[PGT] Edmonton at Vancouver ~ Round 2 - Game 1

[OldFaithfulcap]

17 minutes ago, Kragar said:

It's like they don't even want to be there.

 

I'm not the biggest Cuthbert fan, but he's miles better than what I'm stuck with down here.

 

I'm just glad for all of you with SN that you didn't get stuck with Singh.

 

I wish shorty was doing the radio...

[TortorellasRant]

Just now, -dlc- said:

But he's already given us a lot of value in what he's done so far. So don't just zero in on the here and now. His contract hasn't even kicked in yet.

 

Guys struggle....money/contracts don't make them immune from that. The timing can't be controlled.

 

Do you have sick days at work? Should your salary be adjusted accordingly because sometimes you're off and can't do your job?

 

Why do people want to align contracts with performance by cherry picking the rough patches only?

 

 

 

Define rough patch. This goes back weeks before the playoffs. 3 goals in his last 23 games. I get there is no point bitching about this because it accomplishes nothing, but it is frustrating to see him struggling, beyond struggling, at quite literally the worst time of year

[Canuck-Oni]

2 hours ago, iceman1964 said:

Ok so is he on the same page as JTM? Not even close! Compare JTM to EP, it's not even in the same ballpark, it's one thing to say Petey does something good here and there but he's not going out there like JTM does, JTM is all in, normally on every shift, can you say that about Petey? Made a fantastic play 2 games ago? Woohoo!  JTM does that every game and plays with a ton more passion! That's what I expect from Petey too, your saying that's wrong to expect that? 

I too wish Petey played liked JTM.

 

But they are different people and there is no reason to slag off Petey because he's not Hercules (JT).

 

We also have to remember Petey is still a young man with very little experience in high pressure situations. JT is 30 year old ma, with not just more hockey experience but also life experience. He has a a family and that changes a person.

 

So, to wrap it up. I wish Petey was playing like JT, but he's still young...the team is winning, he  pitching in occasionally and learning what it takes to play like JT. If he's still playing like this when he is 29 and 30 (JT age now). Then I think the fan base can be rightfully upset. As is now, I suggest patience and support for an emerging young superstar finding his way in an amazing playoffs run.

 

As a final note...I hadn't noticed much enthusiasm out of Petey prior to yesterday's game, some, but not much. Yet after helping defend for the final minute of yesterday game, he turns to Miller and is just screaming for joy! So I think he's starting to understand.

[-Buzzsaw-]

2 hours ago, Goal_thecup said:

Cole owned up to all of them and Tocchet put him right back out there each time.

Did you see after the 4-1 goal that Cole went up to Silovs and Goalie-Whisperered into his ear-hole?

 

I imagine something like, "Don't worry about it kid; they won't get anymore and we'll come back get you some run support."

Cole is an important player for us in many ways and manning up, big, solid man manning up, and Stanley Cup Winning Experience, are just 2 of them.

Cole is 95% of the time solid.

 

He is a massively build D who hits like a truck and can't be moved in the corners by forecheckers.

 

Yes, he occasionally makes a bad pass, but the rest of his game makes up for it.

[R3aL]

5 hours ago, MattJVD said:

Zad knows Dry's back is hurting and is really making him feel it. Kinda dirty, but sometimes that's what has to be done. Same thing happened to Henrik in 2011, he had siatica and needed help to get his skates on by the end

No Stanley cup champ has not endured this or not dished it out.

 

how many times have our guys ate extra shots, been hit late or in the back, had slashes to soft areas of padding to skilled players like miller  and boeser? 
 

we’ve always needed a zaddy I love it

[R3aL]

5 hours ago, MattJVD said:

Zad knows Dry's back is hurting and is really making him feel it. Kinda dirty, but sometimes that's what has to be done. Same thing happened to Henrik in 2011, he had siatica and needed help to get his skates on by the end

oops double

Edited May 9 by R3aL

[Hairy Kneel]

3 hours ago, Maniwaki Canuck said:

Let's not rule out the farm animals either.  This is Alberta we're talking about.

What did the sheep say to Skinner?

