[Rumour] Canadiens may deal young blue liner for scoring help and to alleviate D prospect logjam

[RWJC]

I’ll try to find a credible current source if possible but just overheard on a podcast that there are rumours that the Habs are revisiting entertaining offers on 3 specific defensemen at the draft in order to obtain a scoring F or another early pick and alleviate a logjam on their development side.

 

the blueliners mentioned were:

 

Jordan Harris:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jordan-harris

 

Justin Barron:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/justin-barron

 

Jayden Struble:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jayden-struble

 

 

if true, would love for us to take a run at Barron.

 

Here is a link to an article from last month about it. Apparently things are now heating up again.

 

https://dailyhive.com/montreal/canadiens-trade-rumour-young-defenceman

 

Canadiens willing to trade young defenceman for scoring punch: report

Al Sciola

Apr 25 2024, 9:27 am

 

Looking at the makeup of their roster, it’s clear that the Montreal Canadiens have more young defencemen in their system than they know what to do with.

 

That problem could soon be solved, though. According to a recent report from David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period, Canadiens GM Kent Hughes is willing to make a deal to acquire a forward in exchange for a d-man before the upcoming NHL draft.

“It’s no secret the Montreal Canadiens want to add a scorer this summer, and they plan to dangle some of their young defencemen as bait,” Pagnotta wrote in an article published Thursday. “Habs GM Kent Hughes isn’t afraid to pull the trigger on a deal at/around the NHL Draft, and that seems to be his target again this June.”

 

Acquiring Kirby Dach in the middle of the 2022 draft and fellow forward Alex Newhook one day before the 2023 draft, the Canadiens are no stranger to moves of the sort.

 

Coming off three seasons of rebuilding, Montreal has accumulated and developed a ton of talent on their backend in recent years and are well aware that they don’t have enough space to keep every blueliner under 25.

 

With that in mind, the Canadiens would theoretically be dealing away one of the following young players this summer:

 

Kaiden Guhle

Jayden Struble

Arber Xhekaj

Justin Barron

Jordan Harris

David Reinbacher

Lane Hutson

Logan Mailloux

Mattias Norlinder

William Trudeau

 

Obviously there are untouchables, which, if one had to speculate, would probably include NHL standouts like Guhle, Hutson, and maybe even Mailloux.

 

With a 28th-place finish in 2023-24, the Habs have the fifth-best odds of winning the draft lottery next month, with an 8.5% chance of landing the first overall pick in the draw.

They’ll head into the draft with a total of 12 separate picks.

Edited May 26 by RWJC

[Warhippy]

It's Barron.

 

he has the most value based on size and position

 

They have 5 technical RHD on the roster including Barron.  Some are LH/RH players and they have Reinbacher and Mailloux in the minors both of whom translate and project far better than Barron.

 

I'd be on the phones right now with Hugo to see what he'd be asking for a 6+ foot 200+ pound cost controlled 22 year old RHD that can skate competently.

[stawns]

21 minutes ago, RWJC said:

I’ll try to find a credible current source if possible but just overheard on a podcast that there are rumours that the Habs are revisiting entertaining offers on 3 specific defensemen at the draft in order to obtain a scoring F or another early pick and alleviate a logjam on their development side.

 

the blueliners mentioned were:

 

Jordan Harris:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jordan-harris

 

Justin Barron:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/justin-barron

 

Jayden Struble:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jayden-struble

 

 

if true, would love for us to take a run at Barron.

 

Here is a link to an article from last month about it. Apparently things are now heating up again.

 

https://dailyhive.com/montreal/canadiens-trade-rumour-young-defenceman

 

Canadiens willing to trade young defenceman for scoring punch: report

Al Sciola

Apr 25 2024, 9:27 am

 

Looking at the makeup of their roster, it’s clear that the Montreal Canadiens have more young defencemen in their system than they know what to do with.

 

That problem could soon be solved, though. According to a recent report from David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period, Canadiens GM Kent Hughes is willing to make a deal to acquire a forward in exchange for a d-man before the upcoming NHL draft.

