[GDT] Vancouver Canucks vs Montreal Canadiens - Le Habs for the Heathens! 7PM PST (10PM EST) March 21 ... the We Appreciate the Overseas Fans that Start watching at 3AM Game!

[Rocket-68]

 A Personal Note: I for one appreciate the fans that follow our beloved Canucks and post in these GDT religiously even though the games start very late in the evening or early in the morning, you know who you are. I lived in Australia for a few years and a 7PM game was a 12 noon - 2PM start for me so not bad. Others in Europe not so much. Thus to those Canuck Fans I raise a glass of 15 yr old Dalmore in your honour, and express my gratitude for your helping keep our little community alive by joining in at ungodly early hours for you ... we are all CANUCKS! For those that are outside of "normal" hours for us on the west coast, @OldFaithfulcap for example, please post where you are located and perhaps a short story / note about you so we can learn a bit more. If you are bashful, then just a brief note of where you are dialing in from is fine. 

 

Me - Proud Ukrainian / Russian (downplay the latter for now), in Kelowna but bounce back to Oz often ... Canuck fan from as far back as 1973 when I came over from the land of Kangaroos when I was barely 5. GO CANUCKS GO!

 

A Random Hockey Story

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Stan Smyl surprises Canucks super fan at her 100th birthday party

 

An avid Vancouver Cauncks fan got a big surprise during her 100th birthday party when team legend Stan Smyl popped in to help her celebrate her first century.

 

The family of 100-year-old Esther Roach arranged for Smyl to stop by her birthday celebration at West Vancouver’s Westerleigh Parc retirement living facility last week. Roach is reportedly a die-hard Canucks fan who still wears a team jersey on most game days. Judging her smile, she was thrilled to see “Steamer” show up at her party.

Smyl played 13 seasons in the NHL, all with the Canucks, serving as the team’s captain for eight seasons. The winger retired in 1991 with 673 points in 896 regular season games, leading the franchise in games played, goals, assists and points (his records have since been broken by both Sedin twins). He was the first Canucks player to have his jersey number retired by the team.

 

*** SMYL A CLASS ACT and a CANUCK THROUGH AND THROUGH ***

 

Canucks: Stan Smyl changes roles, with no regrets

"Cancer is a brutal disease," Stan Smyl says of his wife's passing. A year later, he's taking on another new role for the Vancouver Canucks.

Author of the article: Patrick Johnston

Published Oct 19, 2023  

 

After 45 years playing and working in hockey with the Vancouver Canucks, Stan Smyl is stepping back. He was the team's vice-president until recently, but is shifting into a team ambassador role. 

 

The code in hockey says rookies shouldn’t show up veterans in training camp. Or rather, if you do, be ready for what comes next. Stan Smyl knew the code. But to him, a bigger code mattered — he was a rookie, and if he wanted to make the team, the coaches needed to see he wanted it.

 

 

He knew no other way.

 

And so the new guy, fresh off winning MVP at the Memorial Cup, just 5-foot-8 but with a heart twice as tall and a desire three times bigger than that, put his shoulder into Harold Snepsts, a player who was as tough as they come, sending the big defenceman hard into the glass during training camp.

 

 

 

Canucks owner Francesco Aquilini and Stan Smyl in 2021. Smyl announced he will shift into a team ambassador role. 

PHOTO BY ARLEN REDEKOP /PNG

 

Smyl wanted everyone to know he was as tough as they come.

 

Randy Holt’s hockey card told one thing: He once posted 400 penalty minutes in a season. There was no one tougher than Randy Holt.

 

He knew the code. Snepsts was a veteran and his defence partner. Smyl needed to be put in his place.

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With Holt about to rag doll this punk rookie, Snepsts stepped in.

 

“No, no,” he declared. “We need this.”

 

“Steamer” they called him, a name he had picked up as a 16-year-old, in his lone season for the Bellingham Blazers of the BCJHL. That steam engine-like heart and hustle carried him to the New Westminster Bruins after the Blazers’ season ended, with Smyl jumping right into the Bruins’ squad for the 1975 Memorial Cup.

 

The Bruins played in four straight Memorial Cups. Steamer was at the centre of them all.

