Elias Pettersson Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: Great. You admit that illegal immigration has been happening for ages. You also seem to admit that Biden and Obama deported more than TRUMP. There also was this legislation that would have increased the numbers of boarder agents, increased funding for immigration courts (the vehicle to DEPORT illegal immigrants), and change rules regarding asylum (LEGAL IMMIGRATION like the Haiti folks in Springfield). The party that was against that legislation is actually for open boarders. Guess who killed it? TRUMP and the HOUSE QOP. NOT THE DEMOCRATS. OOPS Didn't the Democrats hold the power in the House and Senate in 2021 and 2022? What happened then? They had control of all 3 branches of government did they not? That graph shows illegal immigration skyrocketing in 2021. Someone blamed it on COVID. Is COVID the reason why the border was open in 2021 and 2022? Also, that bill you speak of wasn't even introduced until 2024. What about the 3 years prior to that? Also, from what I read the Republicans killed the deal because it was linked to other concessions, including giving amnesty to illegals. Edited October 12 by Elias Pettersson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 23 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: Great. You admit that illegal immigration has been happening for ages. You also seem to admit that Biden and Obama deported more than TRUMP. There also was this legislation that would have increased the numbers of boarder agents, increased funding for immigration courts (the vehicle to DEPORT illegal immigrants), and change rules regarding asylum (LEGAL IMMIGRATION like the Haiti folks in Springfield). The party that was against that legislation is actually for open boarders. Guess who killed it? TRUMP and the HOUSE QOP. NOT THE DEMOCRATS. OOPS DeSantis F#ed around and has moved into the find out stage. After two tornadoes and two consecutive hurricanes with a third on the way and the Florida construction industry already reeling from a severe labour shortage caused by many factors, not least of which is the passing of SB 1718, a sweeping anti-immigration law passed into effect last July, it’s fair to ask who is going to do the rebuilding? It’s a mistake by those who think that immigrants on work visas are just picking fruit and working the fields. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Curmudgeon Posted October 12 Popular Post Share Posted October 12 5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Also, from what I read the Republicans killed the deal because it was linked to other concessions, including giving amnesty to illegals. With respect, bullshit. The Republicans killed the bill because Donald Trump told them to. Even though the bill was written by a Republican and had broad bipartisan support, Trump wanted it killed, and so they did. 5 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 1 minute ago, 4petesake said: It’s a mistake by those who think that immigrants on work visas are just picking fruit and working the fields. Thing is, states like Florida badly need those types of workers: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3147488/florida-crackdown-illegal-immigrants-hurt-farm-workers/ As the farmers in the Britain found out after Brexit. Most people don't want to do that back braking, low paid work. Except for many migrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 2 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: With respect, bullshit. The Republicans killed the bill because Donald Trump told them to. Even though the bill was written by a Republican and had broad bipartisan support, Trump wanted it killed, and so they did. Yeah regardless of the merits of demerits of the bill, Herr Vonn Sh*tforPants wasn't going to let Sleepy Joe have any kind of bipartisan deal (couldn't have had that many demerits if the GOP in the Senate committee approved that deal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Just now, NewbieCanuckFan said: Thing is, states like Florida badly need those types of workers: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3147488/florida-crackdown-illegal-immigrants-hurt-farm-workers/ As the farmers in the Britain found out after Brexit. Most people don't want to do that back braking, low paid work. Except for many migrants. Exactly and that’s what Florida is finding out with construction. Backbreaking work in the blazing sun and humidity, in a state that rolls back worker safety regulations and protections. A 2020 Census Bureau report estimated that immigrants accounted for 37% of all construction workers in Florida. In 2021, foreign-born workers accounted for 4.38 million of the Sunshine State's overall labor force, including an estimated 481,800 in the construction industry, according to the bureau's most recent population estimates program report. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 23 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: With respect, bullshit. The Republicans killed the bill because Donald Trump told them to. Even though the bill was written by a Republican and had broad bipartisan support, Trump wanted it killed, and so they did. So, what did the Democrats do prior to this bill being tabled in 2024? You understand they took power in 2021 controlling every branch of government right? Why do people only speak of this 2024 bill being killed but don't mention the 3 years prior where illegal immigration skyrocketed under a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Can you explain that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, what did the Democrats do prior to this bill being tabled in 2024? You understand they took power in 2021 controlling every branch of government right? Why do people only speak of this 2024 bill being killed but don't mention the 3 years prior where illegal immigration skyrocketed under a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Can you explain that? It was tabled in 2023. It was killed in 2024. The answer to your question is available to anyone who choses to look for it. Here's one overview of recent years: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65574725 Here's another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_policy_of_the_Joe_Biden_administration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 17 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, what did the Democrats do prior to