RupertKBD Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Sabrefan1 said: Also, as people age, they tend to get more conservative. As the old saying goes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. I think plenty of moderate Millennials will eventually take the place of conservative Gen X'ers and Baby Boomers. I doubt the US will see a significant shift to the left until the Gen Z'ers become the elder generation. Gen Z is so far left as a whole, that I'd imagine that when they take over, the US will become more like present day Europe. I don't like the radical left or the radical right so thankfully I'll be long dead by the time Gen Z takes control. but you'll still be alive if Trump retakes the White House in 2024.... Are you saying you don't think his plans for once he's back in power are radical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: Here's a funny aside. Had Trump somehow won the bidding for my hometown NFL team, the Buffalo Bills, he never would have switched parties and never run for president. Hilary Clinton would be in her 2nd term right now. Didn't the "stable genius" have an option to purchase the Cowboys that he passed on, so he could start up the New Jersey Generals of the USFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, RupertKBD said: but you'll still be alive if Trump retakes the White House in 2024.... Are you saying you don't think his plans for once he's back in power are radical? No doubt they will be radical. Trump is a man who grew up around NYC gangsters. His family has always had to deal with them in the construction industry. Trump will go after every political enemy he has in order to bury them. As for his policies. He wouldn't have to worry about a re-election so if the Republicans have both the House and the Senate, compromise will never happen. Everything will be skewed to the right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, RupertKBD said: Didn't the "stable genius" have an option to purchase the Cowboys that he passed on, so he could start up the New Jersey Generals of the USFL? Honestly, I doubt he had the liquid assets to buy the Cowboys even back then. Jerry Jones himself was barely able to afford the Cowboys back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: For sure people develop more conservative personal values as they age, but that doesn’t necessarily mean those people will be Conservative politically. From what I've read so far, the jury is still out on US Millennials. As for the UK, Aus, NZ, they are still fairly socially and politically to the left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Sabrefan1 said: Problem is that they aren't sure who to turn to. That's why Newsome has suddenly broken out his veto pen lately and squashed some Democrat passed bills in California. Newsome is positioning himself as more moderate than Biden in the hopes that he will poll well enough among moderate independents and that the Democratic party will tap him to run against Trump. Can you imagine how pissed off Kimberly Guilfoiyle would be knowing she was stuck with a coked up, broke ass Jr when she could have been 1st Lady of USA. Edited September 27, 2023 by nuckin_futz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Sabrefan1 said: Want to get annoyed? Do a search on this subject just like I just did. I'm running into a split of "facts" and opinions. The kicker is, it's not even split among left and right. One of the strongest articles saying that Millennials are getting more conservative came from the heavily left leaning NY Times. Whereas a couple right of center articles were saying otherwise. The only consensus I could find were from overseas where both the UK and Oceania (Aus, NZ) says their Millennials are staying more left than their predecessors as they age. I'd imagine that Canada's social trends would follow the overseas social trends rather than US trends. Although US trends apparently aren't academically settled as of yet. Eh I did say I saw some research and not concensus. Well it won't be the first time American exceptionism diverge from global trends. Not that surprised if it is in US seeing how US is a more conservative country and all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuckle Posted September 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: As for the UK, Aus, NZ, they are still fairly socially and politically to the left It's happening everywhere and on a massive scale. Late stage capitalism leaving more and more on the sidelines, disillusioned by the system. And the cat's out of the bag and there's really no going back. Certainly doesn't stop the halls of corporate and state power from trying though-- Funding the revival of the fascist reactionary-right promising to bring us all back to the "good times." Fearmongering, othering, etc. [insert dancing orange clown] [wet fart] But whatever it takes to deflect from class consciousness and keep the masses fighting amongst themselves about bullshit issues while those at the top laugh all the way to the fucking bank. /rant Now if you'll excuse me I need a shower. Blegh. 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 24K said: Eh I did say I saw some research and not concensus. Well it won't be the first time American exceptionism diverge from global trends. Not that surprised if it is in US seeing how US is a more conservative country and all. Yes, you did say you only saw some research, not consensus. It wasn't my intention to say otherwise. As for the US, my guess is that the jury is still out. The media as a whole and one source of academia that I found is all over the place on this issue. I agree though that it's more likely going to be the case that in the US, Millennials are more apt to go conservative. I can't see the same thing ever happening to Gen Z though. They are as far left as it gets. At most, they grow into being centrists and that would even be a serious stretch. *edit* Expanded my opening sentence to make it more clear that I was agreeing. Edited September 27, 2023 by Sabrefan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Can you imagine how pissed off Kimberly Guilfoiyle would be knowing she was stuck with a coked up, broke ass Jr when she could have been 1st Lady of USA. That's assuming that Newsom becomes president. I'm not so sure that Biden will back off and allow Newsom to have that shot. Funny thing is, I could definitely see Jr. running against Newsom in 2028 or 2032. Now that would be entertaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nuckin_futz Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) No, today you became unemployed. Edited September 27, 2023 by nuckin_futz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Here's an example of the radical right: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RupertKBD Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I don't know what the Bone Spurs family is so worked up about.... As I understand it, they could sell Mara-Lardo for 2 billion dollars, pay off their debts and retire comfortably to somewhere on the Redneck Riviera..... ...if they're not all sitting in the crowbar motel, that is.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 A good article if you got the time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 19 hours ago, RupertKBD said: Didn't the "stable genius" have an option to purchase the Cowboys that he passed on, so he could start up the New Jersey Generals of the USFL? Yes. He could have for 50 million. Great businessman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Yes. He could have for 50 million. Great businessman! I believe the NFL owners said no as they didn't want him as an owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: I believe the NFL owners said no as they didn't want him as an owner. While it is tough to believe anything he says the story has long been he passed on the deal. But him doing a rival league after being told to kick rocks sounds like something he'd do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 21 hours ago, Playoff Beered said: I'm still taking a moment of smug to do this .... 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) And a Hump Day occasion to do another Carleton Happy Dance while chuckling ... Judge Chutkan declines to recuse herself from Trumpty Dumpty's trial.... Edited September 28, 2023 by Cerridwen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 And TwitterX suspends me for this in regard to a televised Trump lie at some occasion earlier this evening.... WTAF??? I've said much worse...as have others but this gets me a suspension? I'd be LMAO if it weren't so bloody absurd! Quote @RonFilipkowski He really should have spontaneously combusted after THAT whopper. Sep 27, 2023, 6:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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