Alflives Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 49 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Montreal would politely pass. No they wouldn’t. And there is zero chance we would make that offer anyway. The Haberdoodles have nothing we want, except Suzuki. There’s good reason why they stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 hours ago, HKSR said: Hughes wasn't stellar defensively in college either and wasn't used in a defensive capacity. From an offensive perspective, it's not even close: Hughes: At 19yo - 29 points in 37 games At 20yo - 33 points in 32 games Hutson: At 19yo - 48 points in 39 games At 20yo - 49 points in 38 games Have no idea how you can say that "This is so far from the truth". Yep, Quinn was brutal defensively at UMich. I went to watch one of their games during his draft year (wanted to see Lockwood in person) and Hughes ended up on my "do not draft" list due his complete lack of wanting to do anything in the defensive zone. Very happy to have been wrong about him though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Go get Struble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 16 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: Go get Struble Struble is a good target but I'm not sure what Vancouver could/would offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) Never mind. Edited May 28 by higgyfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 7 minutes ago, higgyfan said: The dman I would want from Montreal is Mailoux. "First-year pro. (Oct 6/23 -AHL) Big body - right shot - logged an absolute ton of ice time playing for the London Knights (OHL) Rangy - good skater - can attack off the rush in open ice and has the ability to beat opponents off the edge - shoots the puck with authority Defending detail will evolve as he matures - there are times he jumps to plays too quickly on the half wall in his zone - allowing opponent to spill off him along the boards and take pucks to the net - all about timing Not punishing physically but certainly capable of handling weight Needs time but he could end up as a 2PD who logs significant minutes at ES and PP." Compete/Consistency: 84 Defensive Zone Starts: 75 Hockey IQ: 80 Offensive Zone Starts: 85 Penalty Kill: 65 Power Play: 84 Physicality: 69 Puck Moving/Passing: 79 Shot: 86 Skating: 85 https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/logan-mailloux Hogs would be a good fit in Montreal, they only have 1 LW that scores goals Baron is good pickup as well, but seems to be struggling of late. He's a year younger than Mailoux and is no longer waiver exempt. Baron doesn't get Hogs straight up. Hogs + Amen for Baron + Jake Evans (C-r) I'm not sure what the return for Mailoux would be, but his value should include the advantage of 2 more years waiver exempt. I'm pretty sure Mailoux is on the "not available" list atm Edited May 27 by qwijjibo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: The dman I would want from Montreal is Mailoux. "First-year pro. (Oct 6/23 -AHL) Big body - right shot - logged an absolute ton of ice time playing for the London Knights (OHL) Rangy - good skater - can attack off the rush in open ice and has the ability to beat opponents off the edge - shoots the puck with authority Defending detail will evolve as he matures - there are times he jumps to plays too quickly on the half wall in his zone - allowing opponent to spill off him along the boards and take pucks to the net - all about timing Not punishing physically but certainly capable of handling weight Needs time but he could end up as a 2PD who logs significant minutes at ES and PP." Compete/Consistency: 84 Defensive Zone Starts: 75 Hockey IQ: 80 Offensive Zone Starts: 85 Penalty Kill: 65 Power Play: 84 Physicality: 69 Puck Moving/Passing: 79 Shot: 86 Skating: 85 https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/logan-mailloux Hogs would be a good fit in Montreal, they only have 1 LW that scores goals Baron is good pickup as well, but seems to be struggling of late. He's a year younger than Mailoux and is no longer waiver exempt. Baron doesn't get Hogs straight up. Hogs + Amen for Baron + Jake Evans (C-r) I'm not sure what the return for Mailoux would be, but his value should include the advantage of 2 more years waiver exempt. um, no, we don't want anything to do with this creep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: I'm pretty sure Mailloux is on the "not available" list atm Good; way, way too much baggage. He'd get run out of town, likely before he even played a game here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just now, Gurn said: Good; way, way too much baggage. He'd get run out of town, likely before he even played a game here. we're not desperate enough to want this guy. Seems more like an Oiler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Gurn said: Good; way, way too much baggage. He'd get run out of town, likely before he even played a game here. A guess 1 strike and you're out huh? The kid shared a Pic of a consensual sexual encounter with a girl of legal age with his teammates. I'm not downplaying it but let's not act like the kid is a serial abuser. He's owned up to what he did, gone through counseling and everything else he could do. I'm totally fine with Montreal hanging on to the kid and giving him a chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 24 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: A guess 1 strike and you're out huh? The kid shared a Pic of a consensual sexual encounter with a girl of legal age with his teammates. I'm not downplaying it but let's not act like the kid is a serial abuser. He's owned up to what he did, gone through counseling and everything else he could do. I'm totally fine with Montreal hanging on to the kid and giving him a chance Yep- 1 strike can be out. depends on the type of swing he made. No way enough people will let that slide. Not enough upside to chance it low reward, high risk. I'd pass. I also wouldn't be the guy leading the, get him out of here, parade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just now, Gurn said: Yep- 1 strike can be out. depends on the type of swing he made. No way enough people will let that slide. Not enough upside to chance it low reward, high risk. I'd pass. I also wouldn't be the guy leading the, get him out of here, parade. It's funny how many people are totally fine with Tocchet's character issues and the fact that he had to enter a plea bargain to avoid jail time with his gambling ring charges. But a kid makes a bad decision, owns up to it and goes through counseling and education but he deserves to be banned from