Ghostsof1915 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I think "Here lies Stawns, he waited for disappointment" will be his epitaph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadeloupe Jones Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) It’s certainly possible they pick things up come playoff time. But they have no playoff experience outside of the bubble. They don’t know what it takes. The Panthers have slumped horribly but they were in the finals last year. My confidence in a team like that to turn it on is miles ahead of the Nucks since they’ve lived it. Hopefully I’m wrong - and Demko and Lindholm coming back (assuming they do) makes a massive difference. -GJ Edited April 7 by Guadeloupe Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, stawns said: Again, they only use a defensive structure like that at certain times, the Canucks do it too. Most teams do......the kings are just better at it than anyone else they just use it a lot. Not sure anyone is 'better at it' though. It makes for some boring games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: they just use it a lot. Not sure anyone is 'better at it' though. It makes for some boring games. They use it when a team gets quick possession on a dump in, that's about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, Guadeloupe Jones said: It’s certainly possible they pick things up come playoff time. But they have no playoff experience outside of the bubble. They don’t know what it takes. The Panthers have slumped horribly but they were in the finals last year. My confidence in a team like that to turn it on is miles ahead of the Nucks since they’ve lived it. Hopefully I’m wrong - and Demko and Lindholm coming back (assuming they do) makes a massive difference. -GJ Not making excuses for his production, but we actually need Lindholms defensive play more than we need offence from him. By taking the 3C role over when he's healthy, Tocc can jiggle the lines for better offence anyway. I expect solid defensive play out of Lindholm, anything else is a bonus for me. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, stawns said: They use it when a team gets quick possession on a dump in, that's about it um, that team takes pride in using it more than most: https://theathletic.com/5387259/2024/04/03/la-kings-defense-system/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 The Canucks stink right now. I’m somewhat confident they will get out of this and have a competitive first round. But the chance of a first round exit can’t be ignored. I’m still choosing to enjoy the wins and not fret about the losses. That’s how I keep this team from driving me insane lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 Frustrating to continually have special teams let us down again. If we don’t allow those two goals against and score just one on ours it could have been a much different game. That and one big save. It’s crazy how we let games slip away like that, especially against LA it seems. The score was not indicative of the play on the ice IMO. It just seems like they always capitalize on chances and we don’t. Curious to see what the expected goals for DeSmith was though. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 7 minutes ago, stawns said: They use it when a team gets quick possession on a dump in, that's about it The Kings fall back into their neutral zone trap when Quinn Hughes is on the ice. They are coached to protect against the greatest players. They don’t play this way when McWhiner Baby is on ice. Interesting, isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: The Kings fall back into their neutral zone trap when Quinn Hughes is on the ice. They are coached to protect against the greatest players. They don’t play this way when McWhiner Baby is on ice. Interesting, isn’t it? That's because Hughes is elite at quick retrieval and transition. When they can get in on the fire check, they do.........which is quite often. Then, they go into the standard 1-2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 The thing for me that kind of bugs me is this: when did the self-proclaimed experts who've known all along because they're objective and we're not make their assessments? If they're going back over the last couple of years, this team has changed (quite a bit). So that team or this team? It's a moving target and to somehow pretend they knew the trajectory of "this team" is kind of silly....because they didn't have all the information in place to do so. If they started projecting based on last year, this was our team: So no, I don't think they've observed and critically analyzed in order to know what THIS team in the here and now will do. Because this team you can only assess on this year. And it's really tough to know what they'll do based on their season and running hot then cold. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testycal Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Quote Brock taking it to the net is what the rest of the team has to do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: um, that team takes pride in using it more than most: https://theathletic.com/5387259/2024/04/03/la-kings-defense-system/ Absolutely they do and they should. They're incredibly disciplined and a tight unit in the nzone. I'm not saying they don't do it, just that it's not their primary system........like all teams, they do it when they know that getting in on the forecheck won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Just now, testycal said: Miller too....that cut in to the slot was what we need more of. Then someone ready to cash in on a rebound. