Coconuts Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Mmm, can't say I'm keen on the idea of throwing Lekkerimaki into the fire, I think we have the horses to win out there already. Yes, our offense has been wanting but for the most part I don't think our forwards have hurt us a ton defensively, I question whether Lekkerimaki would be capable of playing the Oil defensively. NHL playoffs is a big step up from both the SHL and the AHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulcap Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I've never heard Pettey sound great unless he's coming off a big performance. Probably has a bad cold and I'm still convinced he is injured, they won't release details of course, but he's playing it out. He's the 4th best center on our team in the playoffs over a whole game but he's not a defensive liability. Our structure is there, compete level wasn't. I think a few tweaks and soucy back and we'll take them. I do hope hogs comes back with a vengeance, as i said 4th line him, he was great there earlier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 45 minutes ago, YourHuckleberry said: What things do you think Tocchet isn’t letting Petey do? He's not giving him linemates he can succeed with and, while petey us great defensively, the pushing of the defensive, grind it out defense narrative drags down the offense. On the pp, every team line two guys up on Petey's side and as soon as there is a hint if the puck going to hum, both guys jump out to take the 1 timer away. Petey has, essentially become the decoy on the pp. RT has made no move to change the pp in any way and it is grossly predictable and stationary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Blue said: Petey was sick towards the end of the last series. He's streaky and just doesn't feel it now. He just has to play through it. Badgering him will make it worse. Myers was sick too. Is he streaky? Seems like a convenient excuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 45 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: Not the finished version but, Yikes This is a step in the right direction. Tocchet can't keep answering for him. He needs to confront this head on. Something has to change. Embrace the accountability to overcome the adversity. Running and hiding from it won't solve anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Conscience said: Holy fk, look at his body language, were more fked than i thought He's so down because he can't feel it right now. He's beating himself up over it. Put the lotto line together and let him play through it. He's a bit of a head case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 To all the people saying that Pettersson is playing injured, why would the organization allow a player slated to make $11.6M a year to play in a physical series but sit a $5M player for a whole series? It doesn’t add up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Mmm, can't say I'm keen on the idea of throwing Lekkerimaki into the fire, I think we have the horses to win out there already. Yes, our offense has been wanting but for the most part I don't think our forwards have hurt us a ton defensively, I question whether Lekkerimaki would be capable of playing the Oil defensively. NHL playoffs is a big step up from both the SHL and the AHL. I would think Lek is significantly down the depth list to get in the lineup. He didn't do anything in the AHL, why would they toss him into the middle of a NHL playoff series? Edited May 15 by stawns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherCanucksFan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Mmm, can't say I'm keen on the idea of throwing Lekkerimaki into the fire, I think we have the horses to win out there already. Yes, our offense has been wanting but for the most part I don't think our forwards have hurt us a ton defensively, I question whether Lekkerimaki would be capable of playing the Oil defensively. NHL playoffs is a big step up from both the SHL and the AHL. He's also only 19 and hasn't played in the NHL let alone the NHL playoffs. I think Tocchet is trying to motivate players to stay in the lineup, but Lekkerimaki isn't really a chip to do that. Can we expect him to play better than any of the Canucks already playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 We were a few steps behind the Coil last night, I would suggest a Dance Dance Revolution machine be put in the locker room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, stawns said: I would think Lek is significantly down the depth list to get in the lineup. He didn't do anything in the AHL, why would they toss him into the middle of a NHL playoff series? Lekkerimaki is a great prospect but I don't think he's going to be some sort of offensive savior for this team, if anything I think it's more likely he could get burnt defensively. He simply hasn't played hockey at this level yet. I think the better move is to stick with the guys who've been playing and possibly shuffle up the lines a bit. They have the horses to score more than they have been, but with every game this series having been a one goal game I'm more inclined to stick with the players we already know to be defensively responsible. Just now, AnotherCanucksFan said: He's also only 19 and hasn't played in the NHL let alone the NHL playoffs. I think Tocchet is trying to motivate players to stay in the lineup, but Lekkerimaki isn't really a chip to do that. Can we expect him to play better than any of the Canucks already playing? Defensively, I don't reckon so. Offensively? Hard to say, but the idea of turning to a guy who's never played an NHL game for offense isn't exactly comforting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, Blue said: He's so down because he can't feel