 

In junior, in exhibition, whatever the game, there he was, giving his all, throwing hits, being a pest, just as fans would always come to expect.

 

 

Vancouver Canucks vs New York Islanders in 1982 Stanley Cup playoffs: Canucks Stan Smyl (left) and Darcy Rota swarm Islanders goalie Billy Smith. Dennis Potvin tries to clear puck.

 

Later that pre-season, in an exhibition game in Victoria versus the Los Angeles Kings, Smyl was still going.

 

Midway through the games, the Kings and Canucks lined up for a face-off, right below the press box. Reporters heard one of L.A.’s veterans shout at Smyl: “Quit running around, Rook, it’s only exhibition.”

 

To which the 20-year-old Smyl replied: “If you can’t take it, get off the f–king ice!”

 

Smyl has been a Vancouver Canuck for 45 years. Whatever the colour of the jersey, he’s bled it.

 

 

Vancouver Canucks (from left) Stan Smyl, Tony Tanti and Jim Benning protest to referee Ron Hoggarth during NHL action at the Pacific Coliseum filed January 28, 1987. (Craig Hodge/Vancouver Sun) 

PHOTO BY CRAIG HODGE /Vancouver Sun

 

He has cared about the team and about the people around him. That loyalty to others has earned him a mountain of respect in return.

 

Cancer, though, doesn’t care about tough. And it doesn’t respect anyone.

 

A year ago, Smyl lost Jennifer, his wife of 42 years, to cancer.

 

The Steamer’s voice quivers when he’s asked about Jennifer, who he met in the late 1970s, while she was working at the old Severin’s Restaurant in Burnaby. (Don’t look, it’s gone now.)

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“Very, very difficult. You think things would get easier in life,” he said. “It’s really hard to explain. You know, you talk to people that go through it. People that don’t always cherish the memories, and all that. That is just starting to come to me.”

 

Having his kids — Jillian, Natalie and Spencer — nearby has been really important, he added. They all live on the North Shore. He’s a grandfather now too, a role he relishes.

 

“It’s just making sure your family’s alright, that we’re all moving in the same direction, that we’re supporting one another, “he said. “It’s day to day. It’s day to day, but all good.”

 

Jennifer told him to keep working. And he did try over the past year.

 

“She said when she was gone, she really wanted me to stay part of it. It’s important to keep busy, because the busier you are, the better it is,” he said.

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“But because of what she went through, I didn’t feel I was being as productive as I wanted to be, because you’re not here. As much as you think you’re coming to work through that time, you’re just not there. And I still sort of feel that way.

 

“It definitely had an impact on my decision.”

 

He was often on road trips last season, a second voice for president Jim Rutherford and general manager Patrik Allvin.

 

Their support meant a lot to him.

 

So did the support of ownership.

 

“Luigi and Francesco, Roberto, Paulo and the whole Aquilini family have been so wonderful for me. And so have Jim and Patrik. They’ve been really good and supportive with everything that I’ve been through,” he said.

 

“Cancer is a brutal disease.”

 

 

Jennifer and Stan Smyl in 2009. PHOTO BY FRED LEE

 

Rutherford has spoken up more than once about Smyl’s impact on the Canucks.

 

“We appreciate what Stan does for the Canucks and he has been a true professional to work with,” Rutherford said after Smyl announced earlier this month he would be stepping back.

 

He could probably have stayed in his vice-president role, but with a contract coming up last June, he approached Rutherford and president of business operations Michael Doyle about stepping back.

 

And so Smyl will join Darcy Rota, Dave Babych, Jyrki Lumme and Kirk McLean as one of the team’s official ambassadors.

 

Smyl played with Rota, the latter three were both teammates and coaching charges. They’re all tied together, fittingly, by Pat Quinn.

 

Quinn took over the Canucks a decade into Smyl’s career.

 

The big Irishman was rebuilding the team and kept Smyl, the heart and soul of the team, the undisputed fan favourite, around.

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His last two seasons he didn’t play much.

 

But he started to learn the game off the ice. And when he retired in the summer of 1991, he stepped up onto the coach’s bench to begin a 32-year sojourn through hockey management.

 

He’s been an assistant coach, a minor league head coach, a development coach, a collegiate scout, an interim general manager, and a vice-president.

