-Buzzsaw- Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Yes. Does Pettersson improve whatever line he's on? Can he drive a line? Last they reunited the Lotto Line, he struggled - and that line struggled (if I recall) He turned a 24 goal Hoglander into a playoff dud. Petey's in a Super Funk, got the Yips. Hope he figures it out before it's over. Longest period the Lotto Line was re-united this season, Pettersson scored 12 pts, won player of the week. Last few times it was re-united, it was only for half a game or less. Hoglander scored 7 of his goals this season playing with Pettersson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post XxNaslundxX Posted May 15 Popular Post Share Posted May 15 Every single canuck should be waking up asking themselves "why Garland is so good?". He doesnt have the hands petey does, he doesnt have the size joshua or zadorov have, he doesnt have boesers shot, he doesnt have hughes agility. He just raises his game in all areas when it matters. You can visibly see his effort every shift trying his damn hardest. Cant say that about anyone else last night. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Can they just waive him to play in Abby? (next season) Mik needs to re-earn his spot on this team. Saves about 2mil in cap is bought out compared to the ahl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 17 minutes ago, Canuck-Man said: I think I'd like to see these line changes too: Lindholm - Miller - Boeser Joshua - Pettersson - Garland As shown in the last few games, Lindholm + Boeser are great together. Slot Pettersson in with Joshua & Garland in Lindholm's place so he has better linemates and hopefully generate as well. Sure, Let's let Pette screw up Josh and Garly also.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAA Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Can they just waive him to play in Abby? (next season) Mik needs to re-earn his spot on this team. From Cap friendly: "Teams do not receive full cap relief when a player on a one-way NHL contract is reassigned to the American Hockey League, or is loaned to a team in another professional league. The players salary cap hit, minus the sum of the minimum NHL salary for the respective season and $375,000, still counts towards the team’s salary cap total." For buyout, how cap hit will be 2024-2025 = $1 550 000 2025-2026 = $2 150 000 2026-2027 = $1 550 000 2027-2028 = $1 550 000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, DarthMelvin said: I stopped reading after you wrote this... If you can only see a player for what they are during a bad slump then it is probably best you keep working with incomplete information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Yep, at a certain point, the coach needs to realize we need to be able to create offence, and not just on a transition. A strong offence with forechecking can easily eat up 2 to 3min. That's 2 to 3min NOT in our end of the ice. Are Boeser and Miller suffering offensively right now? What about Hughes and Lindholm? They are doing just fine offensively. Kuzmenko was a major liability defensively, he would have gotten eaten alive in this year's playoffs. As for Petey, playing with Mikheyev where every puck goes to die isn't helpful. Neither is playing with Lafferty or Karlsson. Petey needs a legit top 6 winger just like everybody other elite centre does in the NHL, including Miller... Edited May 15 by Elias Pettersson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pycnotic Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Sit Aman, lafferty move mik to the 4th line or sit him doesn’t matter, put Hoglander (he’s always responded back with great games after sitting this year) and lekkerimaki with petey, your at home so you get to dictate the matchups, and for the love of god sit Ian Cole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Kuzmenko was a major liability defensively, he would have gotten eaten alive in this year's playoffs. This, and the 5.5 off the books next year is huge. Some key players need to be re-signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 34 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Yes. Does Pettersson improve whatever line he's on? Can he drive a line? Last they reunited the Lotto Line, he struggled - and that line struggled (if I recall) He turned a 24 goal Hoglander into a playoff dud. Petey's in a Super Funk, got the Yips. Hope he figures it out before it's over. Like I can't even take this post seriously to be totally honest with you. 102 points last year turning Kuzmenko into a 39-goal scorer, 89 points this year even though he was in a slump. It's proven statistically that Mikheyev and Lafferty are the worst ever linemates for Petey. Even McDavid would be suffering with them on the wings. Also, Petey had like 24 points on the Lotto line when it was reunited this year, so have no clue what you are talking about. Also, you really think Hoglander not scoring has to do with Petey? You think Tocchet is that dumb to scratch him if he thinks it's all Petey's fault? Have you actually watched Hoglander play in the playoffs? There isn't a centre in the NHL who would be successful with Mikheyev and Lafferty as their wingers. Not even one... