bishopshodan Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 44 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: This is going to keep the MAGA and Republican base fired up to go to the polls in November... Would have been interesting had Trump arrived there during the raid and insisted on going in and disrupting it. Both the Secret Service and the FBI could have ended up calling in more agents for a good old fashioned faceoff. FBI Was Prepared to Use 'Deadly Force' at Mar-a-Lago Raid https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fbi-classified-documents-deadly-force-1903247 Wouldnt the FBI be prepared to use deadly force everytime they are on duty? I'm just a Correctional Officer and our 'Use of Force wheel' goes all the way to lethal. Its based on a progressive escalation/de-escalation vs response from the idividual. Basically, you're going to comply, you have no choice. Use of force (even lethal) is what we allow, in the right circumstances, those that enforce the law to apply. Obviously. I would assume those in high level law enforcement would always be prepared to 'shoot to kill' if needed. Like the show of force at PDIddy's house. All the big toys and armour there, ready to be used. They were there to get what they wanted and were prepared to use what ever they needed to aquire it. Maybe it will keep the MAGA folk riled. But, then again those people are a few cards short of a full deck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Wouldnt the FBI be prepared to use deadly force everytime they are on duty? I'm just a Correctional Officer and our 'Use of Force wheel' goes all the way to lethal. Its based on a progressive escalation/de-escalation vs response from the idividual. Basically, you're going to comply, you have no choice. Use of force (even lethal) is what we allow, in the right circumstances, those that enforce the law to apply. Obviously. That part confuses me too. I wonder if that was just a boiler plate inclusion to warrant or if Garland was clearing the deck to allow the FBI to take on the Secret Service if Trump were to come back to Mar-A-Lago. I've never been raided by law enforcement so I have no experience as to what's normally written on those documents. Quote I would assume those in high level law enforcement would always be prepared to 'shoot to kill' if needed. Like the show of force at PDIddy's house. All the big toys and armour there, ready to be used. They were there to get what they wanted and were prepared to use what ever they needed to aquire it. Yeah, but to me, the inclusion of that language on a raid of a clubhouse golf course for rich people is weird. Unless of course, it's just a boiler plate addition on those kind of documents. Then, it makes perfect sense that it's there. Quote Maybe it will keep the MAGA folk riled. But, then again those people are a few cards short of a full deck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 32 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Wouldnt the FBI be prepared to use deadly force everytime they are on duty? I'm just a Correctional Officer and our 'Use of Force wheel' goes all the way to lethal. Its based on a progressive escalation/de-escalation vs response from the idividual. Basically, you're going to comply, you have no choice. Use of force (even lethal) is what we allow, in the right circumstances, those that enforce the law to apply. Obviously. I would assume those in high level law enforcement would always be prepared to 'shoot to kill' if needed. Like the show of force at PDIddy's house. All the big toys and armour there, ready to be used. They were there to get what they wanted and were prepared to use what ever they needed to aquire it. Maybe it will keep the MAGA folk riled. But, then again those people are a few cards short of a full deck. ‘Just’ a Corrections Officer?? My good sir, you are part of a noble and a highly valued and respected public servant profession. Never say ‘just’. Much respect! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 32 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: That part confuses me too. I wonder if that was just a boiler plate inclusion to warrant or if Garland was clearing the deck to allow the FBI to take on the Secret Service if Trump were to come back to Mar-A-Lago. I've never been raided by law enforcement so I have no experience as to what's normally written on those documents. Yeah, but to me, the inclusion of that language on a raid of a clubhouse golf course for rich people is weird. Unless of course, it's just a boiler plate addition on those kind of documents. Then, it makes perfect sense that it's there. I just figured, if the FBI is coming because they think you have important classified docs, anyone that would get in the way of that could be seen as a threat to national security. So of course they should be ready to use deadly force if needed. 20 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: ‘Just’ a Corrections Officer?? My good sir, you are part of a noble and a highly valued and respected public servant profession. Never say ‘just’. Much respect! Thanks my man. That means a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 39 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: ‘Just’ a Corrections Officer?? My good sir, you are part of a noble and a highly valued and respected public servant profession. Never say ‘just’. Much respect! Damn straight. In fact, Bishop is my 4th most favorite Corrections Officer.....right after the three Jims from Shoresy: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Trump Accused of ‘Echoing Nazi Germany’ After Campaign Ad Features Text About ‘Creation of a Unified Reich’ https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-accused-of-echoing-nazi-germany-after-campaign-ad-features-text-about-creation-of-a-unified-reich/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Arrogant Worms Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Mar-a-Lago hires 136 new foreign workers as Trump seeks immigration crackdown https://www.rawstory.com/trump-foreign-workers/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Trump Media shares keep tumbling after reporting staggering first-quarter losses Trump Media shares continued tumbling a day after the former president's tech company reported a net loss of $327.6 million on just $770,500 in revenue in the first quarter of 2024. