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[ARTICLE] What it might take to sign Nikita Zadorov and if it makes sense for the Canucks


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1 hour ago, Provost said:

This one is the big miss for me, I was fine walking away from Zadorov if the ask was too much.  What he signed for wasn’t too much. 

 

$5 million is at the upper end of what you should pay, and the term isn’t really what should break it considering his age and the future big rise in the cap with Arizona out of the equation and replaced by a bigger revenue team in Utah.

 

For our D, I like 

 

Hughes-Hronek

Zadorov-Juulsen

Soucy-Myers

 

a lot better than 

 

Hughes-Hronek

Soucy-Myers

Forbert-Juulsen

 

Still time to go, but our improved defence was a key last year.  Three solid pairings meant you didn’t have to ask too much from guys.  Now you are asking a whole ton from Soucy and Myers with a 3rd pairing you can’t trust for a lot of minutes.

This is why Zadorov was so important or at least a equal replacement. He was equally as much of a 2nd pairing LD as Soucy. With more offensive talent. Now we have two absolute bottom pairing guys with Forbort and Juulsen. I agree with you 1000% if this is fixed you will see that Soucy Myers pair suffer from eating more mins 

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14 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

Myers doesn’t affect our ability to sign Zadorov. At all. 

 

14 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

I still think 5 is over paying Zadorov by $1mill anything above 5 is insanity. 

 

14 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

And? I’m not ok with paying 6th dmen top 4 money. That is not what winning teams do. 

 

13 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

At 29 he pretty much is what he is and 5 is the cap for a guy like that.

 

we could recoup most of what he brings for less with either Edmunson or Dillon and have money for a top and middle six winger. 

 

13 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

The drunk ones usually are the ones to blow their wad over a small sample size, but I digress. 
 

anything over 4 is an over payment, anything over 5 is insane. 

 

5 hours ago, SilentSam said:

Never said it would be here in that quote 

 

2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

@SilentSam you laugh but am I wrong? We offered near 5 and he said no and 5 is $1mill overpaid despite your rock hard boner for him 

 

1 hour ago, SilentSam said:

Wrong .  
There has been no official announcement that he was offered 5 here.

 

I’ve stated that to you all along .

Wrong again because you also don’t know the term he was offered here .

Obviously the Bruins see his talents to pay him that money for his type of game.

That is the full value of this player.

 

The Bruins recognize that because they have a history with a player like it.

 

You saying it’s an overpay shows again,

you are wrong .

 

But you are right at one thing ,  I am laughing at you.

 

Myers was overpaid .

 


Here ya go PeeWee .

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1 minute ago, SilentSam said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Here ya go PeeWee .

How am I wrong for objecting to a C- signing? 
 

All you’ve proved is I drew a line on what he’s worth and stayed with it while you grossly overrate him. 

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42 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

How am I wrong for objecting to a C- signing? 
 

All you’ve proved is I drew a line on what he’s worth and stayed with it while you grossly overrate him. 


YOU think i grossly overrated him .

 

YOU think he’s a C- signing 

 

Others don’t seem to think so otherwise he’d be playing for less money , less term, and on the bottom pairing .

 

In Boston he won’t be .

 

See how you feel when Forbert and Myers regress or get injured .

 

Zadorovs Physical Fortitude has value, call it “Ironman category” .… 

the Bruins know that , and that term is where that value is.

 

Lengthy Injuries to D men stand out and can totally upset D balance.

 

Some of Myers money could have made the difference on signing Zads here.

but hey he’s gone .

 

We knew 2 days ago he wasn’t coming here after Alvin announced it .

 

Just before that I thought If we kept him Ghostebehere would have been a good replacement for Myers .

 

Ghost just signed a new contract at 3.2 but did hit FA.

I thought adding Ghost would have had 3 fantastic skating Dmen on 3 pairings.

 

Hughes 

Hroneck

Ghostibehere  

Zadorov

Soucy 

Juulsen 

Freidman

 

Above is a mosh pit of guys many Coaches would love to mix and match,.

In all situations .


Just now I see we grabbed Desharnais ,.

I don’t mind this,  again , another player being used as a plug that has more upside.

( no comparison to anyone).

I think our D Coaches recognize “upside” more than anyone, and I hope Vinny can push through to another level.

 

This is hockey , we all have our opinions.

 

but dude ?  

Why make any seem so ridiculous when it’s not .

If that’s how you want to FaceOff ,.

        it’s all you deserve back.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SilentSam said:


YOU think i grossly overrated him .

 

YOU think he’s a C- signing 

 

Others don’t seem to think so otherwise he’d be playing for less money , less term, and on the bottom pairing .

 

In Boston he won’t be .

 

See how you feel when Forbert and Myers regress or get injured .

 

Zadorovs Physical Fortitude has value, call it “Ironman category” .… 

the Bruins know that , and that term is where that value is.

 

Lengthy Injuries to D men stand out and can totally upset D balance.

 

Some of Myers money could have made the difference on signing Zads here.

but hey he’s gone .

 

We knew 2 days ago he wasn’t coming here after Alvin announced it .

 

Just before that I thought If we kept him Ghostebehere would have been a good replacement for Myers .

 

Ghost just signed a new contract at 3.2 but did hit FA.

I thought adding Ghost would have had 3 fantastic skating Dmen on 3 pairings.

 

Hughes 

Hroneck

Ghostibehere  

Zadorov

Soucy 

Juulsen 

Freidman

 

Above is a mosh pit of guys many Coaches would love to mix and match,.

In all situations .


Just now I see we grabbed Desharnais ,.

I don’t mind this,  again , another player being used as a plug that has more upside.

( no comparison to anyone).

I think our D Coaches recognize “upside” more than anyone, and I hope Vinny can push through to another level.

 

This is hockey , we all have our opinions.

 

but dude ?  

Why make any seem so ridiculous when it’s not .

If that’s how you want to FaceOff ,.

        it’s all you deserve back.

 

 

And paying older Desharnais $5 mill makes no sense. Not sure why you struggle with this. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

And paying older Desharnais $5 mill makes no sense. Not sure why you struggle with this. 
 

 


why , who is signing him at 5 ?

are we?

 

what are you assuming ?

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3 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Boston signed older Desharnais at 5 today. 
 

I’m not assuming anything. 

I just saw a Deharnais on the Canucks roster, I though it was the one from the Oilers?

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6 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Yea the one from the Canucks signed a 6x5 in Boston hope this helps 😉


Your comparing our new arrival “Deharnais “ to Zadorov?

 

im not .

 

im just saying our coaching staff might make a better player out of him.

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2 hours ago, SilentSam said:


Your comparing our new arrival “Deharnais “ to Zadorov?

 

im not .

 

im just saying our coaching staff might make a better player out of him.

While not a direct comparison they are on this team and in the coaches eyes bottom pair dmen. And yes I think 2 million for a bottom pair dman is better than 5. 
 

Boston wants to give him 5 and play in the top 4 fill yer boots 

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1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said:

While now a direct comparison they are on this team and in the coaches eyes bottom pair dmen. And yes I think 2 million for a bottom pair dman is better than 5. 
 

Boston wants to give him 5 and play in the top 4 fill yer boots 

 

Good point! It is an economical bottom pairing guy. A true top 4 still needs to be addressed. This was a decent rebound by management from the depth of despair and the emotional reactions to Zad.

 

Although he doesn't have the snarl and intimidation of Zad, he is good on the PK and I'm sure Foote and Gonchar can help him improve defensively and also help him like they did with Myers. 

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