the destroyer of worlds Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: You can't compare Canada and the United States when talking about speakers of the house. They're two totally different roles. But I do agree with you the fact that his own party tossed him out and bragged about wanting to do it a year before an election has to show some sort of dysfunction. As I said previously, if this was in canada this infighting one year before an election that party would be left with likely no chance to form government. I just throw the Canada comparison in. I fully realize that there are differences. That's why I included the Pelosi reference. The Dems had their caucus in order, and she won even with a few Dems not voting for her. She was able to get over the line and survive the full term multiple time. McCarthy couldn't even last the year. Canada just had a Speaker vote and it got over the line today. All to illustrate how dysfunctional the QOP is. Illustrating yet one more reason why they should be no where close to governing power until they get their house in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Salacious Crumb Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: I want more people to pick a 3rd choice. Sadly people are too wrapped up on trying to pwn the other side to even consider 3rd and 4th parties. Robin Williams said voting in America was like walking into a sex shop and trying to decide which dildo you would least like to shove up your ass. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Optimist Prime said: I honestly don't think Trump should ever go to jail, the unfortunate thing is I believe he senses that the entire principle of Democracy also supports his never going to jail and so he has no problem criming away for financial benefit and power gains. I think that is why the trial he was at yesterday is civil and not criminal in nature. they can fine him and dissolve his dealings in New York without jailing him. I fully believe he has been criming in many ways for a very long time. I just don't think a major democracy can be seen jailing a 'political adversary'. Putin will say that the 450 or so of his political prisoners are just like trump is to biden. As cathartic as it would be for me to see Trump fitted for an Orange jumpsuit and driven away in a police van, I would settle for a huge fine in the NY Fraud case and a ban on ever holding public office again, on the Federal and Georgia cases..... However, those concessions would be dependent on a guilty plea and a public admission of guilt. He could then be allowed to retire in disgrace back to Florida and cheat at golf for the rest of his miserable life.... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: As cathartic as it would be for me to see Trump fitted for an Orange jumpsuit and driven away in a police van, I would settle for a huge fine in the NY Fraud case and a ban on ever holding public office again, on the Federal and Georgia cases..... However, those concessions would be dependent on a guilty plea and a public admission of guilt. He could then be allowed to retire in disgrace back to Florida and cheat at golf for the rest of his miserable life.... I'd settle for Lincoln's solution to Jefferson Davis. Just have him escape in exile to somewhere in south America and just wallow in obscurity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, RupertKBD said: As cathartic as it would be for me to see Trump fitted for an Orange jumpsuit and driven away in a police van, I would settle for a huge fine in the NY Fraud case and a ban on ever holding public office again, on the Federal and Georgia cases..... However, those concessions would be dependent on a guilty plea and a public admission of guilt. He could then be allowed to retire in disgrace back to Florida and cheat at golf for the rest of his miserable life.... I prefer an orange jumpsuit for the orange man. Nobody is above the law nor should they be perceived to be. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, DSVII said: I'd settle for Lincoln's solution to Jefferson Davis. Just have him escape in exile to somewhere in south America and just wallow in obscurity. That's more or less what I said... Florida is like South America, but without the culture..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, DSVII said: I'd settle for Lincoln's solution to Jefferson Davis. Just have him escape in exile to somewhere in south America and just wallow in obscurity. He can go live in Riyadh as long as he takes his idiot sons with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 Congressman McCarthy went full scorched earth on Biden and the Dems, even though it was his own Party that removed him. Everyone nonsensical conspiracy theory without any legal evidence, was spouted. Worst Speaker ever. May he burn in hell for being such a power monger that was hoisted on his own petard. (Shoutout to Wetcoaster). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuckle Posted October 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Playoff Beered said: And who benefits from this take? Benefits? Certainly not the people on the tracks. Lol. That's all of us, btw. If you want to get into it (get your anti-depressants ready, friend) the people that benefit by believing the false dichotomy are same people that always benefit-- the corporatocracy, plutocracy (or whatever name we choose to give them these days.) Truth is the Democratic party and Republican party are just the "left" and "right" hands of the capitalist class. (Democrats are not actually leftists, btw.) Pull the lever all you want. It doesn't make a lick of real difference in terms of outcome for the working class underclass, etc. of society. Sure, one party might hate poor people a little less, one party thinks there shouldn't be 5 people that hoard all the wealth but rather 15 where a maybe a few are black, a couple women, maybe even a few that identify as LBGTQ. But neither party challenges the game itself. Both at the behest of the military industrial complex, financial institutions, multinational conglomerates, share underlying values when it comes to Foreign Policy, etc. Too many are talking about so-called 'issues' when they should be primarily talking about the top and bottom of the class pyramid... especially in that growing ayncrap-hellscape known as the United States. But then divide and conquer is a strategy as old as time, and mass media and the education system has a stranglehold on propaganda. So it's not surprising it's not at the forefront of the conversation. The recent rise of populist clown, fascism, white supremacy, and then a pandemic as icing on the cake has certainly helped divert and thwart attention being paid to class conflict. (At least old man Bernie helped get the ball rolling there... as pro capitalist as even he is.) Either way it was back to infighting in full force. False conscious proles busy fighting while the masters go laughing all the way to the bank. But, what else is new, right. Who benefits by this take? Hopefully you and anyone else reading this. 1 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Hi, my name is Jerock Jagoggins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Canuckle said: Both at the behest of the military industrial complex, financial institutions, multinational conglomerates, share underlying values when it comes to Foreign Policy, etc. Except even this Venn Diagram is falling apart somewhat. For example, the "Hostility to Russia" part is no longer a part of the far-right wing of the GOP playbook. That is, if that far-right wing is to be considered as part of the GOP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckle Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 44 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Except even this Venn Diagram is falling apart somewhat. For example, the "Hostility to Russia" part is no longer a part of the far-right wing of the GOP playbook. That is, if that far-right wing is to be considered as part of the GOP. I might say don't get caught up with the details of this meme venn diagram. Its not like this is an exhaustive list by any means. But it does the job of revealing there are far more systemic and deep reaching similarities than anyone tends to talk about. Especially when we consider matters of class, status and power. That's what really matters. Also reminds me of this: 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: She'd be good with the gavel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Maybe electing her will come with benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Maybe electing her will come with benefits? From making fun of Biden riding a bike to making the village bicycle the speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 4, 2023 Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: She'd be good with the gavel Handy even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Aged like milk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 58 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: And for those members who like to golf she could certainly straighten out their 9 irons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted October 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) I have been told that president trump might be open to helping the republican party, at least in the short term." Edited October 4, 2023 by nuckin_futz 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) Thing got very heated on the floor today. https://twitter.com/i/status/1709318532083728747 Edited October 4, 2023 by Rob Eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: I have been told that president trump might be open to helping the republican party, at least in the short term." If he became Speaker,.double or triple the security for Joe and Kamala. Joe dies, Kamala becomes POTUS. She gets taken out, Speaker of the House is next up. Boom, President TRUMP 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: If he became Speaker,.double or triple the security for Joe and Kamala. Joe dies, Kamala becomes POTUS. She gets taken out, Speaker of the House is next up. Boom, President TRUMP Edited October 4, 2023 by nuckin_futz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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