Disappointed Tocchet did not raise missed calls in Press conference

[-Buzzsaw-]

I was really expecting Tocchet to say something in his press conference about the missed calls on Edmonton.

 

But he completely missed the opportunity to point out what were blatant attempts to injure Hughes.

 

Instead, he responded by letting Sutherland off the hook with a line about 'tough job' or some such nonsense.

 

When the Canucks star player has blood running down his face and everyone is telling him it was a slash, Sutherland has a duty to consult with the rest of the officiating crew and ask if they saw anything... not doing so is not doing his job.

 

It establishes a double standard for McDavid... when any other player deliberately slashing some in the face would see minimum 4 minutes and a game.

 

What McDavid did is not up for debate, he deliberately raised his stick and slashed Hughes across the face... its shown in multiple camera angles.

 

At the very minimum, by raising this, Tocchet would have put Sutherland and the officials on notice and the Oilers on the defensive.

 

Instead, he lets it slide, which means we can likely see more of the same... until one of the Canuck players feels obligated to respond.

 

This is the same situation as we saw with Naslund, Moore and Bertuzzi.

 

Refs have to do their job in an un-biased fashion, no favouritism is acceptable.

[Coconuts]

Not terribly surprising, I don't think calling out the reffing in the media would actually help any. If anything it could backfire. 

[elvis15]

He'd get fined if he did raise it in the media. Good news is the teams have the ability to speak to the league about officiating directly.

 

No idea why it's so important to you that he call it out in the media.

[Sooey Steamer]

I think it is, for now, in the club's best interest not to publicly criticize tonight's reff'ing and Sutherland, in particular.  I sure hope that Allvin and/or Rutherford make sure that footage of these dangerous and injurious acts, along with a formal complaint are sent to the appropriate department in the NHL.  And simulaneously, there is lots of media coverage and widespread sharing of the clips.  I am naive enough to hope that if the team takes the high road and follows protocol, while the media and fans ensure that the leagues knows that we know, that the league will actually do something about it!  

 

I see that apparently there has already been some sort of review of the "gonad whack sneak attack".  I don't understand why the other despicable infractions weren't also reviewed...  Holding my breath that there might be more news to come (but I won't hold it too long, I know to look after myself).

[King Heffy]

If the league ever allows Sutherland to ref another game, that's the time to go public and make it clear that his misconduct is unacceptable.  At this point, ownership should be considering a lawsuit if the NHL refuses to hold Sutherland accountable for his outright refusal to call an honest game.

Edited May 11 by King Heffy

[CanucksJay]

59 minutes ago, Sooey Steamer said:

I think it is, for now, in the club's best interest not to publicly criticize tonight's reff'ing and Sutherland, in particular.  I sure hope that Allvin and/or Rutherford make sure that footage of these dangerous and injurious acts, along with a formal complaint are sent to the appropriate department in the NHL.  And simulaneously, there is lots of media coverage and widespread sharing of the clips.  I am naive enough to hope that if the team takes the high road and follows protocol, while the media and fans ensure that the leagues knows that we know, that the league will actually do something about it!  

 

I see that apparently there has already been some sort of review of the "gonad whack sneak attack".  I don't understand why the other despicable infractions weren't also reviewed...  Holding my breath that there might be more news to come (but I won't hold it too long, I know to look after myself).

 

Whether you like it or not, the league is BS and isn't governed like a court room where logic and truth prevails. It's a slimy old boys club with backroom deals. 

RT, JR and Co is playing this the right way. 

Watch for reffing to be favourable next game because we towed the company line and didn't "embarrass" the league but went through the "right" channels. 

 

They know we got screwed and a memo will go out internally. 

 

Funny how sports has come to this... 

 

[Johnny]

2 hours ago, -Buzzsaw- said:

I was really expecting Tocchet to say something in his press conference about the missed calls on Edmonton.

 

But he completely missed the opportunity to point out what were blatant attempts to injure Hughes.

 

Instead, he responded by letting Sutherland off the hook with a line about 'tough job' or some such nonsense.

 

When the Canucks star player has blood running down his face and everyone is telling him it was a slash, Sutherland has a duty to consult with the rest of the officiating crew and ask if they saw anything... not doing so is not doing his job.

 

It establishes a double standard for McDavid... when any other player deliberately slashing some in the face would see minimum 4 minutes and a game.

 

What McDavid did is not up for debate, he deliberately raised his stick and slashed Hughes across the face... its shown in multiple camera angles.

 

At the very minimum, by raising this, Tocchet would have put Sutherland and the officials on notice and the Oilers on the defensive.