 

 

"Are you my daaaaaaad".

[-Buzzsaw-]

5 minutes ago, TortorellasRant said:

 

Define rough patch. This goes back weeks before the playoffs. 3 goals in his last 23 games. I get there is no point bitching about this because it accomplishes nothing, but it is frustrating to see him struggling, beyond struggling, at quite literally the worst time of year

This team would not have ended up where it was in the standings without Pettersson's play in the regular season.

 

And that position in the standings gave us our matchups in the playoffs and should give us home ice advantage for a lot of it.  (unless Dallas goes to the Conference)

 

He is not putting up a lot of points right now, but he is playing defensively well and getting chances.

 

The big problem is he needs better linemates.  Mikheyev has hands of stone and Hoglander is out of his depth and not a passer either... he missed two clearcut opportunities to put Pettersson in alone this game... if Boeser, Miller or Lindholm had the puck Pettersson would have received a tape to tape pass.  Even Garland or Joshua would have seen the opportunity to put him in the clear.

I am hoping that Podz replaces either Mikheyev or Hoglander on Pettersson's line, or Pettersson joins Boeser/Miller.

[Hairy Kneel]

2 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

I hope DeSmith gets in.

[PhillipBlunt]

Is it strange that I've watched the highlights ten times today to savor the comeback?

[Pure961089]

Petey needs Lekkerimaki.  Is he available to play some shifts for the Canucks? Even if he's just used as a PP specialist with sheltered mins.  I'd see what we have in him, I think he'd inject some juice in Petey.

Edited May 9 by Pure961089

[Inkidu]

2 hours ago, Blue said:

Elliot Friedman seemed devistated by the Oilers loss. He doesn't seem like much of an Oilers shill but he asked Bieksa more than once  "common, you didn't think they were going to win that game did you ?"

The brothers Eliot and Kevin were having a little pissing contest, the game was almost secondary.

[TortorellasRant]

7 minutes ago, -Buzzsaw- said:

This team would not have ended up where it was in the standings without Pettersson's play in the regular season.

 

And that position in the standings gave us our matchups in the playoffs and should give us home ice advantage for a lot of it.  (unless Dallas goes to the Conference)

 

He is not putting up a lot of points right now, but he is playing defensively well and getting chances.

 

The big problem is he needs better linemates.  Mikheyev has hands of stone and Hoglander is out of his depth and not a passer either... he missed two clearcut opportunities to put Pettersson in alone this game... if Boeser, Miller or Lindholm had the puck Pettersson would have received a tape to tape pass.  Even Garland or Joshua would have seen the opportunity to put him in the clear.

I am hoping that Podz replaces either Mikheyev or Hoglander on Pettersson's line, or Pettersson joins Boeser/Miller.

I think that may be the biggest part of the problem. A guy like Podz should be playing here by now, not in Abbotsford watching this on TV. If the staff can't help him enough get on this level, that's going to be yet another missed opportunity and hole in the lineup

[Kragar]

4 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said:

I believe it's called Lazy, but that can't be, can it?  

 

Maybe he thought it was 5-on-5, and coasting in the middle was just fine.

[coolboarder]

7 hours ago, CanuckMan said:

Canucks have big decisions to make in the off season.

 

Zadorav, Joshua, Lindholm seem like guys you need to bring back to keep this train going. I’d sign those 3 before we re-signed Hronek. 
 

That will mean guys like Lafferty/Cole won’t be back. Silovs might be our backup next year so good chance Desmith is also not back. If they can trade Mikheyev somehow I think we will be in good shape. 

Three 3 players should be our main focus.  Hronek is still under our control for one more year so we can trade him for whatever we can get in return for as long as we keep Zadarov, Joshua and Lindholm.  Hronek can get something for less after seeing that he didn't really produce much in 2nd half of the season and playoffs.  If Hronek is a PPG D player, he would be worth  what he is asking for.  Right now, we cannot really justify his asking price right now.  

