Bob Long Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 is there a proclamation somewhere that says he can't PK? maybe it was just how Pitsburg felt like using him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: When was the last time Guentzel played meaningful playoff games? 2017? Do small wingers who don’t kill penalties usually excel in the playoffs? Wasn’t JG the Canes best player in these playoffs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Wasn’t JG the Canes best player in these playoffs? Don’t let facts get in the way of someone’s ill informed preconceived notions… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Wasn’t JG the Canes best player in these playoffs? Didn’t the Canes get eliminated in the 2nd round? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Don’t let facts get in the way of someone’s ill informed preconceived notions… How did the Canes do in this years playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 9 minutes ago, R3aL said: Friedman on 32 thoughts believes Toffoli is ourback up target to Guentzel if we cannot sign him. Im open to Toffoli the only thing is hes gonna take 21-30 Million to sign him maybe more. Hes been signing value deals for awhile and keeps proving himself. Realistically he strikes me as a guy thats gonna score at least 20 till he hes 35. So if hes hunting for an AAV of 6-7M the team that gives him the most term with a chance to compete for a cup is going to get him prolly. And it just worries me to commit big money on term to him with Boeser contract coming up and JL coming up quick behind him. I am not against it thoughI do like Toffoli I am just scared of term this summer. Toffoli is 32… Unless he’s willing to take a two year deal it makes no sense to sign a player that age who has already shown signs of slowing down. If we can’t fix the top 6 problem this summer then don’t sign anyone. Getting stuck with more inflated middle 6 contracts with too much term is what we’re trying to get out of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: How did the Canes do in this years playoffs? And what does that have to do with Guenztel’s contribution? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Didn’t the Canes get eliminated in the 2nd round? Yup. JG was great while Aho and those other bums sucked pucks. Canes are missing the playoffs next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Toffoli is 32… Unless he’s willing to take a two year deal it makes no sense to sign a player that age who has already shown signs of slowing down. If we can’t fix the top 6 problem this summer then don’t sign anyone. Getting stuck with more inflated middle 6 contracts with too much term is what we’re trying to get out of. We will have zero interest in Tofu. He’s too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So is Reinhart, Marner, Nylander. Why do they kill penalties and Guentzel does not? Why do we need to pay a guy almost $10 million who doesn’t play in all situations? Even Boeser kills penalties. Boeser averaged 1s of short handed time this season. Guentzel tripled that at 3s. Edited June 22 by DrJockitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Alflives said: We will have zero interest in Tofu. He’s too slow. I hope so. I was good with him a few years ago, and even as a rental at the deadline. However for a team that has admitted they need to get faster Toffoli does not fit that need. I’d rather fill the roster with 1 year stop gap players than sign a player for the sake of it that doesn’t address team needs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 15 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: How did the Canes do in this years playoffs? Same as us but they are about to lose their best player to us (I actually think he goes to Nashville) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, tas said: jake guentzel. So just him? He’s the only one in the NHL? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 21 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. JG was great while Aho and those other bums sucked pucks. Canes are missing the playoffs next season. Aho is a bum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Let’s sign Stamkos to a front loaded 6 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 23 minutes ago, DeNiro said: And what does that have to do with Guenztel’s contribution? Carolina added Guentzel to go for the cup. Didn’t help them much did it? Why should we do the same? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 4 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: Let’s sign Stamkos to a front loaded 6 year deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I’m not so sure it’s a bad idea. He’s a center, a proven winner and still has plenty of gas left in the tank. It would also bump Petey over to the wing, where he should be. Also, as stated, the deal would be front loaded, to lower the average cap hit and make a buyout not be a total disaster, should it come to that, though I don’t think it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 The reason the pk stuff came up is because a certain poster claimed that Guentzel does everything well. Then posters who can't discuss honestly twisted it into he has to pk. They also ignored the physicality aspect as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: How did the Canes do in this years playoffs? Are you actually implying Guentzel is the sole reason Carolina didn't advance? Because that is ridiculous Edited June 22 by canuck73_3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 18 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: I’m not so sure it’s a bad idea. He’s a center, a proven winner and still has plenty of gas left in the tank. It would also bump Petey over to the wing, where he should be. Also, as stated, the deal would be front loaded, to lower the average cap hit and make a buyout not be a total disaster, should it come to that, though I don’t think it would. Be that as it may, I doubt he leaves Tampa It'd be very interesting if he hit the market, but I doubt he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Carolina added Guentzel to go for the cup. Didn’t help them much did it? Why should we do the same? 9 points in 11 games says he did. Is he responsible for the entire teams success? Maybe they needed other guys to step up or better goaltending you think? Edited June 22 by DeNiro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: When was the last time Guentzel played meaningful playoff games? 2017? Do small wingers who don’t kill penalties usually excel in the playoffs? 67pts in 69 playoff games 9 in 11 this season how much more consistant do you want? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 4 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: 67pts in 69 playoff games 9 in 11 this season how much more consistant do you want? I can’t believe people are bringing up his size and playoff production. Like clearly his size hasn’t affected his ability to perform in a tough environment like the playoffs. Spouting about a players height, points, and what their team did tells you they haven’t actually watched the player that much. Edited June 22 by DeNiro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 7 hours ago, Alflives said: Miller took a super team friendly deal to live here. He’s an 11 mil guy. JG will sign with us: 9.5 x 7. Do you honestly believe that Miller left 21 million on the table? That's asinine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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