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28 minutes ago, Duodenum said:

Wouldn't be surprised if it took Trump longer to do his makeup every morning than Harris. Nice to see his support for the gay community.

I'm not a makeup expert by any means but isn't there a way to blend the colour in with the hairline better? Looks like this stuff was put on with frog tape to keep a nice sharp line with the crown moulding. Like his makeup team is clowning him, and you know he's got a makeup team, lol.

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10 hours ago, the destroyer of worlds said:

Great.  You admit that illegal immigration has been happening for ages.  You also seem to admit that Biden and Obama deported more than TRUMP.  

 

There also was this legislation that would have increased the numbers of boarder agents, increased funding for immigration courts (the vehicle to DEPORT illegal immigrants), and change rules regarding asylum (LEGAL IMMIGRATION like the Haiti folks in Springfield).

 

The party that was against that legislation is actually for open boarders.  Guess who killed it?  TRUMP and the HOUSE QOP.  NOT THE DEMOCRATS.

 

 

OOPS

The legislation didn't close the border to illegals did it. Nice try. No deal. 

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10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Didn't the Democrats hold the power in the House and Senate in 2021 and 2022?  What happened then?  They had control of all 3 branches of government did they not?  That graph shows illegal immigration skyrocketing in 2021.  Someone blamed it on COVID.  Is COVID the reason why the border was open in 2021 and 2022?

 

Also, that bill you speak of wasn't even introduced until 2024.  What about the 3 years prior to that?  Also, from what I read the Republicans killed the deal because it was linked to other concessions, including giving amnesty to illegals.

Linked to other concessions?! It didn't even close the border to lllegals. 

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17 minutes ago, Cranston said:

The legislation didn't close the border to illegals did it. Nice try. No deal. 

 

11 minutes ago, Cranston said:

Linked to other concessions?! It didn't even close the border to lllegals. 

YAaaawwwwn

 

So hey, let's do absolutely NOTHING and blame it on the democrats and then we can make it a huge election issue talking point and if we win we can fix it anyway.  Sure, seems like they care Cranny

 

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/

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15 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

 

YAaaawwwwn

 

So hey, let's do absolutely NOTHING and blame it on the democrats and then we can make it a huge election issue talking point and if we win we can fix it anyway.  Sure, seems like they care Cranny

 

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/

If a miracle happens and Trump wins the border will be closed to illegal crossing as it was when he was in office. That bill was full of holes, it was worse than nothing. The border  closes if 5000 cross, big deal, it reopens the next day? If you know otherwise, let us know. Explain it, don't just post vague articles that really say nothing.

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6 minutes ago, Cranston said:

If a miracle happens and Trump wins the border will be closed to illegal crossing as it was when he was in office. That bill was full of holes, it was worse than nothing. The border  closes if 5000 cross, big deal, it reopens the next day? If you know otherwise, let us know. Explain it, don't just post vague articles that really say nothing.

lmao ok gonna ask a SERIOUSLY hard question here for you.

 

When trump was in power ok.  When exactly was the border closed?  What caused said closure.  What were the average yearly numbers under trump while in office?  Finally, since the end of covid have the numbers been dropping or not?

 

Go on.  Give me dates and circumstances.  This should be amusing 

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16 minutes ago, Cranston said:

If a miracle happens and Trump wins the border will be closed to illegal crossing as it was when he was in office. That bill was full of holes, it was worse than nothing. The border  closes if 5000 cross, big deal, it reopens the next day? If you know otherwise, let us know. Explain it, don't just post vague articles that really say nothing.


 

Sad that you feel so strongly about a bill that you know nothing about except what you’ve “heard.”

 

5000 is only the number that triggers the mandatory activation of the emergency authority which allows the US Customs and Border Protection to detain and deport without screening. The bill also extended discretionary activation to the Homeland Security Secretary if there was an average of 4000 or more over seven consecutive days. Note that that threshold was reached under Trump in May of 2019 already.

 

Senator James Langford, Republican coauthor of the bill  “It’s not that the first 5,000 [migrants encountered at the border] are released, that’s ridiculous,” Lankford said on the Senate floor. “The first 5,000 we detain, we screen and then we deport. If we get above 5,000, we just detain and deport.”


The bill was also supported by several groups that typically align with Republicans, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal editorial board. The National Border Patrol Council, a union that represents about 18,000 border patrol agents, also endorsed the bill.

 

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The Bill, in Brief

The $118 billion bill, called the Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, sought significant changes in border policy. It includedmoney to build more border barriers, to greatly expand detention facilities, and to hire more Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol agents, asylum officers and immigration judges to reduce the years-long backlog in cases to determine asylum eligibility. It sought to expedite the asylum process, essentially ending — in most cases — the so-called “catch and release” policy whereby migrants are released into the U.S. pending asylum hearings. And it would have increased the standard of evidence needed to win asylum status. 

The bill also would have supplied more funding to interdict fentanyl and human trafficking, and it included $60 billion in aid for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel.

“It doesn’t have everything in it I wanted, it doesn’t have everything it it my Democratic colleagues wanted,” one of the architects of the bill, Republican Sen. James Lankford, said from the Senate floor before the vote was taken. “But it definitely makes a difference.”

In the lead-up to the vote, Lankford accused his Republican colleagues of opposing the bill on political, rather than policy, grounds. 

“It is interesting: Republicans, four months ago, would not give funding for Ukraine, for Israel and for our southern border because we demanded changes in policy,” Lankford said on CNN. “And now, it’s interesting, a few months later, when we’re finally getting to the end, they’re like, ‘Oh, just kidding, I actually don’t want a change in law because it’s a presidential election year.’”

 

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