Coconuts Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 If Ehlers goes they might as well rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 hmmm one more year @ 6 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: If Ehlers goes they might as well rebuild. Not necessarily, that frees up cap to keep one of Toffoli and Monahan. If they can work their cap out they could even potentially keep both. I'd assume that they may also be looking for a hockey trade if they move Ehlers. It really boils down to whether they plan on extending him after the coming season or not imo, or whether they think he'll want to stay. Ehlers is a very talented player but there are ways to be competitive without him. If Ehlers is actually available there will probably be quite a bit of interest. Edited May 16 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Not necessarily, that frees up cap to keep one of Toffoli and Monahan. If they can work their cap out they could even potentially keep both. I'd assume that they may also be looking for a hockey trade if they move Ehlers. It really boils down to whether they plan on extending him after the coming season or not imo, or whether they think he'll want to stay. Ehlers is a very talented player but there are ways to be competitive without him. If Ehlers is actually available there will probably be quite a bit of interest. I'm sure it should be a damn good haul. I guess Hronek for Ehlers wouldn't fly huh? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I think the Jets need to build their defense up more; probably need to do something similar to what Vancouver did last off-season. I'm not sure Mark Sheifele is their guy either, but getting a center is hard. Maybe Couturier if he is available. A shakeup is needed in Winnipeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 13 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: If Ehlers goes they might as well rebuild. 6 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Not necessarily, that frees up cap to keep one of Toffoli and Monahan. If they can work their cap out they could even potentially keep both. I'd assume that they may also be looking for a hockey trade if they move Ehlers. It really boils down to whether they plan on extending him after the coming season or not imo, or whether they think he'll want to stay. Ehlers is a very talented player but there are ways to be competitive without him. If Ehlers is actually available there will probably be quite a bit of interest. If I were Cheveldayoff and I traded away Ehlers, my thinking would be to just rip the bandage off and start (somewhat) fresh. They've had issues in the past with the current crew (and transients like Dubois) and with two coaches resigning(/retiring) in a period of three years, they might as well reset the culture by booting out the old guard players and bringing in hungrier young punks to fill the ranks so that they can build a team that will grow together. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 38 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I'm sure it should be a damn good haul. I guess Hronek for Ehlers wouldn't fly huh? Winnipeg definitely needs a RHD. That is probably their biggest need. I would definitely explore a trade with them to get both Ehlers and Lowry. Problem is what would it take to re-sign Ehlers? He's basically a 60-point guy, 25-30 goal scorer. Could play with Petey on the left hand side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I'm sure it should be a damn good haul. I guess Hronek for Ehlers wouldn't fly huh? I think it'd cost Winnipeg too much to keep him in Winnipeg, hard to see Hronek going anywhere without an extension having been worked out beforehand. Which isn't to say they couldn't use an upgrade at RD, but Winnipeg has a tougher time reeling in talent. Hronek would have to be willing to stay in Winnipeg. Wouldn't be surprise if Ehlers is moved for a D though, with both Dillon and DeMelo being pending UFA's. 35 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: If I were Cheveldayoff and I traded away Ehlers, my thinking would be to just rip the bandage off and start (somewhat) fresh. They've had issues in the past with the current crew (and transients like Dubois) and with two coaches resigning(/retiring) in a period of three years, they might as well reset the culture by booting out the old guard players and bringing in hungrier young punks to fill the ranks so that they can build a team that will grow together. I think we've seen that already with the Wheeler buyout and the Dubois trade. Vilardi's fit in nicely. I think we'll see a decent amount of turnover with the Jets sooner than later. Their defense is very much in flux this offseason, only Morrissey, Pionk, Schmidt, and Samberg are signed through next season and both Pionk and Schmidt will be pending UFA's next season. Iafollo's 4M will also come off the books after next season, amongst other smaller cap hits. I think we'll see guys like Vilardi and Perfetti get larger roles, and maybe prospects like McGroarty, Vesalainen, Barlow, Lambert, Lucius, Chibrikov, Heinola, Lundmark, and Salomonsson getting looks sooner than later. Vesalainen is on the older side but it's not like the Jets have nothing in the pipeline. Edited May 16 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Winnipeg definitely needs a RHD. That is probably their biggest need. I would definitely explore a trade with them to get both Ehlers and Lowry. Problem is what would it take to re-sign Ehlers? He's basically a 60-point guy, 25-30 goal scorer. Could play with Petey on the left hand side. 60pt guys usually would be in the $6M range... maybe $6.5M with the cap going up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: 60pt guys usually would be in the $6M