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-media-value/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 14 hours ago, bishopshodan said: I just figured, if the FBI is coming because they think you have important classified docs, anyone that would get in the way of that could be seen as a threat to national security. So of course they should be ready to use deadly force if needed. It certainly wasn't included because they were worried about an obese elderly man with funky hair going Super Saiyan and stopping them. The rich people will destroy you with lawyers before they ever think of pulling out a weapon. That just leaves 2 scenarios barring that being a normal add-on to these papers: 1. The Secret Service 2. MAGA hearing about it and a bunch of idiots showing up and trying to bum rush into Mar-a-Lago. Then the FBI could legally get some moving target practice in a game of Whack-A-Moron. Edited May 22 by Sabrefan1 Grammar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Donald should get credit for "Operation Warp Speed" (which I'll admit I poked fun at, at the time)...course he'll never brag about it on the campaign trail else lose votes to whacko anti-vaxxer RKF Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Trump Media shares keep tumbling after reporting staggering first-quarter losses Trump Media shares continued tumbling a day after the former president's tech company reported a net loss of $327.6 million on just $770,500 in revenue in the first quarter of 2024. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-media-value/ Almost as bad as that Mudk Tesla fiasco. Which company dies first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 20 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Donald should get credit for "Operation Warp Speed" (which I'll admit I poked fun at, at the time)...course he'll never brag about it on the campaign trail else lose votes to whacko anti-vaxxer RKF Jr. He's tried to talk about vaccines at rallies. He got booed. Even when he was on stage with Papa Bear Bill O'Reilly. They both admitted they were boosted and got booed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Tell us again that TRUMP is innocent and is being wrongly persecuted. https://www.axios.com/2024/05/21/trumps-classified-documents-bedroom-mar-a-lago Trump's attorneys found classified docs in his bedroom months after raid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Yet another case of the GOP - "every accussation is a confession" Edited May 22 by NewbieCanuckFan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 12 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Donald should get credit for "Operation Warp Speed" (which I'll admit I poked fun at, at the time)...course he'll never brag about it on the campaign trail else lose votes to whacko anti-vaxxer RKF Jr. Some, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 17 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Donald should get credit for "Operation Warp Speed" (which I'll admit I poked fun at, at the time)...course he'll never brag about it on the campaign trail else lose votes to whacko anti-vaxxer RKF Jr. 4 hours ago, Bob Long said: Some, yes. Never liked the "Warp Speed" moniker.... IMO, if you're going with a Science Fiction term that has no actual basis in Science, you should go for it.... It should have been "Operation Ludicrous Speed".....(put in italics, because that looks faster) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 7 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Never liked the "Warp Speed" moniker.... IMO, if you're going with a Science Fiction term that has no actual basis in Science, you should go for it.... It should have been "Operation Ludicrous Speed".....(put in italics, because that looks faster) Need to be careful with that speed stuff, you could end up going plaid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, RupertKBD said: Never liked the "Warp Speed" moniker.... IMO, if you're going with a Science Fiction term that has no actual basis in Science, you should go for it.... It should have been "Operation Ludicrous Speed".....(put in italics, because that looks faster) Hey Trump has been wrong on many many things but that did actually help a bit. His idea to turn gm into a ventilator factory was bat shit tho. Edited May 22 by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Hey Trump has been wrong on many many things but that did actually help a bit. His idea to turn gm into a ventilator factory was bat shit tho. Maybe one of the only benefits of having an obese president whose exercise regimen consists of golf with the aid of a cart and diet consists of McDonald's. He was definitely part of the most vulnerable group. Edited May 22 by King Heffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Maybe one of the only benefits of having an obese president whose exercise regimen consists of golf with the aid of a cart and diet consists of McDonald's. He was definitely part of the most vulnerable group. Saved his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 'My goodness!' Fact-checker shocked as Trump spiels 'jabberwocky' in Nevada interview https://www.rawstory.com/trump-nevada-lis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Justice Alito Caught with Another Flag Linked to Jan. 6 After Defending Upside-Down U.S. Flag https://www.mediaite.com/politics/justice-alito-caught-with-another-flag-linked-to-jan-6-after-defending-upside-down-u-s-flag/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gurn Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/lauren-boebert-caught-in-a-lie-after-hyping-bridge-project-she-voted-against-funding/ar-BB1mSz6W?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=5de4871674dc4231a1db2469d4431c52&ei=72 " Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) took to social media Wednesday to boast about a bridge project in her area, and it didn't go well. "Great meeting with Glenwood Springs City Councilor and former Mayor Jonathan Godes," Boebert posted on X. "We have secured over $51.4 million for the South Bridge. Was thrilled to hear about nearly $30 million in costs savings in addition and that my support has helped make this project a reality." The far-right congresswoman, who is currently trying to jump ship to a more conservative congressional district following a series of scandals that endangered her in her current seat, was quickly called out by her fellow lawmaker, Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO). "Hey Colorado!! @RepBoebert actually voted against this funding. Now she's trying to take credit! This is why people call DC a swamp ..." wrote Crow. He is correct, as the funding comes from the bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, a signature program of the Biden administration that Boebert voted against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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