“It’s no secret the Montreal Canadiens want to add a scorer this summer, and they plan to dangle some of their young defencemen as bait,” Pagnotta wrote in an article published Thursday. “Habs GM Kent Hughes isn’t afraid to pull the trigger on a deal at/around the NHL Draft, and that seems to be his target again this June.”

 

Acquiring Kirby Dach in the middle of the 2022 draft and fellow forward Alex Newhook one day before the 2023 draft, the Canadiens are no stranger to moves of the sort.

 

Coming off three seasons of rebuilding, Montreal has accumulated and developed a ton of talent on their backend in recent years and are well aware that they don’t have enough space to keep every blueliner under 25.

 

With that in mind, the Canadiens would theoretically be dealing away one of the following young players this summer:

 

Kaiden Guhle

Jayden Struble

Arber Xhekaj

Justin Barron

Jordan Harris

David Reinbacher

Lane Hutson

Logan Mailloux

Mattias Norlinder

William Trudeau

 

Obviously there are untouchables, which, if one had to speculate, would probably include NHL standouts like Guhle, Hutson, and maybe even Mailloux.

 

With a 28th-place finish in 2023-24, the Habs have the fifth-best odds of winning the draft lottery next month, with an 8.5% chance of landing the first overall pick in the draw.

They’ll head into the draft with a total of 12 separate picks.

 

Id love if Van could find a way to get Huston, but I don't think they have the right assets to do it

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

Id love if Van could find a way to get Huston, but I don't think they have the right assets to do it

Where would Hutson play in our lineup?  
Really the Haberdoodles have nothing we would want except for Suzuki. On D they have nothing. 

[Alflives]

26 minutes ago, RWJC said:

I’ll try to find a credible current source if possible but just overheard on a podcast that there are rumours that the Habs are revisiting entertaining offers on 3 specific defensemen at the draft in order to obtain a scoring F or another early pick and alleviate a logjam on their development side.

 

the blueliners mentioned were:

 

Jordan Harris:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jordan-harris

 

Justin Barron:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/justin-barron

 

Jayden Struble:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jayden-struble

 

 

if true, would love for us to take a run at Barron.

 

Here is a link to an article from last month about it. Apparently things are now heating up again.

 

https://dailyhive.com/montreal/canadiens-trade-rumour-young-defenceman

 

Canadiens willing to trade young defenceman for scoring punch: report

Al Sciola

Apr 25 2024, 9:27 am

 

Looking at the makeup of their roster, it’s clear that the Montreal Canadiens have more young defencemen in their system than they know what to do with.

 

That problem could soon be solved, though. According to a recent report from David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period, Canadiens GM Kent Hughes is willing to make a deal to acquire a forward in exchange for a d-man before the upcoming NHL draft.

“It’s no secret the Montreal Canadiens want to add a scorer this summer, and they plan to dangle some of their young defencemen as bait,” Pagnotta wrote in an article published Thursday. “Habs GM Kent Hughes isn’t afraid to pull the trigger on a deal at/around the NHL Draft, and that seems to be his target again this June.”

 

Acquiring Kirby Dach in the middle of the 2022 draft and fellow forward Alex Newhook one day before the 2023 draft, the Canadiens are no stranger to moves of the sort.

 

Coming off three seasons of rebuilding, Montreal has accumulated and developed a ton of talent on their backend in recent years and are well aware that they don’t have enough space to keep every blueliner under 25.

 

With that in mind, the Canadiens would theoretically be dealing away one of the following young players this summer:

 

Kaiden Guhle

Jayden Struble

Arber Xhekaj

Justin Barron

Jordan Harris

David Reinbacher

Lane Hutson

Logan Mailloux

Mattias Norlinder

William Trudeau

 

Obviously there are untouchables, which, if one had to speculate, would probably include NHL standouts like Guhle, Hutson, and maybe even Mailloux.

 

With a 28th-place finish in 2023-24, the Habs have the fifth-best odds of winning the draft lottery next month, with an 8.5% chance of landing the first overall pick in the draw.

