Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted May 5 Popular Post Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Miller < McDavid Pettersson < Draisaitl Boeser = Hyman Lindholm = Henrique Garland < Nugent-Hopkins Joshua = Kane Hughes > Bouchard Hronek > Ekholm Zadorov > Nurse Soucy > Ceci Demko-Silovs-DeSmith > Skinner Tocchet > Knoblauch They say D wins championships (and coaching), so here's hoping. Adam Henrique isn't in the same stratosphere as Elias Lindholm... 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 30 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: NOBODY IN THE NHL PLAYS MAN DEFENSE ANYMORE Who are you trying to convince?? its a hybrid of the 2 if youre checking the puck carrier you dont just drop him because they leave your area with the exception of going behind the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Johnny said: Who are you trying to convince?? its a hybrid of the 2 if youre checking the puck carrier you dont just drop him because they leave your area with the exception of going behind the net Guess which player on Edmonton LOVES to go behind the net WITHOUT the puck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 6 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Miller < McDavid Pettersson < Draisaitl Boeser = Hyman Lindholm = Henrique Garland < Nugent-Hopkins Joshua = Kane Hughes > Bouchard Hronek > Ekholm Zadorov > Nurse Soucy > Ceci Demko-Silovs-DeSmith > Skinner Tocchet > Knoblauch They say D wins championships (and coaching), so here's hoping. Hyman is a McDraisaitl merchant and Henrique can't even hold Lindholm's jockstrap lol. The only edge these guys have on us is having two top five players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spook007 Posted May 5 Popular Post Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: Never ever change JT... A bigger middle finger salute couldn't be given if he tried. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntheticity Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 29 minutes ago, stawns said: They don't really have a different style.......in fact almost all teams play the same style these days. The league has become very homogenized and the teams that succeed are the teams who play a more disciplined game and stick to the system better than anyone else. Every team plays a 1-3-1 when they can't get a fire check going, the Kid NGS just do it better than most........at least against the Canucks You seem to be using the word "style" in a different sense from how I was using the term. I nowhere claim that VAN's style reduces to a rigid 1-2-2 system or that LA's style reduces to a rigid 1-3-1, nor did anything I say imply that. In the sense I was using the term, there's an overall systems difference that's widely acknowledged. For example: Quote Connor McDavid said he expects the Vancouver Canucks to present a different kind of challenge to the Edmonton Oilers in the best-of-7 Western Conference Second Round. The Canucks' defensive system varies from what the Oilers saw against the Los Angeles Kings in the first round, which Edmonton won in five games. Vancouver advanced to the second round Friday after eliminating the Nashville Predators in six games. “Yeah they do, definitely,” the Oilers captain said Saturday when asked to compare the two. “L.A. is more man-on-man, they (Vancouver) are a little more zone, they pack it in pretty tight. We have to find a way to generate against that. They have some big D-men that don’t go too far from the net, so we have to find a way to generate some offense.” (full article: Oilers hope to turn tables on Canucks in Western 2nd Round | NHL.com) And there are a number other differences beyond the ones mentioned here by McDavid... But in any case, let's agree to avoid a pointless verbal dispute over the meaning of the word "style." If you prefer to refer to these differences as differences of implementation or discipline or something else, instead of differences of style, then fine. The point of my original post is that there are important differences between how EDM matches up against VAN vs how they matched up against LA, and it's not obvious that their success against LA implies automatic success against VAN. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Adam Henrique isn't in the same stratosphere as Elias Lindholm... You'd think, but Henrique - 2 pts in 5 game Lindholm - 3 pts in 6 games Although, Lindholm is better defensively and obviously at faceoffs. Fair point. Lindholm is better than Henrique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 9 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Miller < McDavid Pettersson < Draisaitl Boeser = Hyman Lindholm = Henrique Garland < Nugent-Hopkins Joshua = Kane Hughes > Bouchard Hronek > Ekholm Zadorov > Nurse Soucy > Ceci Demko-Silovs-DeSmith > Skinner Tocchet > Knoblauch They say D wins championships (and coaching), so here's hoping. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. I think Nux is a better team. They don't have a talent like McDavid, but they can beat them. Just like many teams have the last several years in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Miller < McDavid Pettersson < Draisaitl Boeser = Hyman Lindholm = Henrique Garland < Nugent-Hopkins Joshua = Kane Hughes > Bouchard Hronek > Ekholm Zadorov > Nurse Soucy > Ceci Demko-Silovs-DeSmith > Skinner Tocchet > Knoblauch They say D wins championships (and coaching), so here's hoping. I wanna play! Petey << Mcdavo Miller = Draisaitl (hear me out) boeser = RNH Lindholm > Henrique Garland < Hyman Joshua = Kane Hughes >> Bouchard Hronek < Ekholm zaddy > Nurse Soucy > Ceci our coaching staff >> our goalies without demmer = if skinner plays tip top if we get demko back > miller I have him = draisaitl because I think we are gonna make leon lose his composure. He loses his head to good defence and I think we are gonna knock him off his game and I think miller is gonna stay composed and be a monster again. ekholm os their best dman I think he’s elected the floor of their defence immensely and I like him more than hronek hoefully Zadorov isn’t overwhelmed by the speed of Edmonton and can still be super effective. They are familiar with eachother too Edited May 5 by R3aL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Crossbar Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, Jaimito said: We've got your back ... get better, Demmer! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted May 5 Popular Post Share Posted May 5 (edited) 10 minutes ago, R3aL said: I wanna play! Petey << Mcdavo Miller = Draisaitl (hear me out) boeser = RNH Lindholm > Henrique Garland < Hyman Joshua = Kane Hughes >> Bouchard Hronek < Ekholm zaddy > Nurse Soucy > Ceci our coaching staff >> our goalies without demmer = if skinner plays tip top if we get demko back > miller I have him = draisaitl because I think we are gonna make leon lose his composure. He loses his head to good defence and I think we are gonna knock him off his game and I think miller is gonna stay composed and be a monster again. ekholm os their best dman I think he’s elected the floor of their defence immensely and I like him more than hronek hoefully Zadorov isn’t overwhelmed by the speed of Edmonton and can still be super effective. They are familiar with eachother too Miller right now is better than Draisaitl. He's almost statistically the same as Draisaitl during the season while being miles ahead of him defensively and physically... Edited May 5 by Elias Pettersson 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Tommy's getting good; Headed to the big times; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 19 minutes ago, spook007 said: F that.... then put a nobody with size to take out McD, and get a major + suspension. If the cards aren't dealt fairly, you make your own luck. I wish we had someone "disposable" like that. I mean, Big Z is a great deterrent for us but I'd hate to lose him for any games. Gone are the days of having someone who can just play that role. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinch Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Petterson needs to stay in his feet, every shift he goes down too easy - you can tell he is trying to sell a penalty that may come back to bite him in the ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Miller right now is better than Draisaitl. He's almost statistically the same as Draisaitl during the season while being miles ahead of him defensively ad physically... Sneaky! This is true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 57 minutes ago, stawns said: They can't get into a run and gun matchup with the Oilers, imo. They need to be on the right side of the puck possession numbers and keep the Oilers in their end as much as they can. If the games open up, the Canucks are in trouble I think. They got here with stingy defense and good puck possession.........they need to double down on that I think that is the situation in a nutshell. Frustrate the Oiler forwards in the neutral zone and in the d-zone. Keep them to the outside as much as possible. Score the first goal so they don't have to chase the game. LA had to change their game a lot because of that. If there is a clean hit take it. This is not the same team that Vancouver beat 3 X last fall. Edmonton is playing good hockey. Let's hope they are coming out of that LA series overconfident. Canucks get the drop on them and take Game 1. Make Edmonton chase them. My gut tells me that Hogs has a great series. There are so many Canuck weapons due for a breakout. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 25 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Garland < Nugent-Hopkins not sure I can agree with this one, Garly has proven to be a great agitator and has a great sense for big moments. Nugget-Hophead? not sure he's more effective in the playoffs. Regular season more points, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: Tommy's getting good; Headed to the big times; Edmonton is a trash city. Typical trailer park chirping from the red necks. But then again if I had to live in Edmonton all year I'd probably be the same way... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 56 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: NOBODY IN THE NHL PLAYS MAN DEFENSE ANYMORE It does still happen to McDavid now again actually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, Grinch said: Petterson needs to stay in his feet, every shift he goes down too easy - you can tell he is trying to sell a penalty that may come back to bite him in the ass I honestly don't feel that it's to draw a penalty AT ALL. But I could be wrong. I just think it's possibly a matter of him not having great stability....maybe some more core work? He's tall and lanky. He's also overthinking things and that can pull some of his focus off...I think once he starts just playing on natural instinct again things'll improve. He's being pretty crowded out there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 18 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Guess which player on Edmonton LOVES to go behind the net WITHOUT the puck Yeah, dont chase, block out the lanes McDavid is incredible and can do things others have never been able to. to defend against him defenders need to make the route through the check and block lanes, but give him space so they can adjust and stay with him. As he gets closer to the net tighten up the space but dont chase trying to check him close all over the ice is how he creates space on his terms and then defenders start getting out of position playing zone defence on a player like McDavid just gives more opportunities for miscommunication and dropped coverages with the Defenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, -dlc- said: I wish we had someone "disposable" like that. I mean, Big Z is a great deterrent for us but I'd hate to lose him for any games. Gone are the days of having someone who can just play that role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 This, at first glance might seem gloomy. / I take it as he's close !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 8 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I think that is the situation in a nutshell. Frustrate the Oiler forwards in the neutral zone and in the d-zone. Keep them to the outside as much as possible. Score the first goal so they don't have to chase the game. LA had to change their game a lot because of that. If there is a clean hit take it. This is not the same team that Vancouver beat 3 X last fall. Edmonton is playing good hockey. Let's hope they are coming out of that LA series overconfident. Canucks get the drop on them and take Game 1. Make Edmonton chase them. My gut tells me that Hogs has a great series. There are so many Canuck weapons due for a breakout. I think the Canucks skilled guys are going to get a lot more room to operate. Hogz and Petey both looked better in game 6, so I'm hopeful too 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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