Rob Eh Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/29/2024 at 11:14 PM, AatuD2 said: The whole "despicable" thing and comparing him to Adolf Hitler is way over the top for me. I'm supposed to believe that he's a threat to democracy while his political opponents are actually trying to put him in jail so he can't run against them? I'll take 4 years of Trump any day over 4 years of Biden. How much closer do we need to approach World War 3? 26,000 dead Palestinians, 300,000 dead Ukrainians, 300,000 dead Russians, and we're on the brink of a war with Iran. As a citizen of the world, and someone that doesn't like the prospect of a potential nuclear war, I don't want any of the war establishment. Dick Cheney = Bush = Hillary Clinton = Biden. No difference. I really can't take anything seriously that you hear on CNN, MSNBC, or FOX. Mainstream media has long been now a mouthpiece for the establishment and I'm surprised that any of you actually take them seriously after they've been caught lying over and over and over and over again. Follow the money and it should land you directly into the 238 Billion dollar coffer of the military industrial complex (per year). This is exactly what Dwight Eisenhower warned of in his farewell address. He was a 5 star general. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AatuD2 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 31 minutes ago, Rob Eh said: This is exactly what Dwight Eisenhower warned of in his farewell address. He was a 5 star general. One of the best speeches of all-time because it foreshadows what is to come for US. People that pretend that eternal wars aren't in US establishment's interests are dummies. Now let's all wave our LGBTQ flags and pat ourselves on the back for being inclusive while the US government bombs another middle eastern country and implements regime changes that result in thousands of deaths. On the other hand, let's call Trump a fascist, racist, and sexist and stay the hell away from him and his non-interventionist politics. It's gonna be bad for the business of bringing war democracy worldwide. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, AatuD2 said: One of the best speeches of all-time because it foreshadows what is to come for US. People that pretend that eternal wars aren't in US establishment's interests are dummies. Now let's all wave our LGBTQ flags and pat ourselves on the back for being inclusive while the US government bombs another middle eastern country and implements regime changes that result in thousands of deaths. On the other hand, let's call Trump a fascist, racist, and sexist and stay the hell away from him and his non-interventionist politics. It's gonna be bad for the business of bringing war democracy worldwide. The middle east isn't the issue. The republicans seemed more than happy to "drop bombs" and wage war in the middle east for decades. But all of a sudden when an ally in the Ukraine faces an invasion it's "nope, you know, we really need to finally to focus on curtailing this military industrial complex". The republicans have this new found pacifism all of a sudden (while still being fine with dropping bombs in the middle east). It seems odd. Why draw that line there. Wasn't/hasn't been drawn anywhere else in the last 70+ years. Didn't draw the line for Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, Assad. But when arguably the biggest threat to democracy worldwide does something it's time to shutter the military? Seems odd. Especially since we're talking about military aid, not actual American boots on the ground. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4petesake Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, AatuD2 said: Now let's all wave our LGBTQ flags and pat ourselves on the back for being inclusive while the US government bombs another middle eastern country and implements regime changes that result in thousands of deaths. On the other hand, let's call Trump a fascist, racist, and sexist and stay the hell away from him and his non-interventionist politics. It's gonna be bad for the business of bringing war democracy worldwide. What does one have to do with the other? Surely you’re not suggesting we can’t be inclusive of lgbtq+ rights (you know…people) and recognize the existence of the military industrial complex at the same time? That’s a little offensive trying to connect the two and accusing people of patting themselves on the back for supporting human rights for marginalized people. Do you think Trump will do anything to slow the funding to the MIC other than making sure he gets to wet his beak? I agree with you on one thing though - Trump doesn’t give a rat’s furry ass about democracy anywhere in the world, the US included. “People that pretend he does are dummies.” 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 It looks like another bipartisan deal has been made....this time in Congress: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/31/congress-tax-vote-00138968 Quote The $78 billion tax package was sent to the Senate on a vote of 357 to 70, with strong support from both Republicans and Democrats. It awaits an uncertain future in the upper chamber, with some Senate Republicans calling for hearings and others eager to make changes in the bill. Some House progressives voted against the package, saying it wouldn’t do enough to slash child poverty. They were joined by Republicans on the right who grumbled that it’s an expansion of the welfare state in disguise. But moderates from both parties provided the tax deal with the two-thirds majority it needed to get through the House under an expedited procedure known as suspension of the rules. ....and of course, some Senators are already saying the won't support it because it will help Biden's re-election chances: https://www.axios.com/2024/02/01/house-republicans-vote-bipartisan-tax-deal Quote Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), a former chair of the Senate Finance Committee, appeared to say the quiet part out loud on Wednesday when he suggested presidential politics would play a role in the bill's fate. "Passing a tax bill that makes the president look good — mailing out checks before the election — means he could be re-elected, and then we won't extend the 2017 tax cuts," Grassley told reporters, incorrectly characterizing the child tax credit provision as a mailed check. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 hours ago, AatuD2 said: On the other hand, let's call Trump a fascist, racist, and sexist and stay the hell away from him and his non-interventionist politics. It's gonna be bad for the business of bringing war democracy worldwide. You forgot to say convicted rapist. