US Politics Thread

[SilentSam]

 

[4petesake]

7 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said:

There is this though.  

 

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state

Several states that do not require identification generally require first-time voters to present identification at the polls. Other states that don't generally require identification may require it if the voter did not provide proper identification to register. Federal law requires newly registered voters to provide either a driver's license number or the last four digits of their Social Security Numbers at the time of registration. Many states that require identification allow voters to cast provisional ballots if they do not have the required identification.

 

There are good reasons why some states have no photo id requirements and allow voters to cast provisional ballots, and keep in mind that provisional ballots have a much higher rate of rejection. 

Also two states that require state issued id do not allow changes of gender on that id so transgender folks in those states have been disenfranchised. American citizens that are supposed to have full rights by law pay taxes but can not vote!

 

Nearly 29 million Americans did not have current driver’s licenses and 7.6 million did not have any nonexpired government-issued photo IDs in 2020, according to a University of Maryland report that used a representative sample from an American National Election Studies survey. Survey participants who identified as Black or Hispanic were twice as likely as other groups to lack photo IDs, and 18- to 29-year-olds in these demographics were the least likely to have driver’s licenses or any photo ID out of all other groups. 

[SilentSam]

 

 

[SilentSam]

Dudes done ‘..!

 

 

 

 

[Cranston]

9 minutes ago, 4petesake said:

 

The elections are auditable and are thoroughly audited so that was false.
Your comment on photo id requirements is at least partially true.

 

As of April 2024, 35 states require some form of ID at the polls, according to Ballotpedia. Of those, 24 states mandate photo identification, while 11 allow non-photo IDs. The remaining 15 states do not require ID to vote in person on Election Day.

 

 

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

[4petesake]

14 minutes ago, Cranston said:

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

 

“A bunch of fake votes” makes for a good story but like Haitians in Springfield eating our pets, it’s just not backed up by facts. When you repeat the lie often enough the rubes will start to take it as fact no matter how much evidence there is to debunk it.

 

 

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

19 minutes ago, Cranston said:

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

You do realize there are other ways they can verify identity and that all voters are identified before they can vote, yes? Again, the government's knows who it's citizens are. 

[bolt]

 

[Curmudgeon]

1 hour ago, SilentSam said:

 

 

So.....a guy with 34 convictions for a shady non-disclosure agreement funneled through his company, wants to reduce Stormy's legal debt to him by $30,000 if she agreed to sign another non-disclosure agreement. She refused and he settled for just a couple of thousand more than she originally believed the bill to be. That has to be the Trumpiest  thing Trump has done since the last time he tried to act like a gangster, which was probably today or yesterday.

[Outsiders]

7 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

 

lol @ what a p*ssy Bret is.

 

She gets worse every time she speaks. No wonder they don't let her talk. She had a platform to talk about her policies. Instead all she did was hate on Trump and say go to my website its all there take a look. She's pathetic. Thankfully this will be over soon so all you people with the blinders on can wake up. She's a puppet!

[PistolPete13]

3 hours ago, the destroyer of worlds said:

Provide evidence of said cheating.  Like how?

 

You do realize that the QOP run Georgia elections and a number of other states elections right?  Some states have nonpartisan elections organizations like we have here in Canada.   

 

Show us a location.   Any location that a person can just shoe up with no I D and their vote counts.  Any.

He heard it somewhere and it confirms a bias that he has, so it must be true. Q exists because critical thinkers like Mr Bolt roam freely in our midst. 

[PistolPete13]

2 hours ago, Cranston said:

Correct. Elections are not auditable, therefore the biggest cheater will win.

 

[PistolPete13]

2 hours ago, Cranston said:

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

And yet Trump did nothing about this “problem” while he had the chance from 2016 to 2020? 

[PistolPete13]

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11 hours ago, PistolPete13 said:

Nvm

 

Edited yesterday at 08:34 AM by PistolPete13

[Warhippy]

2 hours ago, Cranston said:

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

Voter fraud is real and it's bad and ohh...shit.

 

guess this doesn't help your case does it when you realize who these are and who they illegally voted for eh

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/georgia-republican-party-official-voted-illegally-nine-judge-rules-rcna145563

 

Man...republicans really do enjoy fraudulently voting don't they?

Edited yesterday at 09:05 AM by Warhippy

[StrayDog]

13 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said:

If you are overseas for an extended period of time and cant make it to a voting booth then maybe you dont get a vote in that election. I would like advance voting periods extended to include as many people as possible, advance polling stations can be put close to hospitals ect. Mail is just not a very secure avenue. If people don't believe the system is just then democracy fails, its just a balancing act of increasing accessibility to vote and leaving no room for shenanigans. 

All US military personnel stationed abroad would like to thank you for the suggestion of the removal of their right to vote.....

[SilentSam]

5 hours ago, Curmudgeon said:

 

So.....a guy with 34 convictions for a shady non-disclosure agreement funneled through his company, wants to reduce Stormy's legal debt to him by $30,000 if she agreed to sign another non-disclosure agreement. She refused and he settled for just a couple of thousand more than she originally believed the bill to be. That has to be the Trumpiest  thing Trump has done since the last time he tried to act like a gangster, which was probably today or yesterday.

Curmudgeon ,. 
            If you’re going to watch 1 short video today ,.  This might be the one that helps keep us smiling ..

 

 

 

 

[Alflives]

7 hours ago, Cranston said:

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

Is your posted map suggesting people can walk into a polling stating in some states and vote without proving, with use of id, who they are? 

[Bob Long]

8 hours ago, Cranston said:

Audit a bunch of fake votes, yeah go right ahead lol. There'll be other huge loopholes but why bother arguing about it when you don't even need proper id in swing states. This is a good map from poilitifact. Democrats love no id for voting but not so much to get into their convention lmao. It's all too obvious.

 

Strict photo ID (darkest)

Strict nonphoto ID  

Nonstrict photo ID

Nonstrict nonphoto ID

No document required to vote(lightest)

 

 

 

 

 

Hey here's a question, how do you know that "fake" votes favour Democrats, if you haven't audited them?

 

[Bob Long]

8 hours ago, Gnarcore said:

Look how many down there believe in an invisible sky daddy...  good luck with that. 

 

Is true. The US is going to reelect the orange clown. 

 

 

[Cranston]

7 hours ago, 4petesake said:

 

“A bunch of fake votes” makes for a good story but like Haitians in Springfield eating our pets, it’s just not backed up by facts. When you repeat the lie often enough the rubes will start to take it as fact no matter how much evidence there is to debunk it.

 

 

 

Good idea to throw in a red herring. Saying the claim is false, is false, because it is possible that it is true. WaPo should be more honest. His claim has not, and maybe could not, be proven in a court of law. That is true.

 

It is said half the people in Haiti practice voodoo and animal sacrifice is part of that religion. It has also been said people that people in Haiti have been eating cats and dogs. There are references to this prior to 2024.

 

I'm not putting two and two together so don't bother claiming that I am.

 

 

 

 

[Duodenum]

The funny thing is that one would think the existential risk to the American way of life would come in the form of highly evil, but highly intelligent. 

 

Instead, half of America has been brought to heel by a complete moron lmao

 

2016 taught me that I greatly overestimated people. 

[Cranston]

40 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Hey here's a question, how do you know that "fake" votes favour Democrats, if you haven't audited them?

 

I don't and didn't say they did.

[Bob Long]

Just now, Cranston said:

I don't and didn't say they did.

 

So then what's the problem? 

[Cranston]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Is your posted map suggesting people can walk into a polling stating in some states and vote without proving, with use of id, who they are? 

Sounds like it. What do you think?