They’ll head into the draft with a total of 12 separate picks.

This has to be just about the worst D core of prospects and players ever. Terrible craperolla. 

[Gurn]

@qwijjibo

[RWJC]

2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Where would Hutson play in our lineup?  
Really the Haberdoodles have nothing we would want except for Suzuki. On D they have nothing. 

You have lost your marbles, alien.

They have awesome D in the pipeline. Don’t let your Hab hatred consume you.

 

Edited May 26 by RWJC

[Alflives]

Just now, RWJC said:

You have lost your marbles, alien.

They have awesome D in the pipeline.

 

Nope. Haberdoodles stink. Don’t want any of their sh*t D. Just say no. 

[stawns]

6 minutes ago, RWJC said:

You have lost your marbles, alien.

They have awesome D in the pipeline. Don’t let your Hab hatred consume you.

 

 

Two d pairs with a high skilled, similar style dmen in Hughes and Hutson.  Each running their own PP

 

And let's not forget who Hutson's teammate and frequent d partner was this year 

Edited May 26 by stawns

[RWJC]

9 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Nope. Haberdoodles stink. Don’t want any of their sh*t D. Just say no. 

[Ballisticsports]

28 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Nope. Haberdoodles stink. Don’t want any of their sh*t D. Just say no. 

You were considering it?

[Pears]

50 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

It's Barron.

 

he has the most value based on size and position

 

They have 5 technical RHD on the roster including Barron.  Some are LH/RH players and they have Reinbacher and Mailloux in the minors both of whom translate and project far better than Barron.

 

I'd be on the phones right now with Hugo to see what he'd be asking for a 6+ foot 200+ pound cost controlled 22 year old RHD that can skate competently.

Say the rumoured Hronek-Necas/Kotkaniemi deal happens and we can swing a deal for Barron, that would be a tidy piece of business. What Barron would cost though is the question. 

[flickyoursedin]

3 minutes ago, Pears said:

Say the rumoured Hronek-Necas/Kotkaniemi deal happens and we can swing a deal for Barron, that would be a tidy piece of business. What Barron would cost though is the question. 

Maybe somebody like Mikheyev jk I wish umm it’s probably Podkolzin or Raty

Edited May 26 by flickyoursedin

[qwijjibo]

I would think Barron is tge one theyd most likely want to move considering he'll require waivers this season.  He's hot offensive skills but his defensive decision making needs work. He's a right shot abd has decent size so he could have value. 

 

Harris showed he's a legit Nhler this past season

 He skates well but lacks size. The kind of guy you don't really notice that often, which is a good trait for a defenceman.

 

Struble is  a more defence first, physical type.  Showed well when he got his shot this season

 

I don't think any of them alone brings back the sort of player they're looking for but Mo treal has a lot of draft capital too.

 

Forget about getting any of Guhle, Reinbacker,Hutson,  Mailloux or Xhakaj.  They also have a number of other good D developing in Europe. 

 

Honestly I don't really see a fit with Vancouver. They'd be looking for someone with a higher ceiling that's stuck in a deep system. A guy like Lafreniere before he actually broke out. That's been Hughes M.O.  I expect to see another Dach/Newhook type deal. Vancouver doesn't really have that player available.  Closest would be Hoglander abd I don't think Vancouver will be willing to move him

[qwijjibo]

31 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

Maybe somebody like Mikheyev jk I wish umm it’s probably Podkolzin or Raty

I don't think either guy fits the bill for Montreal 

[Diamonds]

Yes please to Barron, I've wanted him since he was still with Colorado. His biggest knock seems to be lack of consistency, but he does have all the tools to be solid two-way 2nd pairing defenseman and might already be ready to take that step. I'm sure he would develop well playing alongside Zadorov or Soucy. He does probably cost us Höglander though which is a harder pill to swallow.

[Ghostsof1915]

Garland for Barron and the 1st Montreal has from Winnipeg on this years draft?

Garland would jump to top 6 in Montreal, and should get a ton of minutes.