this bill being tabled in 2024? You understand they took power in 2021 controlling every branch of government right? Why do people only speak of this 2024 bill being killed but don't mention the 3 years prior where illegal immigration skyrocketed under a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Can you explain that? Change the subject 101 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Trump Uses Shocking Slur About Kamala Harris During Private Fundraiser, Maggie Haberman Reports https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-uses-shocking-slur-about-kamala-harris-during-private-fundraiser-maggie-haberman-reports/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Harris releases medical report, drawing contrast with Trump https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/harris-releases-medical-report-drawing-contrast-with-trump/ar-AA1s9sv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 21 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, what did the Democrats do prior to this bill being tabled in 2024? You understand they took power in 2021 controlling every branch of government right? Why do people only speak of this 2024 bill being killed but don't mention the 3 years prior where illegal immigration skyrocketed under a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Can you explain that? hey don’t forget Trump was in power from 2016 . He built 10 miles of a louvred fence you could walk around , climb , and fly over probably looking for promotional contracts and kick backs lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 17 hours ago, MillersWrister said: He actually didn't say that He is talking about the stat that came out from the govt that 10's of thousands of ILLEGAL migrants are violent offenders Also, there's a reason there are borders and legal immigration What he didn't mention is the fact that that stat is based on the past 40 years, not the past 4.... Meaning the Trump administration is also to blame for those numbers, as are the Reagan, Clinton. Obama and both Bush administrations.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 23 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Harris releases medical report, drawing contrast with Trump https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/harris-releases-medical-report-drawing-contrast-with-trump/ar-AA1s9sv8 No way Trump releases his medical report, it would kill his campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Didn't the Democrats hold the power in the House and Senate in 2021 and 2022? What happened then? They had control of all 3 branches of government did they not? That graph shows illegal immigration skyrocketing in 2021. Someone blamed it on COVID. Is COVID the reason why the border was open in 2021 and 2022? Also, that bill you speak of wasn't even introduced until 2024. What about the 3 years prior to that? Also, from what I read the Republicans killed the deal because it was linked to other concessions, including giving amnesty to illegals. The democrats had a tied Senate with a democrat tie breaker, but I'm sure you're well aware of the roll Manchin and Sinema played in this matter? Now if you want to talk about a majority in all three branches and not getting shit done, do I have a story for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 22 minutes ago, SilentSam said: hey don’t forget Trump was in power from 2016 . He built 10 miles of a louvred fence you could walk around , climb , and fly over probably looking for promotional contracts and kick backs lol It was a big wall Sam. It was Bigly. It was probably the biggest wall ever built really... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post RupertKBD Posted October 12 Popular Post Share Posted October 12 16 hours ago, bolt said: This is laughably ridiculous... You can tell it's an official chart by the headlines, "Biden World Record Illegal Immigrants", "Many from Prisons and Mental Institutions, Also Terrorists" and the "Nothing Like This Has Ever Happened to Out Country Before!" It's like someone took Donald Trump's babbling at one of his rallies, turned it into an Excel Spreadsheet and converted it into a chart..... 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 55 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, what did the Democrats do prior to this bill being tabled in 2024? You understand they took power in 2021 controlling every branch of government right? Why do people only speak of this 2024 bill being killed but don't mention the 3 years prior where illegal immigration skyrocketed under a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Can you explain that? They never held power, don't be ignorant you absolutely know better than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 27 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Harris releases medical report, drawing contrast with Trump https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/harris-releases-medical-report-drawing-contrast-with-trump/ar-AA1s9sv8 That’s fine and all but can she recite these 5 words - person, woman…ah…cat..no wait that’s not it. Person, woman, camera…awe f#!k it. I guess I don’t have the cognitive ability to ever be the President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 8 minutes ago, Warhippy said: They never held power, don't be ignorant you absolutely know better than that The Democrats didn't control all 3 branches of government in 2021 and 2022? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 On a completely different note, this thread seems to be the appropriate place to post this... Seems like I hit all ten personality traits... The 10 Personality Traits Linked to High IQ The 10 Personality Traits Linked to High IQ Curiosity Adaptability Open-mindedness Self-control Introversion Emotional stability Independence Perfectionism Sense of humor Abstract thinking 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: The Democrats didn't control all 3 branches of government in 2021 and 2022? 22 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: The democrats had a tied Senate with a democrat tie breaker, but I'm sure you're well aware of the roll Manchin and Sinema played in this matter? Now if you want to talk about a majority in all three branches and not getting shit done, do I have a story for you. Asked and answered. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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