range... maybe $6.5M with the cap going up. Yeah. My concern is how much of an upgrade he would be on Hoglander. I mean Hoglander is already a 24 goal scorer and is only 23. What if Hoglander can hit 30 next season? Then he is basically the equivalent of Ehlers. So, I would be hesitant to trade for Ehlers unless it also involves Lowry. With Lowry, he could be a 3C or even a 3LW. So, he could replace either Lindholm or Joshua depending on what they want as UFA's. Lowry/Lindholm/Garland would make a remarkable 3rd line. Even better than with Joshua... Edited May 16 by Elias Pettersson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yeah. My concern is how much of an upgrade he would be on Hoglander. I mean Hoglander is already a 24 goal scorer and is only 23. What if Hoglander can hit 30 next season? Then he is basically the equivalent of Ehlers. So, I would be hesitant to trade for Ehlers unless it also involves Lowry. With Lowry, he could be a 3C or even a 3LW. So, he could replace either Lindholm or Joshua depending on what they want as UFA's. Lowry/Lindholm/Garland would make a remarkable 3rd line. Even better than with Joshua... That is a LOT of cap for a 3rd line lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yeah. My concern is how much of an upgrade he would be on Hoglander. I mean Hoglander is already a 24 goal scorer and is only 23. What if Hoglander can hit 30 next season? Then he is basically the equivalent of Ehlers. So, I would be hesitant to trade for Ehlers unless it also involves Lowry. With Lowry, he could be a 3C or even a 3LW. So, he could replace either Lindholm or Joshua depending on what they want as UFA's. Lowry/Lindholm/Garland would make a remarkable 3rd line. Even better than with Joshua... I'd argue that he doesn't need to be an upgrade, because if we acquire Ehlers ideally both him and Hoglander are in the top six. Looking at the roster as is, we already need at least one more top six winger. Sutur isn't a top six winger, Mikheyev hasn't played like one this season, and I wouldn't put money on Lindholm coming back but you never know. I'm leaning towards Mikheyev being back though, so he may end up in the top six again. If we brought in Ehlers somehow our top six would be something like Miller, Boeser, Pettersson, Ehlers, Hoglander, and then a question mark. Maybe Mikheyev. I don't see Lowry going anywhere, they just named him captain in September. Edited May 16 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I'm sure it should be a damn good haul. I guess Hronek for Ehlers wouldn't fly huh? This is interesting. Both have a year left, they both would fit their acquiring teams needs. Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 I'd rather keep Lindholm over Ehlers. Lindholm could probably be locked in at $7M AAV. Ehlers would probably be $6.5M AAV. I'd pay the $500k extra for what Lindholm brings. 3 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Ehlers? He’s small and plays on the perimeter. Perfect for the Haberdoodles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 We need more size and girth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Just now, Alflives said: Ehlers? He’s small and plays on the perimeter. Perfect for the Haberdoodles. cute we posted at the same time the same thoughts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I'm sure it should be a damn good haul. I guess Hronek for Ehlers wouldn't fly huh? 1st pairing RHD for winger should not fly. Would need a big sweetener IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) On the Winnipeg jets over the years he’s: - 1st in CF% - 1st SF% - 2nd in GF/60 (behind Vilardi) - 1st in GF% (62.07%!!!) - 1st in xGF/60 - 3rd in xGF% (behind Nino and Lowry) - 2nd in SCF% (behind Nino) - 4th in high danger chances/60 (behind PLD + a collection of bottom sixers) - 7th in high danger chances % (again, behind PLD + a collection of bottom sixers) Edited May 16 by Odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I'm sure it should be a damn good haul. I guess Hronek for Ehlers wouldn't fly huh? Are you sure you want Ehlers? He doesn't score many goals, production has been dripping for years. Gonna be asking for a pay raise something like 7+mil x 8 years, and then we have Boeser and Hughes we need to pay as well. Be careful what you wish for lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Winnipeg definitely needs a RHD. That is probably their biggest need. I would definitely explore a trade with them to get both Ehlers and Lowry. Problem is what would it take to re-sign Ehlers? He's basically a 60-point guy, 25-30 goal scorer. Could play with Petey on the left hand side. Hronek for Ehlers. Make it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 19 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Are you sure you want Ehlers? He doesn't score many goals, production has been dripping for years. Gonna be asking for a pay raise something like 7+mil x 8 years, and then we have Boeser and Hughes we need to pay as well. Be careful what you wish for lol. Hmm, good point. Maybe Hronek can be swapped for another need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Its like re-opening old wounds.... We could have had Ehlers or Nylander instead of Jake.... and it was not as if they weren't known quantities... I sooooo wanted Ehlers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, HKSR said: I'd rather keep Lindholm over Ehlers. Lindholm could probably be locked in at $7M AAV. Ehlers would probably be $6.5M AAV. I'd pay the $500k extra for what Lindholm brings. If you can get Lindholm for 7 yes. But doubt we can het him at that price. He'll look at Peteys money and want more than $7M AAV... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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