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9 hours ago, HKSR said:

We need Petey to contribute offensively.  He had Boeser and Hoglander tonight.  I definitely noticed those 2, but man, Petey was damn near invisible offensively.  

 

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37 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:

Beat by a better team, best team in league IMHO. 
With Demko we are competitive. 
‘My biggest concern with this team going into the playoffs is our special teams just aren’t good enough to be a favourite at least in the first 2 rounds. First round is always a shit show of special teams as the refs try to establish that, yes this year they are calling everything, the second round is more like regular season and then the last 2 rounds they put the whistles away. Getting through the first 2 rounds is going to be up to Demko. Once the game is played 5 on 5 we can beat anyone. 

 

I think we'll be ok on the PK. Not sure what needs to happen on the PP... I haven't kept notes on who's been where for each iteration but I wonder if just planting Miller in Bo's old bumper spot is the answer? We have other guys who are good on the walls.

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1 hour ago, Mikeyman109 said:

This is exactly what I was thinking too.  Get back to the lines when the team was winning . Put Garland and Joshua back together on the third line and add Lindy when he gets back. Put Suter back on the fourth line where he belongs. Hoglander has played himself into the top 6. Play him with Petey and Mikehyev. Play Gi Giuseppe with Brock and Miler.

PP 1 needs Hronek on it. If teams want to block the shots make them pay for it. Hronek was wounding others earlier in the year with his shot. Make it painful to block a shot from the point.

PP1 should be Hughes Hronek

Miller Brock Petey

Make teams pay for their liberties

PP look at all options including Myers or Zadorov in front of the net. Its not working now what is wrong with trying a few things.

Teams have figured out the Miller is the key on the half wall. Time to do something different.

 

Disagree, keep garland with Petey and hogz 

 

In my opinion RT gave that game away with this ridiculous combinations

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6 hours ago, coolboarder said:

The issue is that the coach Tocchet is running the PP for first unit.  I remember he talked about movement and not x and o earlier in the season.  That is the issue here is that they do not even shoot when they had an opportunity and the issue is that whenever they received the pass, even he is open, he immediately hesitated and look for another open player that is closer to the net.  That never works.    I remember early in the season, they were shooting at the net from anywhere with greater success but as season wears on, they begin to look for perfect play.   

 

Suter at that bumper spot is not very good shooter.  I do not understand why he is on that unit.  "They can control all of the possession on PP in the world but they can't shoot and that is a fact because they were too slow to make up their mind and the PK closes the gap quicker. It is easier for defender to maintain their position if they don't shoot and the goalie will still able to make a save close but if you shoot more, you put more pressure on both, goalie and the PK for rebound scramble and you will always find open man when PK are scrambling if PP recovers the puck after the rebound.  They do need to get back to basic.

Coach Tocchet didn't have his best ideas this game, and the previous practice. No idea why he's moving everyone around at this stage of the season.

As the game went on, he slowly had it almost back to the norm late. Mixed everyone up. 

Wonder why they chose not to air Miller's post game? I got it and hyper-linked it. He was furious on the way they played. Rick has been great but this wasn't

the best.

                                                                      

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2 hours ago, spook007 said:

 

 Petey is 25... not even in his prime. 

I do still think, he has the burden of the world on his shoulders just now,

I am curious what burdens. I don't think it's money he has lots and will be getting a ton more soon. I haven't heard anything about family concerns.

Don't get me wrong I an rooting for him. Just wondering if you knew something about the burdens he may be facing.

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28 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

Disagree, keep garland with Petey and hogz 

 

In my opinion RT gave that game away with this ridiculous combinations

And that terrible pulling of goalie 

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18 minutes ago, Joe King said:

I am curious what burdens. I don't think it's money he has lots and will be getting a ton more soon. I haven't heard anything about family concerns.

Don't get me wrong I an rooting for him. Just wondering if you knew something about the burdens he may be facing.

Pure speculation...

 

While the talent and ability is still there (shows it in flashes), he rarely flashes his one timer, and when he does, it's not as accurate as it normally was. 

Whether its an injury, personal issues, or just a lack of confidence due to pressure, who knows... But he is far from as dominant, as he's been perviously.

I refuse to believe, its him not being able to handle hard play, as he has done that before...

 

Nevertheless, thing is he has not even reached his prime yet, so I'm sure vintage Petey will return, hopefully sooner than later... On his day he is our game breaker together with QH and Miller.

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Just now, spook007 said:

Pure speculation...

 

While the talent and ability is still there (shows it in flashes), he rarely flashes his one timer, and when he does, it's not as accurate as it normally was. 

Whether its an injury, personal issues, or just a lack of confidence due to pressure, who knows... But he is far from as dominant, as he's been perviously.

I refuse to believe, its him not being able to handle hard play, as he has done that before...

 

Nevertheless, thing is he has not even reached his prime yet, so I'm sure vintage Petey will return, hopefully sooner than later... On his day he is our game breaker together with QH and Miller.