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoGuitar Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Man I hate playing LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 8 minutes ago, stawns said: Absolutely they do and they should. They're incredibly disciplined and a tight unit in the nzone. I'm not saying they don't do it, just that it's not their primary system........like all teams, they do it when they know that getting in on the forecheck won't happen So what happened, then, from Dec. 28 - Jan. 28 when they lost 14/16 games or something like that? Seems it wasn't working so well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 These threads would be so much easier to read, if people would stop with the personal attacks. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 5 minutes ago, Gurn said: These threads would be so much easier to read, if people would stop with the personal attacks. Where do you see them? Report them (rather than addressing them here and adding extra clutter). That way they're sure to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 9 hours ago, CanucksJay said: Rick told me they're playing possum... Also he wants to see who jumps off the ship before they rattle off 5 straight wins before heading into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnstorm Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 All we need is one solid game to turn this around. Winning records start with one win. It’s not the first time this team has hit a skid and it won’t be the last. They’ll turn this around in perfect timing to compete well in the playoffs. Demko and Lindholm’s injuries may be a blessing in disguise. We will have the most rested #1 goaltender and a fresh highly skilled 200 ft center. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucklifer Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 hours ago, DeNiro said: Literally? Why? We could face LA or Vegas winning the division or not. We would also still have home ice advantage. At this point it doesn't matter who we face. Nashville was just on a heater of a run, and then choose between Oilers, Kings , Vegas. I would almost prefer Vegas to start as the first round as it is by far, the most unpredictable round so if we have solid goaltending we can beat these guys. If we take down Vegas, like we did Calgary back in 94 who was heavily favored, it could set us up for a run. Having Desmith for the past month just tells you that with average goaltending you're going to be a 500 team or slight better. Look at Tampa without V at the start of the season, Edmonton with Skinner struggling early, or Calgary without Marky. They're beatable teams any night because the team has to play a different style over the long term whether they admit it or not. Key injuries matter, especially goaltending. Seeing the last few games of the year with Demko back to form will display what kind of team we ice, and the chances we have against any first round opponent. If he's bubble Demko then watch out! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, Nucklifer said: At this point it doesn't matter who we face. Nashville was just on a heater of a run, and then choose between Oilers, Kings , Vegas. I would almost prefer Vegas to start as the first round as it is by far, the most unpredictable round so if we have solid goaltending we can beat these guys. If we take down Vegas, like we did Calgary back in 94 who was heavily favored, it could set us up for a run. Having Desmith for the past month just tells you that with average goaltending you're going to be a 500 team or slight better. Look at Tampa without V at the start of the season, Edmonton with Skinner struggling early, or Calgary without Marky. They're beatable teams any night because the team has to play a different style over the long term whether they admit it or not. Key injuries matter, especially goaltending. Seeing the last few games of the year with Demko back to form will display what kind of team we ice, and the chances we have against any first round opponent. If he's bubble Demko then watch out! I disagree, I think it's crucial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: don't you know Deb, when you say you are "objective" then it makes your opinion the right one. Kind of like saying "no offense" right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, Nucklifer said: At this point it doesn't matter who we face. Nashville was just on a heater of a run, and then choose between Oilers, Kings , Vegas. I would almost prefer Vegas to start as the first round as it is by far, the most unpredictable round so if we have solid goaltending we can beat these guys. If we take down Vegas, like we did Calgary back in 94 who was heavily favored, it could set us up for a run. Having Desmith for the past month just tells you that with average goaltending you're going to be a 500 team or slight better. Look at Tampa without V at the start of the season, Edmonton with Skinner struggling early, or Calgary without Marky. They're beatable teams any night because the team has to play a different style over the long term whether they admit it or not. Key injuries matter, especially goaltending. Seeing the last few games of the year with Demko back to form will display what kind of team we ice, and the chances we have against any first round opponent. If he's bubble Demko then watch out! We’ll also see what kind of team we have when the games really matter. I know fans view these last games as “must wins” and “huge games” but the only real must wins and huge games will be in the playoffs now. It’s a whole new season and previous records don’t matter. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: I think "Here lies Stawns, he waited for disappointment" will be his epitaph. Why's that? I was one of the few optimistic ones for the last two seasons. I don't really get disappointed, I just go with what I see on the ice. Last year, I thought they were better than their record, this season, I think they're not as good as their record. There isn't a "positive" poster on here who, deep down, isn't expecting the other shoe to drop at some point I'm a very positive person, you can't do what I do for a living if you're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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