Dumb Nuck Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 4 minutes ago, Iron Fist said: Steve Kozari- Canadian, born in Penticton, But parents could be from Alberta Dan O'Rourke-Canadian, born in Calgary, but could've been raised a Oilers Fan Jonny Murray- Canadian, born in Quebec City, Parents could be from Alberta Matt MacPherson- Canadian, Born in Nove Scotia, Could've grown up an oilers fan The earth is flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 5 hours ago, J-23 said: Off-topic but I have no idea how any other hockey team beats Canada. McDavid, Mackinnon, Crosby, Bedard. Good luck to the other teams. Yeah? And who's going to play goal? The USA has Demko, Oettinger and Hellebuyck to choose from. Not saying Team USA is better or worse than Canada, just that they'll be pretty damned good. The rest of the roster is might include: Auston Matthews, Toronto Maple Leafs Jack Hughes, New Jersey Devils Matthew Tkachuk, Florida Panthers Brady Tkachuk, Ottawa Senators Jason Robertson, Dallas Stars Jack Eichel, Vegas Golden Knights J.T. Miller, Vancouver Canucks Kyle Connor, Winnipeg Jets Clayton Keller, Arizona Coyotes Dylan Larkin, Detroit Red Wings Tage Thompson, Buffalo Sabres Brock Boeser, Vancouver Canucks Alex DeBrincat, Detroit Red Wings Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks Charlie McAvoy, Boston Bruins Jaccob Slavin, Carolina Hurricanes Adam Fox, New York Rangers Zach Werenski, Columbus Blue Jackets Brock Faber, Minnesota Wild Jacob Trouba, New York Rangers Luke Hughes, New Jersey Devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 18 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said: The earth is flat. Being a fan of a Professional sports team and cheering for a divisional rival day after their season is over is like converting religions for a bag of rice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 51 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said: The earth is flat. That's racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpworsley Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Tkachuck deserves a big apology from OEL instead of sticking with McDavid looked like he was asking to get his stick signed after the game, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 8 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said: Sure, but im not claiming to be superior. You claim to be Dumb...so it is acceptable. I was just being an ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 6 hours ago, Curmudgeon said: Yeah? And who's going to play goal? The USA has Demko, Oettinger and Hellebuyck to choose from. Not saying Team USA is better or worse than Canada, just that they'll be pretty damned good. The rest of the roster is might include: Auston Matthews, Toronto Maple Leafs Jack Hughes, New Jersey Devils Matthew Tkachuk, Florida Panthers Brady Tkachuk, Ottawa Senators Jason Robertson, Dallas Stars Jack Eichel, Vegas Golden Knights J.T. Miller, Vancouver Canucks Kyle Connor, Winnipeg Jets Clayton Keller, Arizona Coyotes Dylan Larkin, Detroit Red Wings Tage Thompson, Buffalo Sabres Brock Boeser, Vancouver Canucks Alex DeBrincat, Detroit Red Wings Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks Charlie McAvoy, Boston Bruins Jaccob Slavin, Carolina Hurricanes Adam Fox, New York Rangers Zach Werenski, Columbus Blue Jackets Brock Faber, Minnesota Wild Jacob Trouba, New York Rangers Luke Hughes, New Jersey Devils Based on these playoffs, Oettinger and Hellebuyck leave a lot to be desired when it comes to goaltending in high pressure situations. I'd also say McDavid has shown he is a single man wrecking crew offensively, even with elite teams trying to shut him down. Add in a Mackinnon or Crosby or Bedard onto his line and it'll be a nightmare for the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 7 hours ago, shiznak said: Even when Edmonton were down 3-0 in the series. I never felt like Florida was the better team. It was just Bobrovsky playing lights out for the Cats and keeping them in the game. It seem like Edmonton has figured him out. Reality is McDavid is a generational talent in his prime. That's extremely difficult to contain. Add in a strong supporting cast of Draisaitl, Hyman, RNH, Bouchard, and Ekholm and you can see why they are in the finals doing the damage they're doing. Goaltending was their only real question mark, and so when Skinner plays halfway decent, they have a strong chance of winning the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Let's face it... if the Oilers manage to come back and win this thing after being down 3-0, they deserve the Cup. It's hard enough to come back from a 3-0 deficit, let alone doing it in the Stanley Cup finals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 12 hours ago, J-23 said: Off-topic but I have no idea how any other hockey team beats Canada. McDavid, Mackinnon, Crosby, Bedard. Good luck to the other teams. By scoring on their less than stellar goaltenders. Canada is severely lacking on that front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 12 hours ago, JeremyCuddles said: Outplayed them in the 2nd half, but lost the game in the first half. I really don't want to see the Oilers make history. It’s our fault, if we didn’t dump and change for the 1st 30 minutes of game 7 against them(while only shooting 2x) we would probably be the ones in