 

He learned something from everyone, be they a trainer, another player, a manager, a coach.

 

“Pat was unbelievable,” he said of Quinn. “He cared about everyone around the team. He just always had time for them. His door was always open. And I don’t know how he managed what he did, like having a coach and basically the president. I don’t know how he did it because I walked by his office many times. And there were so many different people in his office. I don’t know when he got his work done.”

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“I think he always learned something from whatever conversation to have. If you’re listening, there’s something to take away from that,” he added.

 

Smyl, it’s clear, is a very good listener. Everyone you talk to about the Steamer makes note of it. He cares about you, they say.

 

Pat Quinn shakes hands with Stan Smyl as Trevor Linden, Cliff Ronning and Gino Odjick stand by prior to NHL Heritage Classic Vancouver Canucks vs Ottawa Senatorsat BC Place Stadium in Vancouver, BC, March 2, 2014. (Arlen Redekop / PNG staff photo) 

PHOTO BY ARLEN REDEKOP /PNG

 

For Chris Tanev, Smyl was there at the beginning and the end. Smyl was heavily involved with recruiting Tanev to the Canucks in 2010.

 

And a decade later, when Tanev was left without an offer from the Canucks in free agency and ended up signing with the Calgary Flames, Smyl was the last call Tanev made.

 

“Steamer is a very loyal person. He really stands up for what is right,” Tanev told Postmedia last week.

 

“I think everything he’s involved in usually turns out good and I honestly can’t say enough good things about him. He’s someone you could call when you really needed any help or advice. He’d always be ready to talk,” he added.

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“You learn how much of a leader he was. How hard he worked. How good have a player he was … once you learn about how much he’s done for the city and the organization — especially when you’re really young — it’s like an ‘Oh my’ moment. Even though you may not know him or may not have seen him play, the aura around him stands out. And then as you get to know him through the years, he becomes someone you can lean on and you respect.

 

“I think if I called him today, he’d answer and then be there (for you) in a heartbeat.”

 

Tanev credited Smyl and former Canucks executive Dave Gagner as being crucial in his decision to sign with Vancouver in 2010.

 

Jonathan Bates, a former Canucks collegiate scout, first put Smyl and Gagner on to Tanev.

 

Bates said being able to call Smyl his friend was one of the greatest accomplishments in his life.

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“Everybody knows the player. But I had the privilege of getting to know the person,” he told Postmedia. “He is truly one of the greatest people I’ve ever come across. We talk about professional habits when we scout hockey players. Stan has professional habits in all walks of life.”

 

Smyl helped smooth the transition between eras, after Jim Benning was dismissed as GM on Dec. 6, 2021.

 

Initially, Smyl was installed as interim GM. He would lead a search for a new hockey boss, team chairman Francesco Aquilini declared.

 

Four days later, Jim Rutherford was hired as president of hockey operations. Smyl may not have gotten to lead a search, but his presence did a lot for the players.

 

 

 

Former Vancouver Canucks captain Stan Smyl skates onto the ice during the 50th anniversary season home opener at Rogers Arena, Vancouver, Oct. 9 2019. 

PHOTO BY GERRY KAHRMANN /PNG

 

The team was struggling badly on the ice. Fans were in open revolt off the ice. The vibes were chaotic at best, nightmarish at worst.

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Smyl was a rock in a sea of chaos, Canucks veteran Brock Boeser said.

 

“Things were crazy. And just to dial us back in and talk about what it really means to be part of this organization, because it was such a shitshow, it’s just nice to hear from a guy like that.

 

Boeser first got to know Smyl at Canucks development camp in 2015. He made his NHL debut less than two years later.

 

Smyl has become a fixture in his life, especially as Boeser’s father declined in health.

 

“Especially the past couple of years,” Boeser said. “He’s a really good guy that cares about you.”

 

The passion he showed on the ice and the care and concern he’s shown off are all tied together by a simple principle: respect.

 

Smyl respects the game. And he respects everyone he comes into contact with.

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“That’s just who I am. I don’t see it any other way,” he said. “I’ve always cared about the players. I always cared about the people that work within the organization. And I always cared about the fan base. I care about you, the reporters. And that’s just who I am.”