the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, qwijjibo said: It's funny how many people are totally fine with Tocchet's character issues and the fact that he had to enter a plea bargain to avoid jail time with his gambling ring charges. But a kid makes a bad decision, owns up to it and goes through counseling and education but he deserves to be banned from the league Is it funny? I just look at it as different people have different standards about different things. And iirc a lot of people were very leery of Toch being signed, to the point of a bunch of them saying they would not run the risk. Heck there is at least one fan that would love to see Rick sacked today. Also- one of those crimes is not like the other, imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 7 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: It's funny how many people are totally fine with Tocchet's character issues and the fact that he had to enter a plea bargain to avoid jail time with his gambling ring charges. But a kid makes a bad decision, owns up to it and goes through counseling and education but he deserves to be banned from the league False equivalence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Alflives said: False equivalence. That's the wording I was trying for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs and Podz Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 5 minutes ago, Gurn said: Is it funny? I just look at it as different people have different standards about different things. And iirc a lot of people were very leery of Toch being signed, to the point of a bunch of them saying they would not run the risk. Heck there is at least one fan that would love to see Rick sacked today. Also- one of those crimes is not like the other, imo. Double standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: The dman I would want from Montreal is Mailoux. "First-year pro. (Oct 6/23 -AHL) Big body - right shot - logged an absolute ton of ice time playing for the London Knights (OHL) Rangy - good skater - can attack off the rush in open ice and has the ability to beat opponents off the edge - shoots the puck with authority Defending detail will evolve as he matures - there are times he jumps to plays too quickly on the half wall in his zone - allowing opponent to spill off him along the boards and take pucks to the net - all about timing Not punishing physically but certainly capable of handling weight Needs time but he could end up as a 2PD who logs significant minutes at ES and PP." Compete/Consistency: 84 Defensive Zone Starts: 75 Hockey IQ: 80 Offensive Zone Starts: 85 Penalty Kill: 65 Power Play: 84 Physicality: 69 Puck Moving/Passing: 79 Shot: 86 Skating: 85 https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/logan-mailloux Hogs would be a good fit in Montreal, they only have 1 LW that scores goals Baron is good pickup as well, but seems to be struggling of late. He's a year younger than Mailoux and is no longer waiver exempt. Baron doesn't get Hogs straight up. Hogs + Amen for Baron + Jake Evans (C-r) I'm not sure what the return for Mailoux would be, but his value should include the advantage of 2 more years waiver exempt. We don't need a sex offender on the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Hogs and Podz said: Double standard In one case- a guy was running bets, and deprived the government/s of their share of the loot in the other a guy showed off pictures of a girl performing sex acts, without her consent. Yeah, different for sure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: False equivalence. Like "Habs fan". Something about those two words together just doesn't feel right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 50 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: A guess 1 strike and you're out huh? The kid shared a Pic of a consensual sexual encounter with a girl of legal age with his teammates. I'm not downplaying it but let's not act like the kid is a serial abuser. He's owned up to what he did, gone through counseling and everything else he could do. I'm totally fine with Montreal hanging on to the kid and giving him a chance The second someone shares photos without consent, it was no longer consensual. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, Gurn said: In one case- a guy was running bets, and deprived the government/s of their share of the loot in the other a guy showed off pictures of a girl performing sex acts, without her consent. Yeah, different for sure. One was an adult who committed his crimes over a long period of time. The other was a teenager who made a terrible decision , owned up to it and got the counselling abs education he needed to grow as a person. Both were wrong, both were criminal acts, why does one deserve a fresh start and not the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: The second someone shares photos without consent, it was no longer consensual. its funny to see the defence of him going through the league counselling, like he was ever going to pass up his chance on an NHL salary. You know its the off-season when someones upset you don't like a douche canoe on their fav team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: The second someone shares photos without consent, it was no longer consensual. The sexual act was consensual. What followed was not. I'm not condoning what he did. But to act like he's a serial sex offender is ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just now, qwijjibo said: One was an adult who committed his crimes over a long period of time. The other was a teenager who made a terrible decision , owned up to it and got the counselling abs education he needed to grow as a person. Both were wrong, both were criminal acts, why does one deserve a fresh start and not the other Just where did I say Rick deserved another chance? Also where did I say Logan doesn't deserve another chance? I think I was clear on "I would not take that chance". Too much downside, risk damage to the brand, lose fans and revenue? Not worth it. There are other players without the baggage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 13 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: The sexual act was consensual. What followed was not. I'm not condoning what he did. But to act like he's a serial sex offender is ridiculous No? No one is acting like he's a "serial sex offender". Just a regular ol' sex offender guilty of distributing sexual photos without someones consent which is illegal and makes him a disgusting little shit. If people don't want that around the team, I see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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