it right now. He's beating himself up over it. Put the lotto line together and let him play through it. He's a bit of a head case. No need to ruin that line too, he hasn't looked any better than suter there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, Coconuts said: Lekkerimaki is a great prospect but I don't think he's going to be some sort of offensive savior for this team, if anything I think it's more likely he could get burnt defensively. He simply hasn't played hockey at this level yet. I think the better move is to stick with the guys who've been playing and possibly shuffle up the lines a bit. They have the horses to score more than they have been, but with every game this series having been a one goal game I'm more inclined to stick with the players we already know to be defensively responsible. Defensively, I don't reckon so. Offensively? Hard to say, but the idea of turning to a guy who's never played an NHL game for offense isn't exactly comforting. + he hasnt had any tocchet systems training i have a hard time believing tocchet is gonna throw anyone into the lineup that doesnt know his system that said, we desperately need to put some skill beside petey or theres 0 chance he gets going. i dont know how it would work out, but i think putting petey on lindholms wing is our best shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 15 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Tocchet said 5 or 6 guys need to show up, wonder which of those are Mikheyev, Pettersson, Hronek, Cole for sure Edited May 15 by canuck73_3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I wonder if Tocchet made the "I'm thinking about putting Lekkerimaki in" comment, as just a way to motivate his players. Where he feels he has to turn to a 19 year old rookie to get adequate scoring. Wake up veterans, this is your time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Edited May 15 by Rip The Mesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 42 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: It was intense playoff hockey. The way it should be. Oilers were ridiculously desperate in their building. We didn't give up and kept fighting. We almost got them. It didn't go our way. On to the next. Simple. No essay required. As T-Swift would say, "Shake it off!". Like omg, SO relatable!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, HarbularyBattery said: + he hasnt had any tocchet systems training i have a hard time believing tocchet is gonna throw anyone into the lineup that doesnt know his system that said, we desperately need to put some skill beside petey or theres 0 chance he gets going. i dont know how it would work out, but i think putting petey on lindholms wing is our best shot. I know folks don't want to break up the Lindholm line but it's the move that makes the most sense. Let Garland and Joshua play off each other, give Pettersson Lindholm. Suddenly we might have three lines that are a threat instead of two. Every game this series has been a one goal game, give Pettersson more talent to work with and that could very well be the difference. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Stop making excuses for Petey.. His wrist, His line mates, He was sick, The coaching, The best one - He looks depressed, This is a one the highest paid players in the league. Play like one. Enough with the excuses. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherCanucksFan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Watching Tocchet's Wednesday video. It seems like Tocchet wants to motivate players by suggesting players would come out / new players come in, but he also knows it's mostly an empty threat because we don't really have options beyond who is playing already. I think that we may be facing an issue with Tocchet's style as a player and a coach not fitting with players like Kuzmenko, Pettersson, or Ilya Mikheyev who are more stick handling / passing players. He's commonly praised Miller and Garland who are American players with a tougher / assertive style of play. Is he struggling to connect or even understand how to fit Petey or Mik into the style of play that he wants the Canucks to play. Edited May 15 by AnotherCanucksFan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetliner Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Pettersson needs to see a counsellor STAT if he hasn’t done so already His mind is fucked. Has zero confidence handling the puck. He needs to know he’s good enough and get that 11 million dollar price tag off his shoulder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: Sounds like he has a cold or something. Maybe recovering from flu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Regarding breaking up the Lindholm line, it's also more important to get Pettersson going than it is to keep that line together. Garland's driven the third line all year, let him do it. But bottom line is that if the Canucks can't find a way to get Pettersson going they're going to be in tough even if they get past the Oil. They'd be hard pressed to beat Dallas (the likely series winner) without him producing, let alone a team like New York or Florida (I'd be surprised if it's Boston or Carolina who makes the final at this point). They've done well to get this far as he's struggled, but they really need to spark him somehow if they really have cup aspirations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highandinside Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 15 hours ago, stawns said: Do you know how far down the depth list Lek is? Tocchet said today he would be open to using Lek. We don't have many shooters that we can put alongside EP. Plus could help power play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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