 

It’s a trait he picked up growing up in St. Paul, Alberta, where his dad, of Polish and Ukrainian extraction, ran a car dealership for 50 years.

 

His dad was successful in business because he built relationships with the people around him, with the farmers who needed vehicles to run their farms.

 

“I always looked at how would I like to be treated? If I was in a certain position, or a player? How would I like to be treated. That’s … that’s me. I would just like to be treated the same as everyone else.”

 

Overview

 

Always a good time when Montreal is in town given the number of the Le Habs in the stands. While trending in opposite directions with the Canucks sporting a 43-18-8 record versus the Candiens with a 25-31-12 report card, there are no easy games in the NHL - even though this should be a win for the Canucks. With a W in the win column, our beloved Canucks will 96 points, the first time since 2014-2015 they have moved past the magic 95 points playoff mark.

 

The Canucks started the season with an 8-1 thumping of the Oilers followed up shortly with a 10-1 pounding of the Sharks. From there, scoring 5 goals a game was fairly routine and while many predicted a regression, that just hasn't happened quite like many predicted. Yes, defensive play against the Canucks did tighten up but that was more of a league wide fact rather than a Canucks-centric phenom as teams tightened with for the playoff positioning on the line. Canucks are clicking along at a 3.49 Goals a Game pace good for 5th overall in the league while allowing 2.67 goals per game also good for 5th overall league wide.

 

 

Quote of the day:

“I think four-on-five we’ve been OK. Honestly, it hasn’t been that bad. I think with the optics of it, it’s because of the five-on-threes,” Tocchet said. “We’ve had some good stretches, and there’ll be a week where we get a bunch of those anomaly ones. So can we be better? Of course.”

 

Media

You know the drill, BUY A TICKET and go support our Boyz, bring your Signs, VUVUZELAS, Accordians, etc , and see if we can't raise the decibel level to 140dB's. However, be respectful of anything related to Martin St. Louis, we are not heathens after all and he is part of hockey family. Otherwise go to your local watering hole to support your team and swill some beer.

 

TV: Sportsnet Pacific, TSN2, RDS

Radio: SportsNet 650

Streaming: lots on various Reddit threads, here are a few sites (results may vary)

https://reddit.nhlbite.com/live

https://nhlwebcast.com/

https://v2.sportsurge.to/nhlstreams

https://nhlstream.net/

 

By the Numbers

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Source: https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/teams/vancouver-canucks-players-2023-24-nhl-stats.html

 

 

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/teams/montreal-canadiens-players-2023-24-nhl-stats.html 

 

What the Bookies are Saying

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Canucks vs. Canadiens Odds

We have researched the best betting odds in America for this game, which are listed here:

• Puck Line: Canadiens +1.5 (-164), Canucks -1.5 (+150)
• Moneyline: Canadiens +145, Canucks -160
• Total: Over/Under 6.5 (-124/+115)
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Odds are correct at the time of publication and subject to change.

 

The Canadiens are +1.5 underdogs versus the Canucks, with -164 at FanDuel Sportsbook the best odds currently available.

For the favored Canucks (-1.5) to cover the puck line, PointsBet has the best odds currently on offer at +150.

 

DraftKings Sportsbook currently has the best moneyline odds for the Canadiens at +145. That means you can bet $100 to profit $145, earning a total payout of $245, if they win.

Meanwhile, PointsBet currently has the best moneyline odds for the Canucks at -160, where you can risk $160 to win $100, for a total payout of $260, if they come out on top.

The Over/Under for total goals scored sits at 6.5 with FanDuel Sportsbook, which currently has the best odds for the Over at -124, while PointsBet currently has the best odds for the Under at +115.

 

As always, check out all the online sportsbooks that are available in your state for the best NHL odds and lines.

According to DimersBOT, the Canadiens (+1.5) have a 62% chance of covering the puck line, while the Over/Under total of 6.5 goals has a 51% chance of going Under.

Best Bets: Canucks vs. Canadiens

• Puck Line: Canadiens +1.5 @ -164 via FanDuel Sportsbook (62% probability)
• Moneyline: Canadiens @ +145 via DraftKings Sportsbook
• Total: Under 6.5 @ +115 via PointsBet (51% probability) 

 

Canucks vs. Canadiens Prediction

Dimers has full betting coverage of Sunday's Canucks vs. Canadiens game, including pregame predictions, free picks, and live updates.