the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Oilers will win game 6 I have zero doubt. The league will make sure they get every advantage. If they’re up they’ll get powerplays if they’re down they’ll get powerplays. The NHL wants a legacy for McDavid so they can pump up the marketing machine. Maybe they’ll orchestrate a trade to Utah too in order to sell hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 7 hours ago, Curmudgeon said: Yeah? And who's going to play goal? The USA has Demko, Oettinger and Hellebuyck to choose from. Not saying Team USA is better or worse than Canada, just that they'll be pretty damned good. The rest of the roster is might include: Auston Matthews, Toronto Maple Leafs Jack Hughes, New Jersey Devils Matthew Tkachuk, Florida Panthers Brady Tkachuk, Ottawa Senators Jason Robertson, Dallas Stars Jack Eichel, Vegas Golden Knights J.T. Miller, Vancouver Canucks Kyle Connor, Winnipeg Jets Clayton Keller, Arizona Coyotes Dylan Larkin, Detroit Red Wings Tage Thompson, Buffalo Sabres Brock Boeser, Vancouver Canucks Alex DeBrincat, Detroit Red Wings Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks Charlie McAvoy, Boston Bruins Jaccob Slavin, Carolina Hurricanes Adam Fox, New York Rangers Zach Werenski, Columbus Blue Jackets Brock Faber, Minnesota Wild Jacob Trouba, New York Rangers Luke Hughes, New Jersey Devils Hill, Skinner, Binnington, Ingram, Jarry... not a great list but they're all capable starting NHL goalies. Let the offense and defense do the rest. We know Canada has the better top end offense, and Canada's defense might include: Makar, Hamilton, Dunn, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Bouchard, Doughty, Chabot, Toews, Dobson, Morrissey. Going to be a treat watching Canada vs USA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Let's face it... if the Oilers manage to come back and win this thing after being down 3-0, they deserve the Cup. It's hard enough to come back from a 3-0 deficit, let alone doing it in the Stanley Cup finals. This is how I'm tryongto cope with this. If they can win four straight, gotta give it to them. Asterix though with the reffing and media and schedule behind them. I think the extra day break between games is really helping the Oilers more than Florida imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 4 minutes ago, Rekker said: This is how I'm tryongto cope with this. If they can win four straight, gotta give it to them. Asterix though with the reffing and media and schedule behind them. I think the extra day break between games is really helping the Oilers more than Florida imho. Totally. McDavid and Draisaitl have been playing a TON of minutes. The extra day rest in between games is absolutely recharging those 2 guys. FLA doesn't need to overplay anybody. So they don't benefit much from the extra rest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Florida had one job .... One freakin job...... I could have handled an oiler win in a 7 game series that was back and forth ... To be up 3-0 and then potentially give the Oilers the claim of only the second team in NHL history to come back after being down 3-0 and win .... We will never hear the end of it ..... Florida ... Wake the F up please lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJCF96 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 13 hours ago, HKSR said: Not too long ago, several people on here were touting how the USA were so much stronger and deeper than Canada, but I really don't know how a team can stop Mackinnon, McDavid, Crosby, and Bedard where at least one of them is on the ice for an entire game. And then what about a PP of: Mcdavid Mackinnon Crosby Bedard Makar I will say Canada is deeper or at the very least match with USA in every position except the goalies. USA: Hellebuyck, Demko, Oettinger, Swayman are all better goalies than any Canadian goalies we have at this time. Canada: Binnington? Hill? Thompson? Brossoit? Skinner? Ingram? No one gives me the same level of confidence of any of the USA goalies. In fact, you can argue that the 4th best USA goalie is better than Canada's No.1. In a one game elimination, a hot goalie can absolutely steal the game. Yes, I know, Canada is a stacked team, and an average goalie is can probably win you a game. If you are up against a similarly/equally stacked team in Team USA, then goaltender will have an impact. For example, 2014 Sochi Olympics, head to head, it was a 1-0 Canada win over USA in the Semi-Finals. Goalies in net were Carey Price vs. Jonathan Quick (both in their prime). I am not sure if you put a goalie of a different calibre in net we would still have won that game. And 10 years ago, Canada still had a better team overall and better depth wise. This time around, the gap is much closer. Canada can still win, but it won't be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Florida was just coasting along up until the mid 2nd-3rd they started to finally wake the fuck up..I bet it's over on Fri. Last finals sits in their brain, Don't need that repeat... “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 30 minutes ago, RJCF96 said: I will say Canada is deeper or at the very least match with USA in every position except the goalies. USA: Hellebuyck, Demko, Oettinger, Swayman are all better goalies than any Canadian goalies we have at this time. Canada: