PhillipBlunt Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 16 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: I highly doubt that he has ever been to Calgary. Likewise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 5 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: What happened to Colliton? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 .. and we have real goaltenders that deserve this man .. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: .. and we have real goaltenders that deserve this man .. If there was a group made to beg this guy to stay I'd be in it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 hours ago, The Lock said: If there was a group made to beg this guy to stay I'd be in it. based on this rumour , i doubt we have to beg , pretty sure he wants to stay here ,. this was the money he was looking for when he went to Calgary .. I think it more term at that figure.. or a little more money at that term. personally I’d go term to 6 years tradeable at year 5 ,. Big D age well . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SilentSam said: based on this rumour , i doubt we have to beg , pretty sure he wants to stay here ,. this was the money he was looking for when he went to Calgary .. I think it more term at that figure.. or a little more money at that term. personally I’d go term to 6 years tradeable at year 5 ,. Big D age well . I think if they went 4.5 x 6 years he would accept it or even 4 x 6 is more money and cap hit is the main issue for us he's looking for more total money obvi, which he deserves Edited May 27 by canucks curse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, canucks curse said: I think if they went 4.5 x 6 years he would accept it or even 4 x 6 is more money and cap hit is the main issue for us he's looking for more total money obvi, which he deserves The hardest thing with Zad is... is he the guy we saw in the playoffs who is quite like top 4 capable, or is he the guy he's been most of his career... a tweener 5/6 guy. Hard to justify giving that kind of term to a guy who is a bottom paring guy who can fill in in the top 4. I'm sure glad it's JR and PA making that decision and not JB lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just now, canucks curse said: I think if they went 4.5 x 6 years he would accept it even 5 x 6 years .. the big man is hanging out n Victoria this weekend apparently.. That’s a great sign ! Can someone take him Fishing up Coast .. He needs to see more of Beautiful British Columbia lol The more he gets to play this position on the PP or Xtra attacker, he will learn to position to face the shot for the best advantage. ( and turn those Ship Size Skates! They’re as wide as Skinners Pads !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOCKEYGOD77 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 YOU NEED ZAD AND DAKOTA FOR SURE ..THE CANUCKS WOULD BE TOO SOFT AND WOULD NOT EVEN BE CLOSE TO BEING A GOOD TEAM AGAIN..UNLESS YOU FIND SKILLED TOUGHER GUYS IM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS..NO WAY YOU PLAY SOFT HOCKEY. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 34 minutes ago, SilentSam said: based on this rumour , i doubt we have to beg , pretty sure he wants to stay here ,. this was the money he was looking for when he went to Calgary .. I think it more term at that figure.. or a little more money at that term. personally I’d go term to 6 years tradeable at year 5 ,. Big D age well . 4.5x5 = 22.5 total money so offer him 3.25 x 8 to get cap hit down lol = 26 I doubt he says no to that , then we can trade him when he is 35 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 4.5M for 5 years is not a bad deal. Pretty good actually even if he turns out to be a third pairing guy. The size and mobility is a rarity along with the willingness to throw his weight around. Some guys are big but don’t use their size. Myers play was much more physical and maybe that had to do with having bigger guys on the D corps. Zadorav, Soucy, myers, Cole, juulsen, all play a physical brand of hockey that has been missing from the Canucks lineup for ever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Zadarov is the real deal that we all dream one day Nikita Tryamkin would come back to play for us. We need to sign him and lock him in minimum for at least 4-5yrs. We would be stupid to let him sign with another team!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 So when are they announcing Zads re signing ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just now, canucks curse said: So when are they announcing Zads re signing ??? Likely Zadorov (us too) is waiting until July 1 so he can see what other clubs will offer. Then we can either match it or move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted May 27 Popular Post Share Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Likely Zadorov (us too) is waiting until July 1 so he can see what other clubs will offer. Then we can either match it or move on. I think he'd go for a 7 year deal at a lower AAV. He seems to value security and a nice place for his family, which you have to respect. 