Bardown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, Bardown said: Forsling took 8 years to make the NHL he went through Vancouver, Chicago and Carolina and their AHL teams he was lucky to find a spot in Florida on a great team that his weaknesses. He’s developed yes but this idea that the Canucks “gave up too early” is silly Yup I get he became a good player, but like Grabner, McCann etc. before him seems like he needed the moves to become the player he is now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, flat land fish said: It's interesting following guys like forsling and McCann if they had just let the guys develop would have worked better than the trades. If only they had partnered jimbo with a trade savvy guy we may have struck success sooner. Green had a hand in these moves as well. He's a really bad talent assessor as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: It's the split on PP units as part of the difference. Hronek plays the second unit so that is one of the main differences. Is that the reason? Wouldn't that only make sense if Forsling was racking up powerplay points on pp1 in Florida? He has 2 this season compared to Hroneks 10. So if your arguments is powerplay time isn't equal, you are very correct, Hronek gets an 8 points boom from his pp2 time. Forlsing averages 33 seconds of ice time on the pp, while Hronek has a healthy 1:49 seconds, nearly 4 times as much. Bringing powerplay into this conversation actually seems to reflect poorly on your original statement. Edited March 7 by MeanSeanBean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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