 

Instead, he lets it slide, which means we can likely see more of the same... until one of the Canuck players feels obligated to respond.

 

This is the same situation as we saw with Naslund, Moore and Bertuzzi.

 

Refs have to do their job in an un-biased fashion, no favouritism is acceptable.

The media has done a decent job covering this so its best left alone

[Fantomex]

Where's the petition to get him fired and sent off to Antarctica?

 

[UncleBen]

This is where Rutherford or Alvin need to do their job.I remember Burke calling out the refs big time after a game 

[UncleBen]

3 minutes ago, UncleBen said:

This is where Rutherford or Alvin need to do their job.I remember Burke calling out the refs big time after a game 

Burkies rant !

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/burke-wants-refs-to-show-respect/article4134064/

 

 

 

[King Heffy]

9 minutes ago, UncleBen said:

Burkies rant !

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/burke-wants-refs-to-show-respect/article4134064/

 

 

 

They don't make em like Burkie anymore. 

[Crabcakes]

‘We want penalties called:’ Oilers head coach Kris Knoblauch talks Game 2 refereeing - OilersNation

 

Of course they do.  They've got one of the best power plays ever.  

 

The players know that they can get away with all sorts of nonsense.  But we all know that it's the retaliator that gets caught and penalized.  This is the playoffs.  Suck it up buttercup.

[Canuck You]

1 hour ago, Fantomex said:

Where's the petition to get him fired and sent off to Antarctica?

 

In the printer!

[Crabcakes]

16 minutes ago, UncleBen said:

Burkies rant !

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/burke-wants-refs-to-show-respect/article4134064/

 

 

 

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[Canuck You]

He's been like that all season..He just lets it go, Smart man,  Won't change much just Keep your enemies close.

[Zimmyparttwo]

12 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

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As historic (histrionic) as this Burkie press conference proved to be, it’s impact had no bearing on the outcome of that series with Detroit and all subsequent series played either by the Canucks or any other franchise in existence.

It certainly lives on in the hearts of the downtrodden and those who pine for this style and level of leadership but it pales as an effective battle cry for systematic change at the league level.

 

I’m a sucker for the passion though!

[Ghostsof1915]

What good will it do? Are you seriously thinking that the NHL head office is going to backtrack on a suspension, or kick Sutherland out for the rest of the playoffs?

The players know. The Coaches know. Management knows.

Bitching about it won't get you anywhere.

Edited May 12 by Ghostsof1915

[King Heffy]

53 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

What good will it do? Are you seriously thinking that the NHL head office is going to backtrack on a suspension, or kick Sutherland out for the rest of the playoffs?

The players know. The Coaches know. Management knows.

Bitching about it won't get you anywhere.

Outright calling him out specifically and saying that they don't trust him to call the game honestly might make the league consider holding him accountable for the match fixing.  This is not a good look for the league's gambling partners.   Pretending Sutherland's consistent misconduct has been acceptable hasn't done anything.  The NHL needs to be made real uncomfortable with the consequences of continuing to allow this worthless piece of shit to disgrace the sport.

[Psycho_Path]

4 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

 

Whether you like it or not, the league is BS and isn't governed like a court room where logic and truth prevails. It's a slimy old boys club with backroom deals. 

RT, JR and Co is playing this the right way. 

Watch for reffing to be favourable next game because we towed the company line and didn't "embarrass" the league but went through the "right" channels. 

 

They know we got screwed and a memo will go out internally. 

 

Funny how sports has come to this... 

 

Good luck expecting that to happen. Lol

[MikeBossy]

Is there a bigger hack when it comes to so called Sports Writers than Mark Spector?

 

VANCOUVER — As fans arrive at Rogers Arena here, on the kind of spring day that makes every superlative ever used to describe this wonderful city seem understated, they are greeted by a statue.

The statue is of the great Roger Neilson waving his white towel.

It is, on one hand, the one statue-worthy moment this franchise has to celebrate. On the other hand, it is a travesty.

One of the smartest, most engaging and innovative coaches in our sport’s history, immortalized for the rare moment emotions got the better of him. Of all the great things Neilson accomplished in the game — and there were so, so many — here in Vancouver, they have eternalized him for whining about some rough calls one night in Chicago.

En route to the game, the local media personality is on the car radio, warning fans about one of that night’s referees and how he holds a grudge against the Canucks. The message is clear: We’re not getting a fair shake tonight, folks. The hockey establishment is against us, and it’ll be a miracle if we can overcome it.

Eventually the Canucks, one of the best teams in the NHL this season, take the ice in front of perhaps the loudest building we’ve been in on the playoff trail. But before we get going, let’s meet the Towel Kid, who waves a white towel before puck drop.