30 mil total, 7 years, 4.28 aav. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: I think he'd go for a 7 year deal at a lower AAV. He seems to value security and a nice place for his family, which you have to respect. 30 mil total, 7 years, 4.28 aav. JR did similar with Tanev years ago. I think he went six years and 20 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: JR did similar with Tanev years ago. I think he went six years and 20 mil? just looked it up, it was 5. The deal can be structured so big Z gets most of the money early, and make the last year easy to trade or buy out, or maybe he retires. Lock up Z, get Myers back on something friendly, trade Hronek to Carolina for new F toys, and then just make free agency about getting the best RHD you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 My offer to him is 5yr 4.5m cap hit with a signing bonus and some trade protection. If he wants 5m plus and 5yr or more unless we all of a sudden are willing to play him top 4 instead of Cole/Myers/Soucey(or with Soucy) then its too expensive for a big 3rd pairing D. He can skate, hit and has a good shot. He should be on the PP and in the top 4 imo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 11 hours ago, canucks curse said: 4.5x5 = 22.5 total money so offer him 3.25 x 8 to get cap hit down lol = 26 I doubt he says no to that , then we can trade him when he is 35 lol That's a yearly decrease in pay though, why would he do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Give him term, and it'll bring the AAV down. What is he legitimately worth per year? 30yo - $6M 31yo - $6M 32yo - $5.5M 33yo - $4.5M 34yo - $3M 35yo - $2M 36yo - $1M 37yo - $1M Total - $29M AAV - $3.625M We know we can't structure a contract like this, so it'd have to be a much more evenly spaced out contract. But the above numbers are realistically what he's worth for each of those 8 years. It guarantees him a pay cheque until he's 37 years old. Question is do we want to be paying him $3.625M as a cap hit until he's 37yo? The more likely route is Canucks offering a 5 or 6 year deal. Based on the above numbers, these would be the cap hits: 5 year deal - $5M AAV 6 year deal - $4.5M AAV Just my 2 cents, and Zadorov's millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 5 minutes ago, HKSR said: Give him term, and it'll bring the AAV down. What is he legitimately worth per year? 30yo - $6M 31yo - $6M 32yo - $5.5M 33yo - $4.5M 34yo - $3M 35yo - $2M 36yo - $1M 37yo - $1M Total - $29M AAV - $3.625M We know we can't structure a contract like this, so it'd have to be a much more evenly spaced out contract. But the above numbers are realistically what he's worth for each of those 8 years. It guarantees him a pay cheque until he's 37 years old. Question is do we want to be paying him $3.625M as a cap hit until he's 37yo? The more likely route is Canucks offering a 5 or 6 year deal. Based on the above numbers, these would be the cap hits: 5 year deal - $5M AAV 6 year deal - $4.5M AAV Just my 2 cents, and Zadorov's millions. I think he signs for the numbers you proposed, nice break down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 According to Irfaan Gaffar, the Vancouver Canucks offered Nikita Zadorov a four or five-year contract with an average annual value of $4.5 million, but it was turned down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) NVM Edited May 27 by MattJVD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 12 hours ago, canucks curse said: 4.5x5 = 22.5 total money so offer him 3.25 x 8 to get cap hit down lol = 26 I doubt he says no to that , then we can trade him when he is 35 lol I guarantee he says no to 3.25X8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Give him term, and it'll bring the AAV down. What is he legitimately worth per year? 30yo - $6M 31yo - $6M 32yo - $5.5M 33yo - $4.5M 34yo - $3M 35yo - $2M 36yo - $1M 37yo - $1M Total - $29M AAV - $3.625M We know we can't structure a contract like this, so it'd have to be a much more evenly spaced out contract. But the above numbers are realistically what he's worth for each of those 8 years. It guarantees him a pay cheque until he's 37 years old. Question is do we want to be paying him $3.625M as a cap hit until he's 37yo? The more likely route is Canucks offering a 5 or 6 year deal. Based on the above numbers, these would be the cap hits: 5 year deal - $5M AAV 6 year deal - $4.5M AAV Just my 2 cents, and Zadorov's millions. I love this!!!! Good job on the break down. Hopefully management does this and he takes this deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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