Canucks vs. Canadiens Player Props

Who will score an anytime goal in Canucks vs. Canadiens? The data is in.

Featured below are the most likely first goal and most likely anytime goal scorers for both the Canucks and Canadiens.

And you know what, we provide this information to you for FREE to help you discover the best prop picks for Sunday's game.

According to DimersBOT, Vancouver's Elias Pettersson is most likely to score the first goal in Canucks vs. Canadiens.

DimersBOT gives Pettersson a 7.1% chance of scoring the first goal at Bell Centre, while the Canucks star is a 37.6% chance of netting an anytime goal.

Scroll down for the complete list of first and anytime goal scorer probabilities.

First Goal Scorer Probabilities

Vancouver Canucks

• Elias Pettersson: 7.1% probability
• J.T. Miller: 6.3% probability
• Brock Boeser: 6.2% probability
• Andrei Kuzmenko: 5.8% probability
• Ilya Mikheyev: 4.5% probability

Montreal Canadiens

• Cole Caufield: 6.1% probability
• Nick Suzuki: 5.1% probability
• Sean Monahan: 4.7% probability
• Josh Anderson: 4.0% probability
• Alex Newhook: 3.9% probability

Anytime Goal Scorer Probabilities

Vancouver Canucks

• Elias Pettersson: 37.6% probability
• Brock Boeser: 34.3% probability
• Andrei Kuzmenko: 33.9% probability
• J.T. Miller: 33.2% probability
• Ilya Mikheyev: 27.4% probability

Montreal Canadiens

• Cole Caufield: 33.2% probability
• Nick Suzuki: 30.9% probability
• Sean Monahan: 25.2% probability
• Josh Anderson: 23.7% probability
• Alex Newhook: 21.9% probability

Remember, DimersBOT updates often, so keep an eye on this page for the latest betting insights ahead of Canucks vs. Canadiens on Sunday November 12, 2023.

 

 

Matchup Info

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Da Roster

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Da Zebras

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Now for some fun stuff

Canucks in the 70's

 

 

 

1971-72 Canadiens vs Canucks

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 21 by Rocket-68

[Rocket-68]

Reserved.

 

Edited March 22 by Rocket-68

[Canucklehead]

Lets goo. Get another win streak going.

[Ghostsof1915]

Bril is going to be happy with this one. Two of her favorites going at it.

[ABNuck]

Crazy to watch that old footage from the 70's and compare to now...the game today is so much faster, the hits bigger (due to the speed I guess), the tactics are superior, the players bigger, passing and shooting harder and more accurate...the list is endless (and the players are in much better condition today than back then). Crazy hard game nowadays at the NHL level.

[RU SERIOUS]

30 minutes ago, Canucklehead said:

Lets goo. Get another win streak going.

That would be wise, especially with 7 teams within 2 point of each other including us - all of whom are vying to get home ice adavantage which can be the difference maker in the playoffs!    Go canucks go !

[RWMc1]

Canucks win 5-2.

 

Go Canucks Go!!!!!

 

[Dumb Nuck]

The Habs are hab-beens, easy win for us.

[Rip The Mesh]

There was always going to be a time when Pettersson got ++++++/ +++er back!

 

 

[ReylOrca]

2 hours ago, Canucklehead said:

Lets goo. Get another win streak going.

 

[Snoop Hogg]

3 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Bril is going to be happy with this one. Two of her favorites going at it.

Fighting for her loyalty!

[brilac]

3 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Bril is going to be happy with this one. Two of her favorites going at it.

 

Oh my gosh @Ghostsof1915 !! The Habs will be in town on Sunday, down the I-5! 

 

It's like Christmas!! I already have my outfit picked out! ~ A Habs shirt with LOVE LOVE LOVE all over it, a Habs watch, and a Habs hat! I cannot wear my Habs jersey because Guy Lafleur signed it when I met him back in 2017, and it is precious to me! 

 

BUT BUT for this game ~ the Canucks game, my two favorites will be going at it for a win. Go Team Go~ !