[The Arrogant Worms]

 

[Hairy Kneel]

2 hours ago, Blue said:

Elliot Friedman seemed devistated by the Oilers loss. He doesn't seem like much of an Oilers shill but he asked Bieksa more than once  "common, you didn't think they were going to win that game did you ?"

Yeah wtf was that about? The real Elliot showed its ugly head.

[Harvey Specter]

Almost through an entire workday, and still the hype and excitement of the win has not settled down!

 

Loved these photos from last night's GWG celebration for GARLY!

 

 

[Hairy Kneel]

2 hours ago, Goal_thecup said:

What a pair you and cuporbust make.  Great user name; love me some Torts, but this is a lousy post.

 

Those of us actually watching the games and listening to the coaching staff et al, have at least a rough idea of what has been bothering 'Lias Pettersson.

 

1st Clue from Tocchet, "It is an illness, there is nothing  [like an injury-my add]  wrong with Pettersson, he just has to play through it."  This one could be called "The Flu Clue" perhaps.

 

Last Clue I'm gonna bother with: Petey had a very good game last night and saved the day more than once in the third period alone; he is getting better and could be back to his 'normal' (read Top Level Player)(read Real Good) self in good time.  In other words, far from your, "Useless" valuation, which, in itself, is a Useless Valuation.

Like mono or a low level grade covid maybe. That shii will sap your energy so much. I had the worst covid when it first came out 10 days in a coma. Shii is whack. I'm still not 100%. 

Because if it was a wrist or something physical we would see it more.

[Hairy Kneel]

2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

For all of you Petey haters out there, he played over 9 minutes in the 3rd period last night (most on the team) and was one of the best players defensively on the ice. 

 

Obviously Tocchet trusts him to be on the ice in the most important situations and Tocchet also said Petey's two way game is elite.

 

Hockey isn't all about points.  McDavid had zero shots on goal last night and was not a factor in the game at all.  Petey made much more of a contribution to the game than most of the Oilers did...

I think he really wanted Petie to get a EN too. Which would have been great 

[stawns]

15 minutes ago, TortorellasRant said:

I think that may be the biggest part of the problem. A guy like Podz should be playing here by now, not in Abbotsford watching this on TV. If the staff can't help him enough get on this level, that's going to be yet another missed opportunity and hole in the lineup

 

Well, Abby is out now, so I expect a call up of black aces.  It's possible Podz sees some time, but not likely.  PDG has been good on the pk and they're not going to weaken that just to get podz some time.

 

I expect podz will be in van, for good, in october

[viking mama]

8 hours ago, hockeyfan-observer said:

Just throwing this out there - Podz - good choice to bring in - what is the feeling about Aatu Raty and is he anywhere close to contributing at NHL level since was pretty good in Abby?

i do not think Aatu Raty is ready. He is not thinking the games as quickly as most would like. 

[stawns]

3 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Like mono or a low level grade covid maybe. That shii will sap your energy so much. I had the worst covid when it first came out 10 days in a coma. Shii is whack. I'm still not 100%. 

Because if it was a wrist or something physical we would see it more.

 

I've had it 5 times, but it took me 2.5 years to recover from the bout I had in Feb, 2020.  It's certainly possible with Petey.........that's what ended Sutter and Toews careers I think

[rychicken]

1 hour ago, -dlc- said:

People saying Petey is "useless" don't watch for anything other than the highlight reel dangles and goals.

 

YES, we pay him the big bucks to score. Something's going on with him and it's not like he hasn't produced in the past and won't again. Patience.

 

He does do other things well and his defensive game is strong despite that not being his forte. To say he's useless is a useless comment in my view. Highlights don't tell the entire story and he's trying to contribute in other ways. He's also starting to take shots like the old Petey.

 

Do we need him to do more and get on the scoresheet? Of course.

 

Should we jump all over him when he's in a slump for whatever reason? Probably not.

 

We always need a scapegoat it seems.

 

Let's pick apart the other team instead...much more fun.

May 9 2024 - mark it down in your calendar everyone - Deb and I agree on something

[Blue]

I'm so happy that all the Oilers wise-asses , all of those who picked the Oilers , including Ray Ferraro, got a poke in the eye