canucks curse Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, syntheticity said: You're being kind. Not a chance he's going to take a pay cut on his next contract. He already turned down 4.5k from the Canucks... He turned down 4.5x 4 or 5 not 4.5 x 6 Edited May 28 by canucks curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 6 hours ago, spook007 said: Z reportedly already said no to 4.5x5, Joshua unlikely signing for 3, Myers unlikely foe 2.25, and Lindy never for 6.5 look at the term and totsl money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, canucks curse said: look at the term and totsl money Yup. It’s all about total dollars. Once that’s agreed to then PA can negotiate a term that lowers the yearly cap allocation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 17 hours ago, steviewonder20 said: I think the pressure with Hronek is on us, not him. If he goes to arbitration (July 5th) then he’s a UFA the following year. We need to trade him this week. Priority is Zads and not Hronek and big Z wants to stay (he’s also less grumpy with the media, lol). No pressure on us. Simply qualify him, and conr=tinue to work on a contract or trade. Do you think a player likes risking injury on a QO? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 39 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: No pressure on us. Simply qualify him, and conr=tinue to work on a contract or trade. Do you think a player likes risking injury on a QO? I think Hronek has arbitration rights, which complicates it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, canucks curse said: look at the term and totsl money Ok cheers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 44 minutes ago, stawns said: I think Hronek has arbitration rights, which complicates it Arbitration is not a good option for him if he wants a longterm deal. If he does to Arbitration he'll be guaranteed 1 yr of big money and risks Klingberging his future earnings. In my opinion he'll force a trade before he goes that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanOriginal Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, Hammertime said: Give the man 5 I think he will be closer to 6 than 5 and I'm fine with that. 5 is fine, 6 or closer to 6 is too much. Too much in the sense that there'd be less money to sign a player that fits the teams need. Less money to sign other players means more trades would be needed to get players a reasonable cap which means less picks and assets for continued growth and success. Something the past regime did with nicks and assets and cap and look where this team is at now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 21 minutes ago, fuzzy said: Arbitration is not a good option for him if he wants a longterm deal. If he does to Arbitration he'll be guaranteed 1 yr of big money and risks Klingberging his future earnings. In my opinion he'll force a trade before he goes that route. Klingberg is the exception, not the rule. I'd be willing to bet he'd be happy to take a 1 year arbitration reward and get to UFA status next season to cash in 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 It might be better to plan to have none of 'our' ufa/s come back. They will all want more money, and most can show they 'deserve' it. maybe look for replacements, and not re-signings. would really suck to lose them, but if you take to long trying to sign them, the other options maybe gone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 if that's the case, thanks for everything Zad. Ride off into the sunset and allow another franchise to fall in love and pay you the bank. We can't afford that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 55 minutes ago, Gurn said: It might be better to plan to have none of 'our' ufa/s come back. They will all want more money, and most can show they 'deserve' it. maybe look for replacements, and not re-signings. would really suck to lose them, but if you take to long trying to sign them, the other options maybe gone. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 16 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: if that's the case, thanks for everything Zad. Ride off into the sunset and allow another franchise to fall in love and pay you the bank. We can't afford that. I'm thinking that is milstein putting that in dhali's ear. Hoping the canucks hear that and think they are getting a deal at 5 mil times 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Coryberg said: I'm thinking that is milstein putting that in dhali's ear. Hoping the canucks hear that and think they are getting a deal at 5 mil times 6. Guess we'll find out in a little bit. I like Zad, but I don't think overpaying him is a good idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 19 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: if that's the case, thanks for everything Zad. Ride off into the sunset and allow another franchise to fall in love and pay you the bank. We can't afford that. Millstein still salty about Kuzmenko? This is why I don’t like dealing with these kinds of agents. They have so few high profile clients that they need to make sure the maximize every dollar so they can get paid themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackleford Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I think Z has another level to get to. In saying that, there's no way we can afford to give him term AND dollars. 5m x 6y seems like the top we should go and that's a good chunk of USD that'll go further here in Vancouver. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 8 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said: I think Z has another level to get to. In saying that, there's no way we can afford to give him term AND dollars. 5m x 6y seems like the top we should go and that's a good chunk of USD that'll go further here in Vancouver. Because he has another level is the reason you pay the man and lock him up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackleford Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 39 minutes ago, fuzzy said: Because he has another level is the reason you pay the man and lock him up. Agreed. But we have to draw a line in the sand somewhere and there's an amount where it doesn't make sense to sign him based on potentially another level. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntheticity Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 5 hours ago, canucks curse said: He turned down 4.5x 4 or 5 not 4.5 x 6 4.5 x 6 seems well below what he could likely get in free agency. I have difficulty imagining a plausible scenario where his side doesn't start at 5m+, assuming longer term, with the price tag going up for a shorter term contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 6 hours ago, canucks curse said: He turned down 4.5x 4 or 5 not 4.5 x 6 4 hours ago, spook007 said: Ok cheers... Yep, maybe some Russian Cheers might do the trick..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 With the 6mil rumors, it's time to move on. Thanks for the memories Zads. Welcome home Brenden Dillon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 5 hours ago, BC_Hawk said: No pressure on us. Simply qualify him, and conr=tinue to work on a contract or trade. Do you think a player likes risking injury on a QO? https://canucksarmy.com/news/hronek-deadline-why-canucks-cant-top-rfa-arbitration-stage-summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, fuzzy said: Because he has another level is the reason you pay the man and lock him up. He's 29 years old, everyone knows what and who he is..........he's not going to suddenly develop his game at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, stawns said: He's 29 years old, everyone knows what and who he is..........he's not going to suddenly develop his game at this point. I'd argue, he did just that in the playoffs. The key is playing like that consistently. I think he's transitioning from the defenceman he thought he was into the player he actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, fuzzy said: I'd argue, he did just that in the playoffs. The key is playing like that consistently. I think he's transitioning from the defenceman he thought he was into the player he actually is. I think people need to be realistic and probably concede that he had a great playoff, but that's not going to be his standard and he might never perform at that level again......likely not. You have to make your offer based on the entirety of his career, not 13 games Edited May 28 by stawns 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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