 

Edit:  Oh gosh, I'm disappointed. I went to my mailbox to get the Habs watch I ordered, and it is a Habs smartwatch band... I checked my order, and that is what I ordered  At least I have my Habs accessories.  I do have a Habs watch somewhere, the battery is dead, so maybe I will have the battery replaced before Sunday, and hang onto the band in case I ever get a smartwatch. And come to think of it, I think I have two Habs watches that both the batteries are dead. Gosh, I need to find my accessories!

 

That's enough of me. I'm just planning for Sunday's game in Seattle. 

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[PhillipBlunt]

Destroy these poutine addled, petit Pepsi swilling, smoked meat humpin frogettes. 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

42 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Destroy these poutine addled, petit Pepsi swilling, smoked meat humpin frogettes. 

Pumpkin pie hair cutted freaks 

[IBatch]

1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Destroy these poutine addled, petit Pepsi swilling, smoked meat humpin frogettes. 

p

[spook007]

Just win and get their mojo back in time for the play offs. 

[Alflives]

2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Destroy these poutine addled, petit Pepsi swilling, smoked meat humpin frogettes. 

Do the Doodle Bugs have any French Fries on their club? 

[Sativika]

6 hours ago, ABNuck said:

Crazy to watch that old footage from the 70's and compare to now...the game today is so much faster, the hits bigger (due to the speed I guess), the tactics are superior, the players bigger, passing and shooting harder and more accurate...the list is endless (and the players are in much better condition today than back then). Crazy hard game nowadays at the NHL level.

 

Yea. No helmets, visors, composite sticks, no adverts on the boards or ice surface, no distracting virtual ads..................It was a different era to be sure. 

Checking out those vids got me thinking of the '72 Summit Series. In regards to the difference in conditioning back then and now.

 

The Russians back then had it right. They were ahead of their time compared to the ol' NHL weren't they? Seems the old NHL was still a beer league, huh.

 

Also you mention how the game was slower then. That's certainly noticeable. Even the pace of PWHL games looks faster. Obviously better conditioned athletes in both the modern NHL and PWHL. 

 

Rocket-68. Thanks for posting those vids, dude.

 

Make our '70s Canuck Alumni proud and beat those pesky Habs.

Go Canucks Go!!!!!

[Grankåda]

Not heathens? Not entirely correct – I carry on the torch of those who came before me.

 

Been following the Canucks from Ångermanland, Sweden since they drafted Mattias Öhlund in 1994. Enjoyed watching local Angarian talent like Näslund (nolaskogsarelite), the Sedins (övikspajka), Edler (sunnaskogsar ancestry) and now Elias Pettersson (Sôlat ancestry) on the team for a long time. Pretty sure by now Gradin sees player relations to his home province as a plus.

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Typo

[Canuck You]

Anyone going to the game plz be louder than their douche fans! It's our barn!

[OldFaithfulcap]

Time to get on a roll, and let them know who's going to break the drought. 

[Bure10Kuzmenko96]

Born and raised in Burnaby, BC. Became a Canucks fan when I was 4 years old in 1990 (just aged myself) and just love this team. Moved to Toronto last July because the wife got a job here. I wear my Canucks drip all the time and I've gotten so many compliments on it. 

[ABNuck]

3 hours ago, spook007 said:

Just win and get their mojo back in time for the play offs. 

 

Ummm...we're 5-1-1 (11 of possible 16 points...2 games went to O/T) in March so far...I'd say we're pretty Mojo'd up!

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[ReylOrca]

Hey I just realized the team is 12-1-1 when wearing the black skate jersey this season. If they wore it every game they'd be guaranteed the cup. It would practically be malpractice if not just stupid not to? And yes I want them to wear then for road games too.

[Alflives]

16 minutes ago, Bure10Kuzmenko96 said:

Born and raised in Burnaby, BC. Became a Canucks fan when I was 4 years old in 1990 (just aged myself) and just love this team. Moved to Toronto last July because the wife got a job here. I wear my Canucks drip all the time and I've gotten so many compliments on it. 

Mrs. Alf is a big Leafs’ fan. She is up early and getting a stew going in her Leafs’ crockpot. She has a lot of Leafs’ stuff. 
 What’s “drip”. Not too sure we have any of that.