Institutionalized surrender.

People know what waving a white towel stands for, don’t they?

This is the culture that the Canucks players must overcome.

This is why nary a press conference passes here without poor coach Rick Tocchet being asked to comment on the officiating. Why players are peppered with questions about calls, and non-calls.

 

Why social media is as stocked with posts about officiating as it is with love for the Canucks, or shots at Nashville fans in Round 1, or Oilers fans in Round 2.

It’s the culture, and dare we say, a culture that has produced a 50-year team without a Stanley Cup banner in its rafters.

Let’s be clear: This isn’t on the fans. Not one bit.

Fans in every city see the game through goggles tinted to the colour of the home team. They’re supposed to be irate when a high-stick on Quinn Hughes get missed, and oblivious to the six Canucks skaters on the ice seconds before a Vancouver goal.

Fans have every right to cite Connor McDavid’s alleged embellishment, but gloss over the giant oak tree that is Nikita Zadorov, toppled by a love-tap from Warren Foegele. Or the knee taken by Quinn Hughes.

Canucks fans? God bless ‘em.

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They’re rabid, hockey-lovin’ Canadians, and I’ll admit that back in 2011 I’d have preferred to chronicle a different ending to that woeful Game 7 against Boston. Fans pay my salary, and after two years of empty rinks during COVID, nights like the ones we just had in Rogers Arena is a reminder as to why we all love the game the way we do.

But in hockey, they say that if you arrive at the rink already wondering about the officiating, you are halfway to being beaten. And I’ll guarantee you, Tocchet and the Canucks are not willing participants in this. Victims, perhaps. But not willing ones.

Let the record show, the players and coaches are neither whining nor waving any white towels in Vancouver.

J.T. Miller’s post-game address Friday was accountable on a Hank and Danny Sedin level. Hughes too. Outstanding.

I don’t hear any references to officiating from any Canucks player or coach — until they are asked about it by media. It’s not their fault, this fixation.

So, from where does it come?

How did we get to a place where a media member is tapping his sources at the Department of Player Safety to see if Derek Ryan is due a suspension for a drive-by slash for which he was rightly given a minor penalty? As if that play has ever met the threshold of a even double minor, let alone a suspension?

 

 

 

How does the “Kelly Sutherland hates us” theme that fans lap up — but accredited media should laugh off — get legitimate traction here?

Must we go all the way back to the great Vancouver hockey columnist Tony Gallagher — Dear Leader of the Tinfoil Hats Brigade — an old friend and able wordsmith who taught this market that Gary Bettman would rather they lose, and the referees were microchipped to slant games in the direction of whichever team was in town that night?

How is it that, of the 32 press boxes I’ve spent the past 35 years in, this is the one where the intermission topic of conversation is officiating. Night after night, after whiney, complaining night?

So, here’s the deal: As an Edmonton-based writer, you can write me off as a homer. Go ahead.

I’m also the guy who has heard from colleagues around the NHL about how the Oilers were going to mop up the Canucks in four or five easy games, an opinion I never shared. Today, I’m vindicated to see a series that is in no way lopsided.

Hell, it could easily stand at 2-0 for Vancouver. Lopsided, indeed.

I picked the Oilers in six and I’ll stay with that, but already we can see how equal these teams are. How neither team requires a break from the zebras to win, and frankly, how a series with fewer power plays dotted throughout probably favours the Canucks.

But the Oilers do have an edge in this series, as does every team who ever played Vancouver.

They are not surrounded by the Great Conspiracy, the way Canucks teams have been for so many years.

They are not burdened by institutionalized surrender, the haunting knowledge that the deck is stacked against them. That if they are able to beat that night’s opponent, the referees will still have to be conquered. And after that, perhaps the league office.

They’re not waving a white towel even before the game begins, because nobody in pro sports celebrates surrender — except for one franchise.

Here, they quit before they play. Because who has a chance with these refs, anyhow?

[Canuck You]

 

[Optimist Prime]

Speaking out publicly is how you fight about something. How you resolve something is to raise it with candour to the relevant authority.

 

I am highly impressed by his choice of words.

[Duodenum]

Tocchet's not a whiner like a lot of fans are.

Ref this ref that boohoo. They missed calls both ways. Play better and you'll win, Canucks didn't play well enough in game 2. 

 

Let's pick it up in game 3!

[Fan Abroad]

 

It went both ways. I agree that there were many missed calls for both sides.

[Drakrami]

May be saying the refs is having a tough job is code word for the refs are horrible. Because Hughes the actual victim also said the refs had a tough job in his interview lol. 

 

Tocchet did mention he didn't like the slew foot.