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 13 hours ago, 24K said: There is 0 chance we don't throw Demko if healthy into an elimination game. Absolutely 0. You’d throw a goalie who has played one playoff game and 2 reg season games in past 3 months into an elimination game, when a young stud has come in and been playing regularly and very well for the team? Glad you’re not coach, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Maybe if Petey was reunited with the Lotto Line, or partnered with Lindholm again, it would give him some life. They tried all this stuff already, though, but let's try again. Petey will be faced with a long summer of harsh criticism if he doesn't figure it out in the next 2-3 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghostsof1915 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 28 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: If Petey was 19 or 20 or 21, then I would give him a lot of leeway. But Petey is 25 years old (26 in November), playing in his 6th season, his 2nd playoffs. Petey is struggling under Tocchet because I don't think he can play Tocchet hockey, and he has no confidence. He was doing just fine up until the All Star Break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 54 minutes ago, HKSR said: Last night was particularly bad. I think the numbers were something like the Canucks only winning 32% of the puck battles. That's a combination of the Oilers playing for their lives, but also the Canucks not playing with the level of intensity they needed. If the battles are 50%, the game may have looked a lot different. But that's been pretty much the same throughout this series and a good chunk of the series against the Preds as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Are Boeser and Miller suffering offensively right now? What about Hughes and Lindholm? They are doing just fine offensively. Kuzmenko was a major liability defensively, he would have gotten eaten alive in this year's playoffs. As for Petey, playing with Mikheyev where every puck goes to die isn't helpful. Neither is playing with Lafferty or Karlsson. Petey needs a legit top 6 winger just like everybody other elite centre does in the NHL, including Miller... I look at it that: Miller has 2 goals this entire playoffs. Boeser has 7 goals but with a 31.82% S%... we both know that is absolutely not sustainable. Lindholm with 5 goals with a 27.78% S%... again, not sustainable. Quinn has 0 goals. Reality is our offence has been pretty dry since the ASG. Our defence has been great. I just think we're leaning too far into defence, and not allowing the talent that we have to really just create offence organically. I think Petey NEEDS to be with Lindholm at this point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HarbularyBattery Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 23 minutes ago, spook007 said: Would hate to see our 2 best face off guys on the same line... Those two are supposed to play as much as possible against McD... yea and it doesnt make sense to put petey with joshua and garland. blueger already proved he can do the job there VERY well. petey-lindholm-hoglander suter-miller-boeser joshua-blueger-garland mikheyev-aman-lafferty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, arsenalian said: You’d throw a goalie who has played one playoff game and 2 reg season games in past 3 months into an elimination game, when a young stud has come in and been playing regularly and very well for the team? Glad you’re not coach, lol. If Demko is cleared and team facing elimination, as an organization you have to play the horse that got you there to begin with especially over a rookie. It is the same as the Lack and Luongo situation. If we don't play Demko in that situation then be ready to lose Demko. There will be no coming back from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 53 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: Problem here you identified; we can play defensive hockey, but we cant play passive hockey. We played both last night and it bit us in the ass. That 3rd period in game 3 was defensive hockey with bite...and we won. Again, we should stop pretending it's a one off, this has been the style for most of the post season. They've had maybe three games where they didn't play that way.......it's clearly Tocchets choice to play this way. They've been lucky, but only because Silovs is out of this world right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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higgyfan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 51 minutes ago, stawns said: This team had two highly skilled, high scoring players who could change a game with their skill. One went from 39 goals to what, 8 in a half season and was run out of town because he didn't thrive in a grinding defensive system? The other is, possibly, the most highly skilled individual player the org has ever had and whose offense has disappeared in this grinding, defensive system. At what point is it a coach's responsibility to adjust his own system to let a player like Petey and Kuz do what they do best? The Canucks were always going to be a grinding, defensive team it they wanted to make the playoffs and have any lick of a chance to win a series or 2. Providing playoff experience for the core was the goal and they have certainly acheived it. Pete has been targeted in both series so far and that won't change. He can barely breathe for the # of times he has an opposition player grabbing, hitting, holding, punching or pounding his head into the boards. I don't see how Kuzy would have fared any better. He certainly wouldn't bring anything to the defensive game. Young Pete's favourite player was Forsburg and I doubt it was solely due to his tremendous offensive efforts. Forsburg was a superstar who played the complete NHL game, in the regular season and playoffs. Right now, he is playing more like a Sedin, who were not doing much in the playoffs until they were 26. Until then, they were treated with the same disrespect as EP by the opposition. Eventually, the twins started focussing on building up their core strength and ended up around 190 lbs during their peak years. They took an incredible amount of pounding, but were still able to produce huge offensive #s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: He was doing just fine up until the All Star Break. Yes, then they traded his "fun guy" friend and Petey disappeared. Is he emotionally fragile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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