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post DSVII Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 (edited) 12 hours ago, AatuD2 said: One of the best speeches of all-time because it foreshadows what is to come for US. People that pretend that eternal wars aren't in US establishment's interests are dummies. Now let's all wave our LGBTQ flags and pat ourselves on the back for being inclusive while the US government bombs another middle eastern country and implements regime changes that result in thousands of deaths. It's more, let's try and paint LGBTQ grooming kids as a token issue and rile up the reactionaries to ignore the fact that the Republican party has no platform outside of culture wars. Including blocking a bipartisan border security just to deny any sort of win during Biden's presidency. Quote On the other hand, let's call Trump a fascist, racist, and sexist and stay the hell away from him and his non-interventionist politics. It's gonna be bad for the business of bringing war democracy worldwide. What part of that has been disproven? At the very least, he's called for a purging of the government of his enemies, states to defy the federal government on the border issue with their national guards and rewriting the constitution to overturn the 2020 elections. That goes against the 14th amendment clause. Trump also supports the MIC, hundreds of billions in arms have been sold to Saudi Arabia with his regime. Edited February 1 by DSVII 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gnarcore Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: So much #winning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 53 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: I didn't know Ganesh was a republican. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, nuckin_futz said: Kanye West wasn't available as he was too busy fellating David Duke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: You forgot to say convicted rapist. This is fake news. Of course it gets the upvotes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Wiggums said: This is fake news. Of course it gets the upvotes though I'm sorry, do you prefer "sexual assault enthusiast" to not hurt Agent Orange's feelings? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/x-deletes-menacing-tweet-from-gop-congressman-fantasizing-about-murdering-an-immigrant/ar-BB1hDe1b?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=940ecc18857d4f24914fb3ec4f8eb087&ei=36 ........ "Rep. Mike Collins (R-Georgia) quote-tweeted one of his Republican colleagues, Rep. Anthony D'Esposito (R-New York), who was responding to a Fox News video showing undocumented immigrants arrested for assaulting NYPD officers leaving custody. In the video, one of the alleged assailants gave two middle fingers to a Fox News photographer, prompting D'Esposito to tweet, "we feel the same way about you. Holla at the cartels and have them escort you back." In the now-deleted post, Collins wrote "or we could buy him a ticket on Pinochet Air for a free helicopter ride back." Before X/Twitter took action to delete the tweet, Rep. Mike Collins (R-Georgia) drew the scorn of hundreds of people. MSNBC host Chris Hayes tweeted that "sitting members of congress calling for murdering people using the Pinochet regime's preferred method of dropping them out of helicopters is really not great." Huffpost reporter Christopher Mathias contextualized Collins' tweet, saying it was "parroting a meme that’s been popular among white supremacists & neofascists like the Proud Boys for the last 7 or so years." The tweet is a reference to far-right Chilean dictator Agosto Pinochet's reign of terror, in which left-leaning political dissidents were captured, tortured and sometimes murdered. One of the more notable examples is that of musician and activist Victor Jara, who was rounded up by Pinochet's forces and tortured in Chile Stadium in the weeks following his US-backed September 11, 1973 coup that deposed democratically elected president Salvador Allende. CNN reported that Jara's body was found with more than 40 bullet wounds and signs of torture. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Wiggums said: This is fake news. Of course it gets the upvotes though a jury in a civil trial thought he was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Bob Long said: a jury in a civil trial thought he was. He is right tho. there is no criminal conviction. Of course that doesn’t stop one saying that both Joe and Hunter Biden are guilty of crimes currently even tho they have not been convicted either… Edited February 1 by Ronaldoescobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said: He is right tho. there is no criminal conviction. Of course that doesn’t stop one saying that both Joe and Hunter Biden are guilty of crimes currently even tho they have not been convicted either… yup no criminal conviction. Just 12 people who heard enough in court to think he's a rapist. I guess thats a win for @Wiggums? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: yup no criminal conviction. Just 12 people who heard enough in court to think he's a rapist. I guess thats a win for @Wiggums? And another 9 who heard enough to tell him to shut up about it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Heffy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Super19 said: Coming from an agent for Putin. This vermin belongs in Guantanamo Bay. Edited February 1 by King Heffy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Super19 said: this person is a moron. Go get some gazpatcho police to help you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PistolPete13 Posted February 2 Popular Post Share Posted February 2 20 hours ago, AatuD2 said: One of the best speeches of all-time because it foreshadows what is to come for US. People that pretend that eternal wars aren't in US establishment's interests are dummies. Now let's all wave our LGBTQ flags and pat ourselves on the back for being inclusive while the US government bombs another middle eastern country and implements regime changes that result in thousands of deaths. On the other hand, let's call Trump a fascist, racist, and sexist and stay the hell away from him and his non-interventionist politics. It's gonna be bad for the business of bringing war democracy worldwide. 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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