 

He also gets checked closer than ever before and closer than anyone on the team.  The one timer on the pp is the number onr thing that teams focus on when they play van.  That's the Canucks failure on the pp, imo.........finding another outlet that produces so teams have to focus on that and take pressure off Petey 

 

Set Boeser up on the left side, like Petey is on the right and let him pound the one timer from there. 

 

Instead it's just Hughes, Miller and Petey passing it around

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The one goal was bad coverage by Cole and was definitely a high stick - shouldn’t have counted. It feels like around the crease our dmen chase the puck. Sometimes it’s better to box the other guy out and take them away from the puck. 
Should have also been a penalty when Joshua got interfered with. 
However we did have 3 power plays and did not capitalise on them. 

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9 minutes ago, BabychStache said:

PP is Broken. Time to Nikita "Cialis" Zadarov in front of the goalie and just rifle shots. 

I also would like them to give this a try. What they are currently doing isn't working.

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1 minute ago, stawns said:

 

He also gets checked closer than ever before and closer than anyone on the team.  The one timer on the pp is the number onr thing that teams focus on when they play van.  That's the Canucks failure on the pp, imo.........finding another outlet that produces so teams have to focus on that and take pressure off Petey 

 

Set Boeser up on the left side, like Petey is on the right and let him pound the one timer from there. 

 

Instead it's just Hughes, Miller and Petey passing it around

Cheers, Yes its clear, he rarely get a sniff of an open lane, yet he still used to find them.

 

I've also been wondering, why Tocchet is so focussed on having Suter in the bumper position and not utilising Brocks lethal weapon more... 

Or at least use Brock in the bumper position, and get somebody else in front of the goal... Lindholm, did great there one of the first games he played...

 

Nevertheless, whether he doesn't seem like himself or not, he doesn't deserve the crap he gets just now... support is what he needs, not being vilified. 

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1 hour ago, Rip The Mesh said:

Coach Tocchet didn't have his best ideas this game, and the previous practice. No idea why he's moving everyone around at this stage of the season.

As the game went on, he slowly had it almost back to the norm late. Mixed everyone up. 

Wonder why they chose not to air Miller's post game? I got it and hyper-linked it. He was furious on the way they played. Rick has been great but this wasn't

the best.

                                                                      

I'd like to hear that and will look for it.

 

I'm wondering if ego's seeping in and maybe they're being over coached a little? I mean, that last practice Rick reportedly was a little harsh/frustrated but maybe he's sending too many messages and adjusting too much/on the fly?

 

When he came in he had success but, there are guys (like Petey) who have natural talent and instinct that you have to just unleash at some point. I noticed Petey had 4 hits last night....more than ANY of our d men. Not sure that should be the case.

 

I'm not too worried but obviously they have to get a hold of this and the pp in particular has to find its groove. Special teams are huge in the playoffs so it's time to work out the kinks. I'm confident they will and I'm satisfied with this team's progress....but it would be a shame to let it all just slip away. 

 

I really question what they're doing with Petey though. When he has 4 hits in a game and guys like Myers and Cole have none, I think maybe that needs some adjusting. The focus has been on playing strong defensively but that's also been sacrificing some of our offence and fire power. 

 

I'm tired of Myers looking like a deer in headlights in front of our net too....clear some guys the f out of there.

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1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

I think we'll be ok on the PK. Not sure what needs to happen on the PP... I haven't kept notes on who's been where for each iteration but I wonder if just planting Miller in Bo's old bumper spot is the answer? We have other guys who are good on the walls.

Either Miller or Brock on the bumper... 

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1 hour ago, stawns said:

 

Disagree, keep garland with Petey and hogz 

 

In my opinion RT gave that game away with this ridiculous combinations

Honestly it's not peteys fault.  To be his best he really needs Gretzky and Gordie Howe on his wings....can't blame him...this is really on PA for not getting Lemieux and Selane at the deadline so petey can play to his strengths .

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3 minutes ago, -dlc- said:

 I'm tired of Myers looking like a deer in headlights in front of our net too....clear some guys the f out of there.

 

"Vancouver penalty #57 two minutes for cross-checking"

 

It's just a fact of life that he will end up in the box.

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21 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

He also gets checked closer than ever before and closer than anyone on the team.  The one timer on the pp is the number onr thing that teams focus on when they play van.  That's the Canucks failure on the pp, imo.........finding another outlet that produces so teams have to focus on that and take pressure off Petey 

 

Set Boeser up on the left side, like Petey is on the right and let him pound the one timer from there. 

 

Instead it's just Hughes, Miller and Petey passing it around

Just as an add @stawns to my previous, yes you're right... Petey Is being checked far closer than ever before, and maybe its just the fact he needs to get used to being the main focus of attention, when he is on the ice...

There is zero doubt, that he he is still developing... as the super villain said ' you win with players aged 28-33'... there's a reason players like Naslund, Sedins etc really broke out at their later 20's... 

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