Devron Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM Why does it feel like past years this year, I feel like we are gonna lose out on some good players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:34 PM 24 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Apparently Dhaliwal said Milstein's going to make a statement regarding Zadorov leaving on Monday? Milstein and Zad be like ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 06:45 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:45 PM 1 hour ago, EdgarM said: I think Z will weigh his options and he said he liked how this team was run and how they were treated(players). I expect he will see if any of the upper echelon teams have any more to offer then us. I don't think Utah is even an option for him. Seeing more and more of what fans here saw as “Zadorov replacements” getting gobbled up for good money . lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:51 PM 12 minutes ago, Devron said: Why does it feel like past years this year, I feel like we are gonna lose out on some good players not “overpaying “ dosent mean your offering a fair contract. Alvin’s statement of “players who want to be here” or what we consider “hometown discount”, actually means they sign for less than fair. The hypocrisy I think is in Pettersons deal. Not denying he may have a fantastic career here ,. But where is the “hometown discount” in a Max deal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Saturday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:52 PM 5 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Seeing more and more of what fans here saw as “Zadorov replacements” getting gobbled up for good money . lol Agreed, I really think he is being undervalued and we will soon find out that he will not be easily replaced. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: not “overpaying “ dosent mean your offering a fair contract. Alvin’s statement of “players who want to be here” or what we consider “hometown discount”, actually means they sign for less than fair. The hypocrisy I think is in Pettersons deal. Not denying he may have a fantastic career here ,. But where is the “hometown discount” in a Max deal? Pettersson wanted to wait even though he was playing through injury. We could have waited and his cap hit would have been even lower this summer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Saturday at 06:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:55 PM 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: not “overpaying “ dosent mean your offering a fair contract. Alvin’s statement of “players who want to be here” or what we consider “hometown discount”, actually means they sign for less than fair. The hypocrisy I think is in Pettersons deal. Not denying he may have a fantastic career here ,. But where is the “hometown discount” in a Max deal? I think we actually paid for potential more then actual performance. We are paying him like he has actually taken us to the promised land already, similar to Toronto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 06:56 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:56 PM Just now, EdgarM said: Agreed, I really think he is being undervalued and we will soon find out that he will not be easily replaced. Sad. get out the pencils , Friedman Juulsen Woolanin .. plugging hole on D again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 06:57 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:57 PM 2 minutes ago, Devron said: Pettersson wanted to wait even though he was playing through injury. We could have waited and his cap hit would have been even lower this summer Exactly , seems they’re flip flopping on ideologies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted Saturday at 06:59 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:59 PM 5 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Agreed, I really think he is being undervalued and we will soon find out that he will not be easily replaced. Sad. The fact is he was likely fitting as the 3rd pair left defense. He and his agent are selling him as a legit top four. That Vancouver may have been considering near or at $5m per season is high value and a major commitment from the team. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: Exactly , seems they’re flip flopping on ideologies Thing is management is gonna make mistakes people need to realize this, it’s ok to question some of their moves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:00 PM 2 minutes ago, SilentSam said: get out the pencils , Friedman Juulsen Woolanin .. plugging hole on D again We have been mostly putting the right pieces to the puzzle together, but lately, it seems we have been veering away from that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted Saturday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:01 PM 5 minutes ago, Devron said: Pettersson wanted to wait even though he was playing through injury. We could have waited and his cap hit would have been even lower this summer Pettersson left money on the table. He was pressured to sign earlier than his initial ideal timeline. But that didn't up the number. It confirmed the team's obligations to him in order to try and sign players now. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:01 PM (edited) We are basically the same core roster and possibly out on Zadorov , Sign Zadorov , offer Debrusk , and then offer Dillon. Lettermakmi is literally not far away . Edited Saturday at 07:02 PM by SilentSam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted Saturday at 07:02 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:02 PM 1 minute ago, EdgarM said: We have been mostly putting the right pieces to the puzzle together, but lately, it seems we have been veering away from that. Lately as in the last week? Let Allvin cook. People are so quick to jump the gun every offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM 2 minutes ago, EdgarM said: We have been mostly putting the right pieces to the puzzle together, but lately, it seems we have been veering away from that. I just don’t like the Myers signing at 3m. We could have saved 500k there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:03 PM 3 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The fact is he was likely fitting as the 3rd pair left defense. He and his agent are selling him as a legit top four. That Vancouver may have been considering near or at $5m per season is high value and a major commitment from the team. Yeah, I really don't get the beef with management. They made a very, very fair offer to Zadorov. Folks should blame Zadorov for chasing more money/term elsewhere, unlike other guys who took less to stick around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Saturday at 07:04 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:04 PM 3 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The fact is he was likely fitting as the 3rd pair left defense. He and his agent are selling him as a legit top four. That Vancouver may have been considering near or at $5m per season is high value and a major commitment from the team. I think he stepped up and showed he could play top 4 in the playoffs, where it counts the most. The team sees Soucy as higher up in the depth chart and that is where I see them making the mistake. Just my opinion though of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Saturday at 07:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:05 PM 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Lately as in the last week? Let Allvin cook. People are so quick to jump the gun every offseason. I agree, things are not set in stone yet so there is time for things to work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 07:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:06 PM 6 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The fact is he was likely fitting as the 3rd pair left defense. He and his agent are selling him as a legit top four. That Vancouver may have been considering near or at $5m per season is high value and a major commitment from the team. that is still not a confirmed number from agent or Management. we do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted Saturday at 07:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:06 PM Getting depressing in here, on to another thread haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM 2 minutes ago, SilentSam said: I just don’t like the Myers signing at 3m. We could have saved 500k there. Without Z, he is going to have to step up big time and I hope he can handle it. They took a big gamble there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM Just now, Coconuts said: Yeah, I really don't get the beef with management. They made a very, very fair offer to Zadorov. Folks should blame Zadorov for chasing more money/term elsewhere, unlike other guys who took less to stick around. This is exactly what was just thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Yeah, I really don't get the beef with management. They made a very, very fair offer to Zadorov. Folks should blame Zadorov for chasing more money/term elsewhere, unlike other guys who took less to stick around. That number has not been verified by player agent or management 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:07 PM 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: that is still not a confirmed number from agent or Management. we do not know. Amazing how quickly people latch onto rumoured amounts and treat it as gospel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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