Binnington? Hill? Thompson? Brossoit? Skinner? Ingram? No one gives me the same level of confidence of any of the USA goalies. In fact, you can argue that the 4th best USA goalie is better than Canada's No.1. In a one game elimination, a hot goalie can absolutely steal the game. Yes, I know, Canada is a stacked team, and an average goalie is can probably win you a game. If you are up against a similarly/equally stacked team in Team USA, then goaltender will have an impact. For example, 2014 Sochi Olympics, head to head, it was a 1-0 Canada win over USA in the Semi-Finals. Goalies in net were Carey Price vs. Jonathan Quick (both in their prime). I am not sure if you put a goalie of a different calibre in net we would still have won that game. And 10 years ago, Canada still had a better team overall and better depth wise. This time around, the gap is much closer. Canada can still win, but it won't be easy. Sportsnet650 did an segment with Kevin Woodley, the goalie guy; and he asked for an hour to talk about the Canadian goalie issue. sounds like the training/practice and development need fixing-too much to discuss in 15 minutes. hopefully, sometime this summer, he will get that opportunity. Edited June 19 by Gurn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, HKSR said: Reality is McDavid is a generational talent in his prime. That's extremely difficult to contain. Add in a strong supporting cast of Draisaitl, Hyman, RNH, Bouchard, and Ekholm and you can see why they are in the finals doing the damage they're doing. Goaltending was their only real question mark, and so when Skinner plays halfway decent, they have a strong chance of winning the game. You pretty much nailed it. McDavid is just so hard to contain. When he gets the support he needs from the entire team it really makes them hard to beat. He literally pulls everyone beyond the ceiling of their talent and potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, HKSR said: Let's face it... if the Oilers manage to come back and win this thing after being down 3-0, they deserve the Cup. It's hard enough to come back from a 3-0 deficit, let alone doing it in the Stanley Cup finals. Yep. Agree. Will have to eat crow and begrudgingly give them their due if that happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantomex Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 13 hours ago, Canuck You said: 5 hrs later...Panther interview on Sportsnet! They want the Coilers to be CANADA's team SO badly it's pathetic. I honestly wish they'd just cover the series instead of trying to cram this Coilers bullshit down our throats. No one outside of Deadmonton gives a rats ass about McMuffins daily bowel movements. The media in Canada are an absolute joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, HKSR said: Reality is McDavid is a generational talent in his prime. That's extremely difficult to contain. Add in a strong supporting cast of Draisaitl, Hyman, RNH, Bouchard, and Ekholm and you can see why they are in the finals doing the damage they're doing. Goaltending was their only real question mark, and so when Skinner plays halfway decent, they have a strong chance of winning the game. Their blueline is still absolute trash with only Ekholm belonging in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 52 minutes ago, RJCF96 said: I will say Canada is deeper or at the very least match with USA in every position except the goalies. USA: Hellebuyck, Demko, Oettinger, Swayman are all better goalies than any Canadian goalies we have at this time. Canada: Binnington? Hill? Thompson? Brossoit? Skinner? Ingram? No one gives me the same level of confidence of any of the USA goalies. In fact, you can argue that the 4th best USA goalie is better than Canada's No.1. In a one game elimination, a hot goalie can absolutely steal the game. Yes, I know, Canada is a stacked team, and an average goalie is can probably win you a game. If you are up against a similarly/equally stacked team in Team USA, then goaltender will have an impact. For example, 2014 Sochi Olympics, head to head, it was a 1-0 Canada win over USA in the Semi-Finals. Goalies in net were Carey Price vs. Jonathan Quick (both in their prime). I am not sure if you put a goalie of a different calibre in net we would still have won that game. And 10 years ago, Canada still had a better team overall and better depth wise. This time around, the gap is much closer. Canada can still win, but it won't be easy. When you think of it though, in a high-pressured situation, none of those USA goalies (sorry Demko) have won a cup. At least Hill and Binnington have done that. Yes, I know Price doesn't have a cup either but he was regarded undoubtedly as the best in the world at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Sapper said: Florida had one job .... One freakin job...... I could have handled an oiler win in a 7 game series that was back and forth ... To be up 3-0 and then potentially give the Oilers the claim of only the second team in NHL history to come back after being down 3-0 and win .... We will never hear the end of it ..... Florida ... Wake the F up please lol This is the nightmare scenario of all nightmare scenarios and any self respecting Canucks fan should absolutely despise just the thought of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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