Rob Eh Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 13 hours ago, Satchmo said: Maine’s top election official has removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 primary ballot, in a surprising decision based on the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.” https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/politics/trump-maine-14th-amendment-ballot/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, MidKnight Ego said: I love how the democrats after trying to get Trump arrested for unconstitutionally trying to affect the election, are now doing the exact same thing. doesnt matter whether you are a democrat or a republican you are a dumbass american inb my books. Please elaborate on how the Democrats are trying to uncontitutionally affect the election in the same way Trump did. This dumbass American would like to know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, StrayDog said: Please elaborate on how the Democrats are trying to uncontitutionally affect the election in the same way Trump did. This dumbass American would like to know. LOL... if you cant figure it out me explaining it wont help... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, MidKnight Ego said: LOL... if you cant figure it out me explaining it wont help... So you oppose any effort to denazify the US. Got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, King Heffy said: So you oppose any effort to denazify the US. Got it. you are funny heffy... i dont oppose anything that happens in the states i just mock it, not my country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: LOL... if you cant figure it out me explaining it wont help... So you don't know. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, StrayDog said: So you don't know. Thanks! so i dont know what? no i do know... im just not explaining it to someone that cant figure it out on their own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, MidKnight Ego said: also as a another talking point, I love how the democrats after trying to get Trump arrested for unconstitutionally trying to affect the election, are now doing the exact same thing. doesnt matter whether you are a democrat or a republican you are a dumbass american inb my books. Just WOW Another talking point... Then when asked what your talking about you dont want to talk about it. 15 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: LOL... if you cant figure it out me explaining it wont help... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Another talking point... Then when asked what your talking about you dont want to talk about it. discussing and explaining are two different things my friend. if someone cant figure out why removing donald trump is unconstitutional then me explaining it will either be a waste of my time as they are a lost cause or they a stubborn liberal who is color blind to the world outside thier party... its literally a lose lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: so i dont know what? no i do know... im just not explaining it to someone that cant figure it out on their own... Doubling down on not knowing. Cool. Now what I know is your opinion has as much value as a Trump IOU. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: discussing and explaining are two different things my friend. if someone cant figure out why removing donald trump is unconstitutional then me explaining it will either be a waste of my time as they are a lost cause or they a stubborn liberal who is color blind to the world outside thier party... its literally a lose lose. Or you could explain what you're talking about so that discussion could ensue. I know, me and my wild ideas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, StrayDog said: Doubling down on not knowing. Cool. Now what I know is your opinion has as much value as a Trump IOU. ok i dont know... you got me... tried to fool you... ahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Or you could explain what you're talking about so that discussion could ensue. I know, me and my wild ideas. god dang it... its a federal issue... not a State issue... if you are acting outside the State in a FEDERAL election its unconstitutional... The State should be demanding answers, not fixing the elections 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Immigrants are the cause of less crime-per capita, than the 'home grown' people. But why let facts get in the way of a rant? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, MidKnight Ego said: discussing and explaining are two different things my friend. if someone cant figure out why removing donald trump is unconstitutional then me explaining it will either be a waste of my time as they are a lost cause or they a stubborn liberal who is color blind to the world outside thier party... its literally a lose lose. but it's literally in the constitution that insurrectionists cannot hold office. meanwhile, it's republicans filing to remove trump from the ballots as these rulings apply to the primaries. a democrat would not have standing to file against trump for the republican nomination. Edited December 29, 2023 by 112 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, 112 said: but it's literally in the constitution that insurrectionists cannot hold office. meanwhile, it's republicans filing to remove trump from the ballots as these rulings apply to the primaries. a democrat would not have standing to file against trump for the republican nomination. It's a grey area, it says if impeached of an insurrection, which he was but found not guilty, obviously, or he wouldn't be running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rob Eh said: It's a grey area, it says if impeached of an insurrection, which he was but found not guilty, obviously, or he wouldn't be running. it says nothing about impeachment. "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, StrayDog said: Doubling down on not knowing. Cool. Now what I know is your opinion has as much value as a Trump IOU. All you have is mud slinging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, MidKnight Ego said: god dang it... its a federal issue... not a State issue... if you are acting outside the State in a FEDERAL election its unconstitutional... The State should be demanding answers, not fixing the elections Thank you my son, I dont know squat about the US constitution but understand your point now. Poster112 seems to have some info. I thought it was dems doing this but he mentions repubs I get the POTUS is a federal appointment but if that person is deemed a criminal should the state have to support the primary ticket?...i dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Trump Said He Would Fight For Workers. He Fought For Business Lobbies Instead. As president, the hotel mogul took the reins off employers at the expense of everyday workers. Now he wants another crack at it. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-fight-for-workers-fought-for-business-lobbies-instead_n_6582109be4b0e142c0bfb54d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 interesting take, thought i'd share: "Trump Should Not Be Disqualified by an Ambiguous Clause" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/29/opinion/trump-section-3-14th-amendment.html 3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Thank you my son, I dont know squat about the US constitution but understand your point now. Poster112 seems to have some info. I thought it was dems doing this but he mentions repubs I get the POTUS is a federal appointment but if that person is deemed a criminal should the state have to support the primary ticket?...i dunno I did a bit of reading on it, and apparently the Maine case was brought forth by a bipartisan group of former lawmakers. The Colorado case was brought forth by 6 Republicans iirc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, 112 said: it says nothing about impeachment. "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability." Ask her slowly, very slowly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rob Eh said: Bravo, Shenna!! Edited December 29, 2023 by Cerridwen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Rob Eh said: Ask her slowly, very slowly. why do you think it matters within the context of this decision whether trump has been charged/convicted? the court has jurisdiction to decide whether he engaged in insurrection or not. Edited December 29, 2023 by 112 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I agree, Mr. X-Mas Poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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