Canucks get a 6'2", 203 lb RHD, and a late 1st rounder. And that frees up Hronek to trade at the draft for a top 6 winger to replace Garland.

Yeah it kind of weakens us on the right side. Maybe then sign Myers and Cole to reasonable short term deals?

Barron played 48 games, 13 points and -3. As a 20 year old.

 

Alf has an irrational hatred of the Habs, which would be better spent on Leafs, as they genuinely do suck.

[qwijjibo]

28 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Garland for Barron and the 1st Montreal has from Winnipeg on this years draft?

Garland would jump to top 6 in Montreal, and should get a ton of minutes.

Canucks get a 6'2", 203 lb RHD, and a late 1st rounder. And that frees up Hronek to trade at the draft for a top 6 winger to replace Garland.

Yeah it kind of weakens us on the right side. Maybe then sign Myers and Cole to reasonable short term deals?

Barron played 48 games, 13 points and -3. As a 20 year old.

 

Alf has an irrational hatred of the Habs, which would be better spent on Leafs, as they genuinely do suck.

I don't see Garland as a fit fir what they need. But if they did I'd like it would be a lower Pic included. Maybe a 2nd or a 3rd. Garland doesn't return a big young right shot D and a 1st 

[HKSR]

15 hours ago, stawns said:

 

Id love if Van could find a way to get Huston, but I don't think they have the right assets to do it

It'd start with Lekkerimaki and a 1st.  Hutson is further ahead than Hughes at the same age.

[canucks curse]

55 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Garland for Barron and the 1st Montreal has from Winnipeg on this years draft?

Garland would jump to top 6 in Montreal, and should get a ton of minutes.

Canucks get a 6'2", 203 lb RHD, and a late 1st rounder. And that frees up Hronek to trade at the draft for a top 6 winger to replace Garland.

Yeah it kind of weakens us on the right side. Maybe then sign Myers and Cole to reasonable short term deals?

Barron played 48 games, 13 points and -3. As a 20 year old.

 

Alf has an irrational hatred of the Habs, which would be better spent on Leafs, as they genuinely do suck.

they would want Hoglander for Barron and a late 1st 

[Viking_10]

21 hours ago, canucks curse said:

they would want Hoglander for Barron and a late 1st 

may be something Canucks GM considers if he can move that late 1st to get rid of Mik maybe? Swapping Mik for Toffoli would be a huge upgrade for the team. Legit top 6 RWs in Boeser and Toffoli.

 

I would like to see us try and get Necas, he could gel great with #40 and is a well rounded player from what I have seen of his play for the most part

[qwijjibo]

22 hours ago, HKSR said:

It'd start with Lekkerimaki and a 1st.  Hutson is further ahead than Hughes at the same age.

Montreal would politely pass. 

[HorvatToBaertschi]

23 hours ago, HKSR said:

It'd start with Lekkerimaki and a 1st.  Hutson is further ahead than Hughes at the same age.

This is so far from the truth lol 

Hutson played on a far better team. He got sheltered defensively by Willander this year. 

[HKSR]

24 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:

This is so far from the truth lol 

Hutson played on a far better team. He got sheltered defensively by Willander this year. 

Hughes wasn't stellar defensively in college either and wasn't used in a defensive capacity. 

 

From an offensive perspective, it's not even close:

 

Hughes:

At 19yo - 29 points in 37 games

At 20yo - 33 points in 32 games

 

Hutson:

At 19yo - 48 points in 39 games

At 20yo - 49 points in 38 games

 

Have no idea how you can say that "This is so far from the truth".

[qwijjibo]

1 minute ago, HKSR said:

Hughes wasn't stellar defensively in college either and wasn't used in a defensive capacity. 

 

From an offensive perspective, it's not even close:

 

Hughes:

At 19yo - 29 points in 37 games

At 20yo - 33 points in 32 games

 

Hutson:

At 19yo - 48 points in 39 games

At 20yo - 49 points in 38 games

 

Have no idea how you can say that "This is so far from the truth".

Hughes was/is a faster skater at that point. But Hutson is incredibly elusive and has plenty of time to improve his north/south speed