RWMc1 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 55 minutes ago, NoCupSyndrome said: I don't the the technical specifics but if Poolman's cap hit fits into their opening day roster (sure someone can describe it better), they will be able accrue LTIR space during the season, allowing for more space to acquire players at the TDL. OEL's buyout is just on the books unfortunately. Yes, but their ltir space is $2.5m and OEL's penalty is $2.4..........so it's like having no ltir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, German Canuck said: Horrible top 6 I disagree, Garland is a remarkably consistent scorer who puts up 50 points a year on the third line.........I'm betting he's good for 15-20 more than that on Petey's line. Joshua, hard to say, but that's be a tough line to play against......... Miller the driver/retriever, Boeser the shooter and DJ the garbage clean up Most importantly, it leaves money for other areas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, German Canuck said: Horrible top 6 ya ppl seem to want quantity of average player over low quantity of quality players for some reason.. i mean if we trot out a line up where we have no stars and everyone is making exact same cap hit you think we'll win a cup? i don't think we even make the playoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, stawns said: I disagree, Garland is a remarkably consistent scorer who puts up 50 points a year on the third line.........I'm betting he's good for 15-20 more than that on Petey's line. Joshua, hard to say, but that's be a tough line to play against......... Miller the driver/retriever, Boeser the shooter and DJ the garbage clean up Most importantly, it leaves money for other areas. 70 point Garly? if he had that potential, why hasn't it been used more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: 70 point Garly? if he had that potential, why hasn't it been used more? Well, his last 4 years in van 39 points in 49 games 52 pointd 47 points 46 points Pretty much in third line duty. Is it out of the realm of possibility he gets 15-20 points over the course of a season? That's like an extra point every 4 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted June 23 Popular Post Share Posted June 23 Just now, stawns said: Well, his last 4 years in van 39 points in 49 games 52 pointd 47 points 46 points Pretty much in third line duty. Is it out of the realm of possibility he gets 15-20 points over the course of a season? That's like an extra point every 4 games. dunno, can he produce like this against harder matchups? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Bob Long said: dunno, can he produce like this against harder matchups? Agreed. He has shown no chemistry with Petey or Miller. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 35 minutes ago, Canuck You said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: dunno, can he produce like this against harder matchups? It's been tried over the years a lot. He hasn't really been able to hold down any top 6 opportunity he has been granted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 7 minutes ago, Bob Long said: dunno, can he produce like this against harder matchups? And that’s it with Garland. He’s a very good third line player. If he was a top six guy Tocchet would use him in that role. IMHAO that’s why it’s been so hard for PA to trade Garland. Other teams see him exactly like we do; a third line winger. We need a Benning like GM who thinks Garland is a top six player. You know. A moran. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 15 minutes ago, fuzzy said: Agreed. He has shown no chemistry with Petey or Miller. Disagree, he was great with miller. The problem is BB not RT never left him there long enough to develop chemistry. It takes time to learn how to play with players, especially Petey. Garland might have the best hockey IQ on the team in that context.........he'd figure petey out pretty quick, imo. I think too many people are mesmerized by the shiny trinket on the market and not looking at deeper issues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 9 hours ago, HKSR said: He's not gonna get over $5M. I dunno how they get those kinda projections lol He is for sure getting over 5 million at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, German Canuck said: Horrible top 6 Ya that is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, J-23 said: He is for sure getting over 5 million at least. I'll wager you on it. He is coming off a 40 point season. If that's worth $5M+, then Dakota Joshua will be getting close to $5M. There's no logic to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: And that’s it with Garland. He’s a very good third line player. If he was a top six guy Tocchet would use him in that role. IMHAO that’s why it’s been so hard for PA to trade Garland. Other teams see him exactly like we do; a third line winger. We need a Benning like GM who thinks Garland is a top six player. You know. A moran. Tocchet is a depth coach and felt garland was more of a play driver than boeser or mikheyev hence he was moved down to drive the 3rd and did heck of a job doing it, imagine if he was feeding miller and petey with his insane puck retrieval rate, he’s never had an extended look with the top 6 and I agree with Stawns he has potential to be around a 70 point guy in the top 6 and power play time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 5 minutes ago, stawns said: Disagree, he was great with miller. The problem is BB not RT never left him there long enough to develop chemistry. It takes time to learn how to play with players, especially Petey. Garland might have the best hockey IQ on the team in that context.........he'd figure petey out pretty quick, imo. I think too many people are mesmerized by the shiny trinket on the market and not looking at deeper issues Well, if we buy our Mik, maybe we get both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Captain insano said: Tocchet is a depth coach and felt garland was more of a play driver than boeser or mikheyev hence he was moved down to drive the 3rd and did heck of a job doing it, imagine if he was feeding miller and petey with his insane puck retrieval rate, he’s never had an extended look with the top 6 and I agree with Stawns he has potential to be around a 70 point guy in the top 6 and power play time Like others have said it’s been tried but hasn’t worked. Why would it be any different now? I like Garland he’s one of my favourite players on the team, but this seems like a major reach. Edited June 24 by J-23 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 This thread sure gets into non-Zadorov talk. On that note, a hypothetical question: if we could have had Tanev for Pettersson (the defenseman) and a second rounder to Calgary, and having Tanev would have been enough to put us in the finals, would you have made that trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'll wager you on it. He is coming off a 40 point season. If that's worth $5M+, then Dakota Joshua will be getting close to $5M. There's no logic to that. This is going to be the new standard now with the cap increasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 7 minutes ago, J-23 said: This is going to be the new standard now with the cap increasing. It's gone up 5% since last year. That's not equivalent to jumping from $4M to $5M. That would be a 25% increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 51 minutes ago, stawns said: I disagree, Garland is a remarkably consistent scorer who puts up 50 points a year on the third line.........I'm betting he's good for 15-20 more than that on Petey's line. Joshua, hard to say, but that's be a tough line to play against......... Miller the driver/retriever, Boeser the shooter and DJ the garbage clean up Most importantly, it leaves money for other areas. Garland is a 3rd liner who gets points off of the other team’s bottom 6. He can drive the play on the 3rd line so that’s where he belongs. He absolutely is not a top 6 player. Only if injuries occur. He’s never played 18-19 minutes a night against top competition and won’t be as effective. Plus he has zero chemistry with Petey or Miller. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Captain insano said: Tocchet is a depth coach and felt garland was more of a play driver than boeser or mikheyev hence he was moved down to drive the 3rd and did heck of a job doing it, imagine if he was feeding miller and petey with his insane puck retrieval rate, he’s never had an extended look with the top 6 and I agree with Stawns he has potential to be around a 70 point guy in the top 6 and power play time Garland is only effective as his own play driver on the 3rd line. He’s not effective playing with other play drivers like Miller and Petey. Plus, Miller already has his winger in Boeser. And we have Lekkerimäki coming to play with Petey. So the right side is full. Also, Garland doesn’t get enough PP1 time to ever get 70 points. Edited June 24 by Elias Pettersson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Garland is a 3rd liner who gets points off of the other team’s bottom 6. He can drive the play on the 3rd line so that’s where he belongs. He absolutely is not a top 6 player. Only if injuries occur. He’s never played 18-19 minutes a night against top competition and won’t be as effective. Plus he has zero chemistry with Petey or Miller. Well said. Love what Gar brings but the Canucks need better in the top six to move on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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