Satchmo Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Just now, bolt said: If Biden were an actual leader and still awake at 7:00 PM on a Saturday night -- he would immediately hold a live news conference and tell his people this is not the way. He's awake and heard of this as he was leaving a church. Lot's of condemnation for this event coming from the Dem side of the aisle (should you care to look) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 1 minute ago, Satchmo said: He's awake and heard of this as he was leaving a church. Lot's of condemnation for this event coming from the Dem side of the aisle (should you care to look) Goes against the agenda he's desperately trying to push so he won't. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 3 minutes ago, Pears said: "Political violence is never the answer" - same people who have no problems with trump threatening political opponents and women's rights Gretchen Whitmer says hi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 5 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Yet no one else is saying that and the information is coming from a local DA who seemingly was a rally attendant. CNN says only: Shooter at Trump rally is "neutralized," sources say From CNN’s Hannah Rabinowitz, Holmes Lybrand, Zachary Cohen, Kristen Holmes, and Phil Mattingly A shooter at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania has been “neutralized,” according to multiple law enforcement sources. usually when teams i was a member of neutralized say chinese honkers union members, it meant they no longer existed, but I have no idea what is up, not worth fighting about gossip until its official though right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 3 minutes ago, Petey O said: People are tiring of the liberal social order. This sort of escalation pretty much puts it into its death throes. The world is going to change pretty quickly now. This is one of those events that shift the political and social climate. 4 statements with little or no real connection between them. Your high school teacher would give you a low mark on that quartet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey O Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: You mean like in the UK where the Conservatives just lost in a landslide? The "conservatives" aren't even right wing in the UK. They're centre-right at most. The Conservatives in Canada are only really economically right wing at this point. The "conservatives" in France had to form a coalition with the socialists to prevent National Rally from winning, and there are nationalist governments popping up around the world. I'm not talking about conservativism. I'm talking about nationalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 1 minute ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Gretchen Whitmer says hi. She also says: “There is no place for political violence in this country, period,” Whitmer wrote in a social media post. “This is not how we resolve our differences.” “I am horrified to learn of this news, and we will be following the situation closely. I am grateful for those in law enforcement who stepped in immediately,” 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 1 minute ago, Petey O said: The "conservatives" aren't even right wing in the UK. They're centre-right at most. The Conservatives in Canada are only really economically right wing at this point. The "conservatives" in France had to form a coalition with the socialists to prevent National Rally from winning, and there are nationalist governments popping up around the world. I'm not talking about conservativism. I'm talking about nationalism. So if everyone on the left voted for the one person, and everyone on the right voted for one person, the left wins? Thanks for clearing that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 1 minute ago, Smashian Kassian said: I disagree completely with this part, its a long culmination of cultures that do not agree on how they want to live having to compete in perpetuity for power over the other, and of course they've grown to despise each other - naturally. And far further along the conclusion of that than we were in the 19th century, especially considering the Gov't has only grown bigger & bigger. The 'regulation' you describe would be the gov't controlling the media, which they've already done with news organizations & tried to do with social media actually, and isn't desirable at all in a free society imo. I'm not saying its as easy as removing 1 puzzle piece from the other, but the current situation is untenable. And I disagree with you on the cultures. America has always been a melting pot of cultures that while may not get along, have worked together to make that nation the superpower it is today. Before Newt Gingrich, Democrats and Republicans used to work together in DC, even before that, they worked together in the trenches in WW2. That change in the political culture, plus. This plus the stripping of the Fairness doctrine under Reagan, which allowed networks like Fox and OAN to grow as 'entertainment' hubs, and Section 230 which allows Facebook and Google to absolve themselves of all responsibility for all the propaganda and harm that goes through their networks. It's not about control, but giving incentives for the corporations to act in ways that don't harm the nation's interests. The pieces are already entrenched of course, like you said, but it isn't beneficial to just call it quits and dismantle America. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 4 minutes ago, Petey O said: The "conservatives" aren't even right wing in the UK. They're centre-right at most. The Conservatives in Canada are only really economically right wing at this point. The "conservatives" in France had to form a coalition with the socialists to prevent National Rally from winning, and there are nationalist governments popping up around the world. I'm not talking about conservativism. I'm talking about nationalism. Nationalism is not exactly a good thing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaimito Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Just now, Warhippy said: Nationalism is not exactly a good thing Brought us WWII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Warhippy said: Nationalism is not exactly a good thing Brought us WWII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey O Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: So if everyone on the left voted for the one person, and everyone on the right voted for one person, the left wins? Thanks for clearing that up. You understand that you only need about 25% of the population's support for a critical mass, right? And only about 3.5-5% have to be radical. The world is changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Well, whatever fills your boots. I think it's stupid but you like it. Life's a rich tapestry. I just don't see another solution that's peaceful & desirable for both. The toothpaste isn't going back in the tube. I just don't want to see the political violence escalate now that its on the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Jaimito said: The voice of reason vs I don't have a reasonable response or statement to post from the GOP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghostsof1915 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Jaimito said: Brought us WWII And WWI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 This is scary crap. Even worse, it could spark retaliation attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 two stabbings in South Central LA, shooting in Palmdale California, wife murdered by husband in Sacramento, a shooting and a stabbing in Denver. Three different shootings in Texas. Two shootings in Florida. Shooting in Atlanta. Driveby shooting in Kansas. 3 shootings in Iowa, 3 shootings in Minneapolis, 2 shootings in Kentucky, 7 shootings in Chicago. 2 shootings in Ohio. 3 shootings in Washington D.C. A shooting in Pittsburgh. And 1 shooting in Connecticut. AND a shooting at the Trump Rally in Pennsylvania as well. ALL THIS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS IN THE MAINLAND USA. 36 events that ended in murder in the last 24 hours: and this is every single day in America. My word what a shit show. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Remember when Nancy Pelosi's husband took a hammer to the skull and everyone in the right called for an end to violence. Yeah, me neither 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey O Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Also, there's a trend in the last number of years of nationalist leaders having attempts on their lives: 1 - Bolsonaro: Stabbed, put in serious condition. 2 - Fico: Shot at, barely survived. 3 - Trump: Shot at, grazed. Violence is pretty much inevitable from the right. The pressure cooker is boiling. This isn't just relevant for the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Heretic said: This is scary crap. Even worse, it could spark retaliation attempts. Yep, how many Kyle Rittenhouses are coming out of this one? Nothing good will come from this. As the saying goings, this is going to feel like one of those weeks where years and decades happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Democrats will play up Jan 6 and now the Republicans will play up July 13. Nothing good will come of this. Just more division and anger leading to who knows what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Remember when Nancy Pelosi's husband took a hammer to the skull and everyone in the right called for an end to violence. Yeah, me neither I really wish people would cut the us vs them crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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